Edited 19 November, 20169 yr by freedie

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Is the CX5 Mazda not a proposition in the U.K.?.

As said in another post in the past I've generally stuck to the same manufacturer or group but when it comes to replacement time I'm certainly going to have a look at other offerings.

I should have more time to do it. Given the increasingly large number of vehicles in the sector I shall need it!

I too like the sound of the Kodiaq but was speaking to my dealer who has seen one - reckons it's a similar size to an Audi Q7 so a massive beast - no surprise it needs a 2.0 TSI. Rumour has it the new Yeti will be slightly bigger - closer to MX5 size and a new Fabia based SUV will appear that isn't much smaller than the current Yeti.

Blimey, Q7 size! That rules one out then, I was guessing it was more Tiguan size from the photos and the prices.

If it is as big as a Q7 I'm puzzled that Skoda are joining that segment as you don't see that many Q7s on the road, it is quite a limited market. Never mind a 2.0 I'd want a 3.0 litre in a beast like that as offered in the Q7!

If the Yeti replacement is slightly bigger that would be ideal. Depends on the engine options though.

Blimey, Q7 size! That rules one out then, I was guessing it was more Tiguan size from the photos and the prices.

If it is as big as a Q7 I'm puzzled that Skoda are joining that segment as you don't see that many Q7s on the road, it is quite a limited market. Never mind a 2.0 I'd want a 3.0 litre in a beast like that as offered in the Q7!

If the Yeti replacement is slightly bigger that would be ideal. Depends on the engine options though.

Subaru have a Viziv 7 which a big 7 seater but only for the U.S. , at least at this stage.........it's over 5m long and to compete with the Q7

Toyota have a Juke and CX3 competitor also.

At this rate the only sedans will be top end exec ones

..funnily enough we currently thinking about changing both our cars next year and getting a Yeti for "towing" and stuff, and an MX5 for "sunny days / holidays".....

 

Just a shame that they don't do a bigger petrol engine Yeti for those of us who want petrol and also to tow...

That's what I did except got a TT.

As I'm doing less miles now and will be doing even less in the future, as won't be commuting, I'm not worried about fuel consumption as long as it's reasonable but want a petrol with pretty good power not just borderline adequate.

Of course the Kodiaq isn't nearly the same size as a Q7.  The dealer who said that must have been trying, as usual, to sell something he actually has available. It is a full 14 inches shorter and 3.5 inches narrower.  And that's comparing the Kodiaq to the new slimline 2015 Q7 - the previous Q7 was even bigger.

I was thinking that the dealer was talking b@ll@x as well!

An interesting size comparison: MX5 v Yeti.......not a bad combination though.

Oooops - that will be CX5

Of course the Kodiaq isn't nearly the same size as a Q7.  The dealer who said that must have been trying, as usual, to sell something he actually has available. It is a full 14 inches shorter and 3.5 inches narrower.  And that's comparing the Kodiaq to the new slimline 2015 Q7 - the previous Q7 was even bigger.

He wasn't trying to sell me anything, having sold me a new Yeti only 3 months ago he knows I'm not considering changing just yet. It was the salesman who I dealt with previously I was speaking to as I popped in when passing. Conversation turned to the changes to the Skoda SUV offering. To be precise, it was his Dealer Principle who had actually been up to Skoda GB HQ and saw one. The comment was based on a relayed conversation with his boss, nothing more sinister than that. This was his boss's perception from briefly looking at it, not some sore of precise comparison - the nub of it being he was surprised how big it looked.

The Kodiaq is 19" longer than a Yeti while still being 14" shorter than a Q7.

In the flesh & on paper the Kodiaq is shorter than a VW Passat Estate & other VW Group estates, so just another SUV available a size / class up from a Yeti.

The Towing capacity of the vehicles with 7 seat is disappointing as they are being launched with the engine choices, if towing capacity is important to you.

Of course for power and performance size doesn't matter, it's weight.

 

The Q7 range has a kerbweight from around 2100kg to over 2600kg The Kodiaq starts from just over 1500kg.

 

The weight of the entry Kodiaq is just 250kg heavier than a Mk1 Fabia diesel.

 

Lee 

Kerb weights for Entry level petrol manual Kodiaq is quite low. 75 kg driver and all that jazz.

1,600 kg Max towing.

Real world not on a rolling road aerodynamics & fuel consumption at revenue weight will be interesting to see.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/410242-kodiaq-spec-sheet

Edited 20 November, 20169 yr by Offski

Of course for power and performance size doesn't matter, it's weight.

 

The Q7 range has a kerbweight from around 2100kg to over 2600kg The Kodiaq starts from just over 1500kg.

 

The weight of the entry Kodiaq is just 250kg heavier than a Mk1 Fabia diesel.

 

Lee

Wow!

Range Rovers are only average on that basis.............what a porker!

Wow!

Range Rovers are only average on that basis.............what a porker!

 

the previous gen Range Rovers and Discoveries were the real porkers. 2700kg an upto 3000kg with some tasty options.

the previous gen Range Rovers and Discoveries were the real porkers. 2700kg an upto 3000kg with some tasty options.

In Oz the Q7 is north of 2400kg which for an Audi seems massive.

You naturally accept a RR to be heavier; to be equal is an eye opener.

It seems the Audi Diesel engine option = + 140kg which is an awful lot of extra engine beef.

The Kodiaq is 19" longer than a Yeti while still being 14" shorter than a Q7.

In the flesh & on paper the Kodiaq is shorter than a VW Passat Estate & other VW Group estates, so just another SUV available a size / class up from a Yeti.

The Towing capacity of the vehicles with 7 seat is disappointing as they are being launched with the engine choices, if towing capacity is important to you.

Having had three Passat estates and an A6 the Kodiaq isn't a bad size then i.e. not too big.

But I have got used to and like the shorter length of the Yeti for parking so I think that it's replacement will still be the better bet especially as my wife will be getting rid of her car when I give up work and she isn't too keen on big cars. She really likes the current Yeti.

Having had three Passat estates and an A6 the Kodiaq isn't a bad size then i.e. not too big.

But I have got used to and like the shorter length of the Yeti for parking so I think that it's replacement will still be the better bet especially as my wife will be getting rid of her car when I give up work and she isn't too keen on big cars. She really likes the current Yeti.

The Yeti THE best city car

In Oz the Q7 is north of 2400kg which for an Audi seems massive.

You naturally accept a RR to be heavier; to be equal is an eye opener.

It seems the Audi Diesel engine option = + 140kg which is an awful lot of extra engine beef.

 

When Land Rover swapped the Disco and Range Rover from Ladder Chassis to Monocoque with aluminium frames they knocked up to 700kg off some models in a single generation change. Most models shed at least 500kg.

 

Lee

When Land Rover swapped the Disco and Range Rover from Ladder Chassis to Monocoque with aluminium frames they knocked up to 700kg off some models in a single generation change. Most models shed at least 500kg.

 

Lee

Tata money British engineering seem to be a good combo.