Hi everyone, this is my first topic so Im sorry if its in the wrong section. I recently bought 06 plate fabia VRS and Im more than happy with the car so far . So I took it for a dyno run to see if its been remapped in the past and the print out was at 151bhp so it looks like yes. My question is, why there is no black smoke from exhaust? And I mean no smoke at all but lots of power. Even under load or when first starting car in the morning?? Car is at 140k with egr blanked with plates. Any ideas? 

 

By the way, I have tried search function but only found one topic that was not very useful. 

Edited 21 January, 201610 yr by pat101

So, you're posting to ask why there's nothing wrong with your car? Are you a gloater?

Is it a BLT engine code? I know a lot of them made around 150hp from the factory despite the quoted 130hp power figure

Andy

Is it a BLT engine code? I know a lot of them made around 150hp from the factory despite the quoted 130hp power figure

Andy

06 plate so possibly? When was the change over?

So, you're posting to ask why there's nothing wrong with your car? Are you a gloater?

Putting the rest of us to shame.

To the OP:

Don't worry about it not producing smoke! It will hopefully of been well looking after, regularly serviced and oil changed, warmed up and cooled down properly and only used for long distance journeys.

JRJG

So, you're posting to ask why there's nothing wrong with your car? Are you a gloater?

I know that lack of smoke is a good sign but it just seems strange that high mileage diesel doesn't smoke lol

 

Is it a BLT engine code? I know a lot of them made around 150hp from the factory despite the quoted 130hp power figure

Andy

Yes it is BLT engine. Well thats very interesting ;o such a big difference from what factory is stating Good for owners then. Thanks for the answer  

06 plate so possibly? When was the change over?

Putting the rest of us to shame.

To the OP:

Don't worry about it not producing smoke! It will hopefully of been well looking after, regularly serviced and oil changed, warmed up and cooled down properly and only used for long distance journeys.

JRJG

 

So looks like I got my self a decent car then  

 

Thanks!

<cough> so it's one of them VW "cheat" vehicles then.

 

Only produces smoke when no one is looking.

<cough> so it's one of them VW "cheat" vehicles then.

Only produces smoke when no one is looking.

Ahahahahaa [emoji23] I like this one! Lol

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Has it got tinted windows?

These hide smoke very well from inside the car........

Probably got a side exit exhaust down the front somewhere

Edited 22 January, 201610 yr by hutchysrs50

140k high mileage? Nah; twice that, maybe.

140k high mileage? Nah; twice that, maybe.

Yeah true, especially with fsh ;d

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Has it got tinted windows?

These hide smoke very well from inside the car........

Ahahaa ,no tinted windows [emoji12]

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High mileage don't always = smoke. 

 

I find with diesels you need to drive them hard a few times a week to blow the crap out. Otherwise over time they just get so clogged up! It's probably why rep mobiles that spend their lives up and down the motorways not really seeing any sort of revs are usually very badly clogged and smoke a lot. 

 

Mine never used to smoke either and that made good power, but it was half the mileage lol. Mileage don't matter on these, most consider 'high mileage' to be like 180-200k plus also lol. Think there's a taxi round near me with 300k on the clock with a PD130 in it and it's still going! Don't sound too healthy mind but it works and pulls ok. 

Mine seems pretty clean at 94k but to be honest I'd be very disappointed if it wasn't. As mentioned on each run I make sure I give it a few blasts of wide open throttle (when warm) and also hold 2.5-3k rpm for a while to keep it clean as possible. Always take it easy as I approach the house to to let things chill out a bit. I don't drive it hard as such, bit too old for that now, just treat it with respect not forgetting that to get the best out of these you have to give them a blart and clock up some mileage. Balance fun with preservation with regular servicing and it should keep running pretty clean until something goes wrong.

Thanks guys for replys and your views even on such silly question lol

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Mine seems pretty clean at 94k but to be honest I'd be very disappointed if it wasn't. As mentioned on each run I make sure I give it a few blasts of wide open throttle (when warm) and also hold 2.5-3k rpm for a while to keep it clean as possible. Always take it easy as I approach the house to to let things chill out a bit. I don't drive it hard as such, bit too old for that now, just treat it with respect not forgetting that to get the best out of these you have to give them a blart and clock up some mileage. Balance fun with preservation with regular servicing and it should keep running pretty clean until something goes wrong.

 

mine has a similar mileage to yours, recently moved house and jobs now commute about 60 miles a day along motorway and heavy city traffic. again second to your advice treat it with respect make sure its warmed up nicly before putting your foot down and giving a generous amount of throttle on the motorway helps to flush out any stored carbon deposits in the exhaust. I also try to run through some injector cleaner every couple of months it defiantly helps.

Edited 2 February, 201610 yr by MattyVRS64

I use millers regularly, car definitely runs quieter and smoother than when I got it after a good few tanks.

As has already been mentioned, a PD130 will always smoke. It's the result of an excess of fuel in the cylinders and it's a normal part of the PD130 fuel mapping. That's why badly remapped cars smoke a lot. They just add fuel without adding extra air at the same time. That's why the resistor trick works, it fools the car into thinking there is more air than there is, so it adds moe diesel. And hence makes more smoke.

That will not change with any mileage or any special driving styles.

Black smoke is fine. No smoke, no poke as the stickers say. Of course, a LOT of black smoke could indicate a blown turbo, bad injectors etc. but in general a bit of black smoke is fine.

Blue smoke IS a sign of engine wear and you shouldn't see blue smoke on a PD130 because it means you're burning bricating oil from somewhere. That's bad. The 300,000 mile PD130s often make blue smoke because there is excessive wear inside the engine.

White smoke is also bad. It means you're either burning coolant or just whacking neat diesel into the exhaust through the engine. That's VERY bad.

It's probably why rep mobiles that spend their lives up and down the motorways not really seeing any sort of revs are usually very badly clogged and smoke a lot.

You've obviously never been a sales rep! Time in the car is dead time so you need to get to the next appointment as quickly as possible. And you have to get to the next appointment to make the sale and get the bonus, so a reliable car is essential. Generally,m reps love their cars. I'd far rather have an ex-repmobile than an ex-hire car where no-one looks after it.

And given that it's been 7 or 8 years since you needed a DPF on a diesel, most reps are on their second or third completely smoke-free car by now.

I use millers regularly, car definitely runs quieter and smoother than when I got it after a good few tanks.

I've got some stuff I add regularly. It's called Seebo. They don't actually make any claims or it but it definitely helps with power, engine responsiveness and economy. It's made by an Australian company called P.L.A. You should try it. I bet it's every bit as good as Mllers.

I've got some stuff I add regularly. It's called Seebo. They don't actually make any claims or it but it definitely helps with power, engine responsiveness and economy. It's made by an Australian company called P.L.A. You should try it. I bet it's every bit as good as Mllers.

Cheers, is it cheaper?

I've got some stuff I add regularly. It's called Seebo. They don't actually make any claims or it but it definitely helps with power, engine responsiveness and economy. It's made by an Australian company called P.L.A. You should try it. I bet it's every bit as good as Mllers.

Both will be 2-EHN that they charge you to thin down with a bulking agent, meaning that the dosing quantity has to be higher - hence the cost per tankfull is considerably higher.

I think you really have to try it to get the full P.L.A. Seebo effect!

Perish the thought that that or anything else might actually improve something in any way, shape or form. I'm in tune enough with my car to know when it's consistently quieter at least. I'm not naive enough to think it has given any power gains, nor did I expect it to. Suppose you'll be recommending supermarket fuel next, don't think I'd fall for that one either