Ist alles in Ordnung . . . . - oh no its not !

[wonkyewok]

On 27/05/2017 at 23:58, Clunkclick said:

Number of people using laser pointers and reckless use of drones on the Heathrow approach would justify use of  this term. 

 

N.

The picture's a bit small to be sure, but at first sight it doesn't look like heat damage. Also I'd say that getting that much power in a beam from long distance is way expensive (tens of thousands of pounds if not hundreds of thousands). If I had to bet I'd say a corner of a box has been pushed into it.

[Guest]

Things to note;

 

Air Berlins(AB) corporate colours are red and white.  The damaged area is yellow. 

AB operate Boeing, Airbus and Bombardier aircraft.

The aircraft involved in the incident was on charter from Mistral Air whose corporate colours are white and tah-dah, yellow - engine cowlings, arse end and cockpit.  Everywhere else is white.

The area where the damage is located is very rivetted which is nearly always near the arse end as you want air flow to be as smooth as possible.

The damage was most likely caused by a service vehicle-the vehicle towing the GPU whilst the aircraft is stationery on the Ramp, the catering vehicle (do you think the flight crew carry it on?), the poo and potable water bowsers, fuel truck et al.

The video footage you show has been edited - or are you claiming aliens teleported the GPU up to their spaceship at 2:53, or was David Blane/Dynamo on tour there?

There are loads of security protocols that have to be adhered to; worldwide, UK and European.  A mandatory walkround of the aircraft has to be conducted by a member of the Flight Deck crew (it does't have to be the Captain, but normally is), engineers from the airport also do a walkround of the aircraft, and any ground staff have to report/highlight any damage they observe - it is in their best interest to do so, if they ignore it and it is observed upon landing at the onward airport, the big Finger of Suspicion is pointed at the previous airport and it is Squeaky Bum Time.

 

3/10.  Must try harder.

[Clunkclick]

What would the apron crew be doing manoevering the GPU under the trailling edge of the  port wing between the engine nacelle and the wing root, or even further aft, when the electrical connection point is on the Starboard side front fuselage - see  film. Good practice, surely, is for the GPU to be in visual sight of the cockpit, so flight deck crew can see it and don't initiate depart with the thing still attached by cables ?

 

Furthermore, it would be impossible for the GPU to clump the flap, even if the GPU was wrongly positioned and the flap was left fully deployed i.e. vertically down from the trailling edge because the GPU is not tall enough - see film.

 

Inter-city/regional flights lasting 1-1.5 hours, virtually no catering required. With the fuselage that low slung, in the absence of a built-in, electro/hydraulically operated ramp (Like the buses), they probably use ally light weight portable ramp (Like car tow trucks have) to push the catering trollies on.

 

The MO for these sort of operations is that  you transit from a central hub to radial destinations - usually the major services, fuel, catering, sullage are only available at the hub. The outlier stations only provide the GPU., fire truck, air traffic and . . pax. The economics and logistics of this sort of  cut-price fare transport is founded on these assumptions. It doesn't work otherwise.

 

Some people on here have very delicate egos, but thanks for the insults anyway.

 

And the original question . . . . . ?

 

N

 

 

Edited 1 June, 2017 by Clunkclick

[Clunkclick]

23 hours and response still not posted - touch of arthritis  ?

 

N

[gadgetman]

10 minutes ago, Clunkclick said:

23 hours and response still not posted - touch of arthritis  ?

 

N

Nick, staff are not solely here to approve your posts. 

 

If you could be trusted to not add insulting those more knowledgeable than you because the answer given to your request for help doesn't fit with you, border line racist and disrespectful posts (Manchester bomb thread) you wouldn't have again been placed on staff approval for all your posts after Colin giving you a 2nd chance from being placed on the last staff approval list. 

 

Do that's why you have to wait for your posts to appear. 

 

HTH

Edited 2 June, 2017 by gadgetman

[gadgetman]

23 hours ago, Clunkclick said:

What would the apron crew be doing manoevering the GPU under the trailling edge of the  port wing between the engine nacelle and the wing root, or even further aft, when the electrical connection point is on the Starboard side front fuselage

A question only the ground crew can answer. 

 

Perhaps you should interject on pprune as you seem to be able to answer this better than they have.