Our Yeti (150Diesel 4x4 SE manual) owned from new is coming up to 6 years old and has 44K on the clock.  So far no problems at all apart from the poorly designed rear discs that have had to be replaced due to rust; No regeneration problems. Needing new set of tyres shortly. Annual mileage now is approx 9Kpa but with a good mix of short trips and regular trips from 8-220 miles.

 

Do we keep the present car for a few more years?  Or change for a new either a 150ps diesel SEL 4x4 or maybe a 140 tsi petrol L&K 4x4.  Really am not sure at all.  Some concern at the EGR problems reported on this forum (although our garage reckons these are very few and far between and mainly due to short runs) plus the potential for additional tax and restrictions on diesels by the 'green' brigade.

 

Any advice?

Depends if you have a spare £16K.

Yes, then swap. No, keep going.

Mines done 51k now and only offered £8K in p/x.

I'd have to fund £20K, after L&K-4x4-dsg etc.

Looks like a few more years yet for me with this one.

I'd stay with diesel, but that's personal choice.

Money no problem. Similar trade in for mine. Always had diesels but maybe now with their complexity and future taxation....?

The new EU6 2.0tdi 150 is a much better engine than the old 140 or 170, I'd go for a test drive and see what you think, but have a drive of the new 1.4tsi 150bhp too as with 9k a year mileage it may be better suited.

The new 1.4tsi is 150PS not 140 iirc?

Our Yeti (150Diesel 4x4 SE manual) owned from new is coming up to 6 years old and has 44K on the clock. So far no problems at all apart from the poorly designed rear discs that have had to be replaced due to rust; No regeneration problems. Needing new set of tyres shortly. Annual mileage now is approx 9Kpa but with a good mix of short trips and regular trips from 8-220 miles.

Do we keep the present car for a few more years? Or change for a new either a 150ps diesel SEL 4x4 or maybe a 140 tsi petrol L&K 4x4. Really am not sure at all. Some concern at the EGR problems reported on this forum (although our garage reckons these are very few and far between and mainly due to short runs) plus the potential for additional tax and restrictions on diesels by the 'green' brigade.

Any advice?

Look at the other thread Yeti offers? that is also running.

You need to balance the cost of repairs, servicing, need to get an MOT, fall in value each month, breakdown cover, annual tax replacing tyres, belts etc which is averaging well over £100 per month, probably nearer double that ....

versus those deals averaging £177 per month over 2 years which include warranty, tax and breakdown, and probably only require one minor service in the 2 years,

Edited 9 July, 201610 yr by SurreyJohn

In my opinion, and now owning a 1.4 TSI 150 4x4 (coming from a 110 TDI 2x4) the 1.4 TSI is an excellent choice if you only do 9k a year. 'Real world' it will feel slightly slower than your current car (not much quicker than our 110) but so much quieter. Love the L&K kit too (although they needn't have bothered with the Park Assist!).

The financial justification for a new car is more stark these days. If you can afford the outlay great - running an older car these days can prove expensive if you are unlucky (as well as not being so 'shiney'), but clearly the cost will still be less. The trouble is, 1.4 TSI Yeti demonstrators are non existent so you have to take a bit of a punt. Ask your dealer if they have a 1.4 Octy or Superb to try. That's what I did and it sold me on the engine (but I do regret it isn't available as a SE L DSG).

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The new EU6 2.0tdi 150 is a much better engine than the old 140 or 170, I'd go for a test drive and see what you think, but have a drive of the new 1.4tsi 150bhp too as with 9k a year mileage it may be better suited.

Just noticed my thread says we have a 150 tdi - of course it should read 140!! So the new EU6 150 is better than the 140 in what respect - still a complex motor to cope with emissions? I'm just wondering about the reliability/longevity with so much added emissions kit.

In my opinion, and now owning a 1.4 TSI 150 4x4 (coming from a 110 TDI 2x4) the 1.4 TSI is an excellent choice if you only do 9k a year. 'Real world' it will feel slightly slower than your current car (not much quicker than our 110) but so much quieter. Love the L&K kit too (although they needn't have bothered with the Park Assist!).

The financial justification for a new car is more stark these days. If you can afford the outlay great - running an older car these days can prove expensive if you are unlucky (as well as not being so 'shiney'), but clearly the cost will still be less. The trouble is, 1.4 TSI Yeti demonstrators are non existent so you have to take a bit of a punt. Ask your dealer if they have a 1.4 Octy or Superb to try. That's what I did and it sold me on the engine (but I do regret it isn't available as a SE L DSG).

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I will have to try the tsi; as you say they are few and far between. We are so used the the excellent pickup and acceleration of our 140tdi. Would have another tdi if one could count on the government not starting imposing penalties for diesel engines.

I bought another diesel even though my annual mileage doesn't really justify it.

Latest engines are more complex in that they have Adblue with the associated injection system and sensors.

As discussed on other threads I don't think any new diesel is a good long term keeper anymore. I shall probably keep mine for three, maybe four years and hope there is a petrol engine and trim spec I want.

I think the anti-diesel lobby have their sights set on pre Euro 6, although clearly all diesels are being tarred with the same brush. A 150 TDI SE L with nav would have cost me £1500 more than my 1.4 L&K once the respective discounts and incentives were applied.

That made my mind up for me, although the technology of the latest diesels are now largely able to cope with the low mileage problems of the past. The 1.4 is torquey and quick, if still a little thirsty for motorway use. Also, I'm still becoming accustomed to the different driving characteristics to the 110 TDI. At the bottom of the Rev range the 1.4 TSI is very flat compared to the TDI. Once the turbo is spooled up between 1500 - 2500 rpm it drives much like the 110 TDI, get past 2500 rpm and the 1.4 TSI leaves my old 110 TDI for dust.

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I think the anti-diesel lobby have their sights set on pre Euro 6, although clearly all diesels are being tarred with the same brush. A 150 TDI SE L with nav would have cost me £1500 more than my 1.4 L&K once the respective discounts and incentives were applied.

That made my mind up for me, although the technology of the latest diesels are now largely able to cope with the low mileage problems of the past. The 1.4 is torquey and quick, if still a little thirsty for motorway use. Also, I'm still becoming accustomed to the different driving characteristics to the 110 TDI. At the bottom of the Rev range the 1.4 TSI is very flat compared to the TDI. Once the turbo is spooled up between 1500 - 2500 rpm it drives much like the 110 TDI, get past 2500 rpm and the 1.4 TSI leaves my old 110 TDI for dust.

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If you are going for a new Yeti, in the Autumn, then remember it is old now and being replaced in 2017.

You should be getting some hefty discounts as it will fall in value when new one hits the road.

Personally I'm annoyed with Skoda UK, I want petrol as I do lots of short journeys, and I want an auto. Would have paid extra for 1.4 tsi but they won't sell me one unless I have the manual gearbox.

There is a new July 2016 version of brochure on Skoda UK website and seems to be less engine choice than last year.

Edited 10 July, 201610 yr by SurreyJohn

If you are going for a new Yeti, in the Autumn, then remember it is old now and being replaced in 2017.

 

I thought it was agreed that the replacement date for the existing Yeti is 2018?

The larger Kodiak is being launched in 2017.

I agree that the best estimate for the Yeti II is late 2018 as far as I know from my dealer.

Good point about the replacement. It may be more cost effective to keep our present Yeti until the new one is announced in 2018. The depreciation should be reducing now after nearly 6 years.

Just noticed my thread says we have a 150 tdi - of course it should read 140!! So the new EU6 150 is better than the 140 in what respect - still a complex motor to cope with emissions? I'm just wondering about the reliability/longevity with so much added emissions kit.

It's a much smoother and more refined engine, charge cooler instead of intercooler, different EGR running much lower temps etc, I'd certainly drive one to see for your self but they are night and day compared to the older CR engines

Mines now mapped over 200bhp and still returns mid 50's mpg

For what it's worth, we changed our Superb 170 Tdi DSG 4x4 for a new Yeti 1.2TSI DSG 4x2 in June, our 4th Yeti.   I have just returned from a 2,500 mile round trip to Austria.  The car ran superbly (no pun) returning an average of 43 mpg.

 

John

Money no problem. Similar trade in for mine. Always had diesels but maybe now with their complexity and future taxation....?

this is why after 30 years of driving diesel I have gone back to petrol

 

petrol MPG has improved the last 5 years, only emissions on a petrol is basically 40 year old cat convertor technology, compared to EGR valves which clog, DPF which clog and now SCR NOx cats that need ad blue 

 

unless you need torque for towing I would now always consider petrol over diesel

I agree that the best estimate for the Yeti II is late 2018 as far as I know from my dealer.

Dealers will always say the new car is further off in the distance so you buy what's on sale now.

Press releases form Skoda have said Yeti replacement will be 2018.

this is why after 30 years of driving diesel I have gone back to petrol

petrol MPG has improved the last 5 years, only emissions on a petrol is basically 40 year old cat convertor technology, compared to EGR valves which clog, DPF which clog and now SCR NOx cats that need ad blue

unless you need torque for towing I would now always consider petrol over diesel

The car is now only used for towing a trailer (plus occasionally pulling my 2wd tractor out of a stuck field!) so torque useful but not paramount. Will have to have a test drive of a TSI if I can find one.

depends on the trailer, my little 1.2 84PS i20 pulls a little unbraked trailer fine, wouldn't tow anything much bigger

 

the TSi engines do drive nicely, son in law had  1.2 tsi 105 rapid, and that pulled similar to a diesel from low revs

 

TSI's are not as good as a diesel for MPG or torque, but worth considering if you are not towing big caravans etc, but they are quieter, and you save about £2k on the price of  similar power diesel

Edited 10 July, 201610 yr by bluecar1

depends on the trailer, my little 1.2 84PS i20 pulls a little unbraked trailer fine, wouldn't tow anything much bigger

the TSi engines do drive nicely, son in law had 1.2 tsi 105 rapid, and that pulled similar to a diesel from low revs

TSI's are not as good as a diesel for MPG or torque, but worth considering if you are not towing big caravans etc, but they are quieter, and you save about £2k on the price of similar power diesel

Our trailer is an 8'x4' braked trailer.

Press releases form Skoda have said Yeti replacement will be 2018.

If we change now I would probably have to accept a much higher depreciation with the approach of a new model. Tricky decision!

Of course - perhaps sacrilege here, but it may also be worth considering the new Seat. The absence of the Yeti seating system (marmite to some) may put you off, otherwise a very well received vehicle by the motoring press.

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