How on earth can a factory install of Windows 10 on a brand new tablet occupy 45GB of space (Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro S)?

 

Why is the edge browser so completely vulnerable to all sorts threats that dont seem to bother other browsers?

 

Why is W10 such a cluttered POS?

 

It's a lovely bit of hardware, but W10 ruins it IMO.

 

i removed all tiles from the start menu apart from control panel, notepad, windows defender and one other. I've not used edge - normally firefox. I've tried everything i could find to remove Flash, but still get messages it's updated when windows updates.

Back up and installation files can take up a lot of space. They're removable from the menu....somewhere.

 

Win10..... well it's not bad under the skin but yes the interface is a bit maddening but better than Win8.

 

MS is a PITA with their constant advertising and data grabbing but they're just catching up to the game everyone else plays.

Known uses of "Internet Explorer" - downloading your preference of Chrome or Firefox.

As above most of the space will be the restoration image. If you have a backup of this, remove it. Along with cortana, Edge and loads of other rubbish from the windows add in section of add/remove programs.

Windows 10 is a lot better than 8.x. At least 10 works well and is fast and stable - well is on my tablet and laptops running it.

Nice and clean!

Back up and installation files can take up a lot of space. They're removable from the menu....somewhere.

 

Win10..... well it's not bad under the skin but yes the interface is a bit maddening but better than Win8.

 

MS is a PITA with their constant advertising and data grabbing but they're just catching up to the game everyone else plays.

Just checked my W10 install ,which has what I'd call a normal install- no W10gimmicks like Cortana/Edge  ( I use FF) and on an Ultimate install , with office 2003 full set and office 2003/Photodraw plus Adobe reader & Photoshop elements + Autoroute 2010 & Avast  I'm only using 14GB. It's possibly better than XP PRO ,and from what I hear, I'm glad I missed out on the W8 /8.1 versions and Vista and went straight to W7, which I use in preference to 10.

Saying that my Mobile is a Lumia 435 running the mobile version of 8.1, and once I got used to it's quirks ,it runs not too bad.

I easily prefer Windows 8.1 over 10 and always surprised at the hate for 8.1 but the love for ten, most of the best features in ten came from 8.1 while 8.1 doesn't have most of the garbage that Windows 10 does - Win10 reminds me of a malware infested machine there's so much needs cleaned out of it, Win8.1 was a fairly clean install, ran smoother (particularly on Core-m's and Atoms) and has a usable touch interface unlike the pointless mess the 'tablet' mode is.  Almost all the complaints about ten in this thread are specific to ten and not in Windows 8 yet still the latter gets all the criticism, I guess that's what branding and market perception can do in the wrong hands.

 

Before anyone asks why I'm running Windows 10, there's not much choice with MS aggressively forcing people onto Win10 by only supporting certain features on the new OS.  I keep meaning to get around to writing some scripts to clean up a Windows 10 install but right now I feel I've wasted enough time with W10 installs to last me a while.

 

John

Microsoft seem to release the occasional good OS. For me, the best have been MS DOS up to 6.2x, Windows 2000 and Windows 7.The rest have been compromised to some extent. W95 was hopelessly unstable, W98 was basically 95 mostly fixed. ME was a weird one, not stable. XP, did too much too poorly, the beginning of the clutter culture. Vista, I found to be OK, but it needed a lot of hardware to run it well. W8 / 8.1 see MS move onto hopelessly cluttered software and pernicious automation. W10 takes this further.

 

Still unable to understand how this OS is taking up so much space on my hard drive. Even with mirror copy, it should never be this big.

If you have a OEM (recovery?) disc you can always format the HDD and do a clean installation.

 

I do one every so often to purge the system of any nasties and any instabilities, it also downloads the latest updates and newest drivers.

If you have a OEM (recovery?) disc you can always format the HDD and do a clean installation.

 

I do one every so often to purge the system of any nasties and any instabilities, it also downloads the latest updates and newest drivers.

Unfortunately, I've only got whatever is on the hard drive. No discs supplied.

It's worth hunting down an OEM version of Windows 10 (Pro is a bit better, than the Home edition) and then you can if the HDD goes kaput or gets corrupted you can do a clean installation.

 

You can get it from Amazon at around the £50 mark (although it does fluctuate quite wildly) and once you have it you can do a clean install and purge the existing HDD of the current installation.

 

Have you tried asking WIndows 10 to do a clean of the HDD itself? By right clicking on C drive and then properties and doing Disk Cleanup? Have you tried removing all of the restore points, they take up serious amounts of HDD space.

Nice and clean!

I prefer the old 7 Start menu. :)

 

 

Have you tried asking WIndows 10 to do a clean of the HDD itself? By right clicking on C drive and then properties and doing Disk Cleanup? Have you tried removing all of the restore points, they take up serious amounts of HDD space.

First thing I did, before it had made any restore points. I wonder if it's Samsung clutter? Think I'll just put up with it, the display is worth the ****ness that is W10, just about.

ChrisGB did a good precis of MS systems, but left out -98SE-which I found more unstable than the copies of 95 I've tried. ME- I gave up on ,and moved to W2K, which worked great on my old IBM laptop( apart from lack of memory on 2k). XP would work on that laptop, but at the speed of a snail . I've found XP PRO has stability problems as well . Never tried Vista or Win 8 ,though my Windows phone runs 8.1 and it seems OK.I've got Win 10/64 running on this PC (AMD 4-4000APU with  Radion graphics at  3GHZ with 4 GB Memory and still get problems . So Like Lee, I stick to W7/64.I can't ever see me using  w10 as my main system  , as there's too much crud Windows wants to install . And I've still got some older hardware ( made in the days when stuff was made to last between MS software updates, where the makers might not be able to produce updates). 

Up to and including XP, I regularly had to do format/ repartition.reinstall to get rid of nasties which Windows decided I needed, but which just added to the junk .Then came W7 - and a long period before my Motherboard decided to self destruct, with out any need to clean out junk. I've had W7 installed from the first Beta to the final release and to me ,it's what an OS should be.

But I keep copies of my OS/ MB install discs and every other program I install on my PC. On another HD. And CD/DVD in a Panic wallet. Along with that, I keep a CD ( FLOPPY ON OLDER MOTHERBOARDS) ,with W98 STARTUP with FDISK & FORMAT and Bios update & flash (in case of HDD/ BIOS RANSOMWARE).

Not Paranoia- just something Lee will recognise , as olde fashioned pre BT training, where systems were made as trousers were in Yorkshire- held up by belt/braces ,and if all failed -bit of string.

The problem with ME was driver support, if you had hardware that was supported, it was great. I ran several of the Nursery computers on ME for a decade, and never had a single BSOD, even with the Win95/Win98 games installed on it.

 

The same with XP 64, I never had a BSOD, but half my hardware wouldnt work beyond basic operation due to the lack of drivers.

Unfortunately, I've only got whatever is on the hard drive. No discs supplied.

 

Download it.

 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10

You need to set up a Microsoft account and register your Win10 installed device, otherwise it wont be free on any re-install.