Jabbasport cone in the box for me when I can be bothered to change it

Quite a few people have run the Pipercross panel and suffered turbo failure from the filter not being filter out small debris. Lots of people now run the s2000 paper cone filter.

Piper cross panel just came last in the competition for which route I'll take then!

I will have a look into s2000 filters, how do you go about plugging the sensor in?

JRJG

Piper cross panel just came last in the competition for which route I'll take then!

I will have a look into s2000 filters, how do you go about plugging the sensor in?

JRJG

 

the MAF stays where it is (although i would recommend a darskide custom alloy intake and silicone, as the standard one does not fit too well with a GTB which needs the silicone reducer, which removes the MAF altogether- it will most likely get mapped out anyway). I think someone is seriously over-thinking this GTB conversion......................................................

Edited 1 June, 201610 yr by Stuart27183

the MAF stays where it is (although i would recommend a darskide custom alloy intake and silicone, as the standard one does not fit too well with a GTB which needs the silicone reducer, which removes the MAF altogether- it will most likely get mapped out anyway). I think someone is seriously over-thinking this GTB conversion......................................................

Someone definitely is over thinking the turbo conversion. I just want to get everything done and dusted in one go. Then I'm not worrying about anything or coming back to do anything else afterwards. I have got a silicone reducer on the new gtb already supplied by Xman. So that's one less thing to worry about.

JRJG

Someone definitely is over thinking the turbo conversion. I just want to get everything done and dusted in one go. Then I'm not worrying about anything or coming back to do anything else afterwards. I have got a silicone reducer on the new gtb already supplied by Xman. So that's one less thing to worry about.

JRJG

 

I went through the whole lot so many times also as i needed to get the conversion right first time. Don't hesitate to keep asking more questions when you fit it all - and as said before - Kris Mason for mapping (link in my sig)..................................................

I went through the whole lot so many times also as i needed to get the conversion right first time. Don't hesitate to keep asking more questions when you fit it all - and as said before - Kris Mason for mapping (link in my sig)..................................................

So you know the meticulous planning that I'm going through then! It just means things run that bit smoother, gives me more time to sort 'that' bolt that threads, or that seized so and so.

Just been looking through your project to see what you used as a support / bracket for your turbo, then saw a pic of a tubular manifold... Doh!

Any suggestions as to what to use for a makeshift turbo support? It's a heavy little lump to be sitting on the stock manifold. I have bought a small wall retainer, about 3mm thick, with a 90 bend on it, that will be cut to whatever length we require. Just wondering what else I could buy should that prove to be no good. I'd rather buy extras just in case.

JRJG

So you know the meticulous planning that I'm going through then! It just means things run that bit smoother, gives me more time to sort 'that' bolt that threads, or that seized so and so.

Just been looking through your project to see what you used as a support / bracket for your turbo, then saw a pic of a tubular manifold... Doh!

Any suggestions as to what to use for a makeshift turbo support? It's a heavy little lump to be sitting on the stock manifold. I have bought a small wall retainer, about 3mm thick, with a 90 bend on it, that will be cut to whatever length we require. Just wondering what else I could buy should that prove to be no good. I'd rather buy extras just in case.

JRJG

 

I would'nt worry about a support - remember there is a huge exhaust system attached to it aswel - the manifold is'nt doing all of the supporting..........................

I would have to disagree that a support bracket is not needed but this is the good thing with messing with cars...we can all do it our own way.

As the standard Turbo has a support bracket, the gtb has threaded holes for a support bracket and after seeing how heavy the gtb Turbo is I would not want it only hanging off the exhaust manifold with no additional support.

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It takes 5 minutes to cut a small L bracket, that will do perfectly fine.

What have people done to get the intake pipe to fit back into it's original position?

The reducer I have isn't long enough so the intake pipe doesn't come high enough back up, the breather pipe just about fits back on. But the brackets are a good inch off yet. The silicone reducer pipe is already being pulled upwards , any further and it'll slip off no doubt.

Any ideas!?

I cut mine down as small as i could get away with on both sides of the reducer and managed to get the very top bolt in place (the one ontop of the inlet manifold) but couldnt get the side one on. I was running a catch can also so didnt need to worry about the breather pipe.

Edited 4 June, 201610 yr by hutchysrs50

Same as hutchy, I cut the silicon adapter pipe to as narrow as I could get away with, then bending the bracket I could get the top bolt in, for the side mounting I made up a little extension bracket so that it was also bolted on.

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I cut mine down as small as i could get away with on both sides of the reducer and managed to get the very top bolt in place (the one ontop of the inlet manifold) but couldnt get the side one on. I was running a catch can also so didnt need to worry about the breather pipe.

I didn't have any spare to cut down, we wanted to leave a slither either side of the clamps in order for them to grip properly. But there wasn't enough spare to pull the inlet pipe up enough, we lifted it enough to get the breather pipe in, but neither of the bolts are in. The reducer is swan necking slightly, I am going to get a longer piece next week as I'm not happy leaving the inlet manifold as it is. And I will get a swan neck reducer piece too to see if we can get it back into it's original position. I want those two bolts back in ideally.

 

Same as hutchy, I cut the silicon adapter pipe to as narrow as I could get away with, then bending the bracket I could get the top bolt in, for the side mounting I made up a little extension bracket so that it was also bolted on.

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We could of bent the bracket on the inlet pipe itself but it would not of sat flush as it should of done, any bolt would of been at 45 degrees in the bolt holes which I wouldn't want to be honest. The extension bracket sounds like  a good way around it though.

I will put some pictures up to show you both shortly.

My next question to you all is how did you go on with the Oil Return pipe? Obviously the standard one is not long enough, only just not long enough though!

I bought a new oil return pipe from Darkside, cost me the best part of £50 and it is no good. It was far too long. The fittings were fine but there was no way of fitting it without ending up with a nasty kink in the pipe, it is perhaps a 4-5 inch length with a 90 degree elbow in it, the Darkside piece was about 12 inch. I am not happy with our finished result oil return pipe, so I will be sourcing something different for that too.

JRJG

Initially I thought the top bracket would never bend to the correct shape to get it sitting flush but after a bit of messing around I could get it to align ok.

 

The oil feed and return pipes I got with the profi diesel parts actually fitted perfectly (unlike some of the other parts) so cannot help you with that one.

I didn't have any spare to cut down, we wanted to leave a slither either side of the clamps in order for them to grip properly. But there wasn't enough spare to pull the inlet pipe up enough, we lifted it enough to get the breather pipe in, but neither of the bolts are in. The reducer is swan necking slightly, I am going to get a longer piece next week as I'm not happy leaving the inlet manifold as it is. And I will get a swan neck reducer piece too to see if we can get it back into it's original position. I want those two bolts back in ideally.

We could of bent the bracket on the inlet pipe itself but it would not of sat flush as it should of done, any bolt would of been at 45 degrees in the bolt holes which I wouldn't want to be honest. The extension bracket sounds like a good way around it though.

I will put some pictures up to show you both shortly.

My next question to you all is how did you go on with the Oil Return pipe? Obviously the standard one is not long enough, only just not long enough though!

I bought a new oil return pipe from Darkside, cost me the best part of £50 and it is no good. It was far too long. The fittings were fine but there was no way of fitting it without ending up with a nasty kink in the pipe, it is perhaps a 4-5 inch length with a 90 degree elbow in it, the Darkside piece was about 12 inch. I am not happy with our finished result oil return pipe, so I will be sourcing something different for that too.

JRJG

Im having the same oil return nightmare today went to fit a better darkside one but had to cut it down so much it kinked too much and no i have oil in the exhaust, made a new one out of nore flexible rubber hose and its fine now spent all day on it!

Im having the same oil return nightmare today went to fit a better darkside one but had to cut it down so much it kinked too much and no i have oil in the exhaust, made a new one out of nore flexible rubber hose and its fine now spent all day on it!

Yes we came to the same conclusion, we ended up chopping up the old return pipe and the new one, and making a hybrid of the two, still not happy with it though, going to a hydraulic specialists that sell all kinds of pipes/fasteners etx to see what I can get made up. The original one was a much better design, with just a short metal flexi pipe. Just a shame it is too short :/

JRJG

Im having the same oil return nightmare today went to fit a better darkside one but had to cut it down so much it kinked too much and no i have oil in the exhaust, made a new one out of nore flexible rubber hose and its fine now spent all day on it!

May I ask what sort of hose you used?

I've been to the hydraulic place and he immediately said he didn't have anything to fit the turbo end, the auto style two bolt fitment. I am going to a turbo stockist tomorrow, they said they have a box of odds and ends that I'm welcome to root through. Hopefully there will be something along the lines to what I need. If not I will have to find some more flexible hose. But ideally I want a solid elbow. So there can't be any kinks.

JRJG

just cut the standard return up and use 12mm ID rubber hose from ebay - then used angle grinder to cut off the angles bit of the bottom fitting so almost have a horizontal bit coming out and just fuel line clips on either end. No kinks now!