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VRS TDI DSG vs Manual TFSI - 2010-2012

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Hello all,

 

So i have been looking to purchase another VRS estate again, 06/07 plates originally but funds have increased so now searching for 2010-2012 plates.

It will be my wifes car and mine to drive with it bit more right foot evenings / weekends.

 

I have searching autotrader and found the following in our budget (10k max)

 

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201609117652758/usedcars?logcode=visc

 

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201609167827746/usedcars?logcode=visc

 

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608227026635/usedcars?logcode=visc

 

The car will not do alot of miles, my kids schools are walking distance, local tescos is 20 mins away, so it will only be used for short trips but not everyday. We would all go out as a family on most weekends and i will use it myself to get to work on saturday morning, more spirited drive. (30 miles each way)

 

My question is would i be silly buying a tdi dsg, am i opening myself up to reliability / dpf issues and would i be better sticking with the petrol manual. I ask this as prices are very similar.

 

Thanks

James

I guess you want a silver one then.... :D id say try both & see which you like best,some say on here that the dsg box is not that well suited to the diesel vrs,the diesel should be cheaper to tax & run & there isnt that many reported issues with the dpf on here on the newer cr engine,the TFSI engine is not fitted to those cars they have the TSI engine on which there has been a few cases of the timing chain tensioner failing.

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Haha thanks for the quick reply. I had a race blue (my 06 plate vrs estate) a while ago and whilst i loved that color i always hated the chrome grill which really stood out against the blue.

The silver at least attempts to hide the chrome.

Thanks for correcting me regarding the engine, unfortunately there are hardly any local to me to try but im no rush so can wait for the right car. Are the DSG gear boxes problematic or generally ok ?

Edited by Fullraceb20

I haven't driven the CR TDI vRS. Many argue dpf are not suited to short trip driving but maybe it is not that big a problem from the previous post.

 

On the other hand, the TSI does have the vulnerable timing chain tensioner. I think the current version of tensioner was in cars from end of 1st quarter 2012 (there is a post in forums on this site somewhere about likely revision dates).  If the car is pre then, it would be prudent to consider a premptive replacement. Perhaps even a replacement of the latest revision, depending on how you feel about risk taking. It is a bit more expensive than a belt but not massively so.

 

It is a massive cost, if it fails catastrophically.

 

I'd have a manual if it wasn't for the wife demands and given a choice. The DSG however, works pretty well in the TSI.  It isn't perfect but compared to autos of yesteryear, it is a lot better. The 6sp is supposed to be more robust and reliable than the later 7sp dry clutch design on lower capacity engines.  There is still the 40k Oil service you have to factor on the 6sp or make sure it was done as scheduled and mechantronic failures and clutch packs can be a problem but seem to be relatively infrequent now on up to moderate mileages.

 

Edit: I think it would be fair to say if something was to go wrong with a DSG, it is very likely to be more expensive than a manual to repair.

Edited by TheClient

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Yeh wife wants an auto but i don't want the issues that could come with it. I think we have narrowed it down to these two now -

 

http://www.mayburymotorcompany.co.uk/used-SKODA-OCTAVIA-Kettering-Northamptonshire-919734

 

http://www.oaklandsautomotive.co.uk/skoda-octavia-vrs-tfsi-in-clevedon-bristol-6093030

 

Although i am drawn to this for some reason, we live in a very hilly area and the diesel torque could work well -

 

http://www.driftbridge.co.uk/mazda/used-cars/6455277-skoda-octavia-vrs-tdi-cr-dsg/?utm_source=11&utm_medium=3&utm_campaign=CM000306-1

 

Is there any difference in 2010 and 2012 VRS's ?

Well, they all look nice!

 

For starters, on the petrol's the 2012 is far more likely to have the current spec tensioner fitted, plus the car is 2 years fresher, assuming a previous owner with the same attention to car!

 

The diesel would certainly be good for hills. It doesn't have rear parking sensors, by the looks of the petrols ,they did. Although none of them had front sensors. Rears are pretty useful.

 

Also, first glance none seemed to have light sensors / auto wipers convenience pack edit: if you like them, not everyone does. Again, my wife does.  But the prices seemed pretty competitive especially the 2012.

 

Just had a glance at the photos and the introductory tables so adjust my comments if I have missed a feature or spec item! 

Edited by TheClient

I have a 2010 FL CR170 manual and cant fault it. I personally wouldnt buy a DSG incase the mechatronic gadgetry failed and that can be costly. Plus I prefer manual gearboxes. Either way you wont be disappointed with the VRS ????

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