Hi guys,

 

This is my first retrofit attempt and I'm a noob to all this. I have taken the plunge and wanted to share with you where I'm up to and just to make sure I'm on the right track.

 

I have had some help already and it wouldn't have been possible with Eddie's help.

 

I have fitted the heating elements into the seats, wired them up and put them into the car. 

 

I'm working using this info: 

"Fitting info for wiring loom from Eddie-NL

 

Red Wire = Fusebox constant 12v

 

Brown = Ground

 

wire from (Pin 1) ten pin plug (one with more wires) goes to pin 21 on BCM plug B

wire from (Pin2 ) pin 10 on Climatronic T20

wire from (Pin 7 ) pin 11 on Climatronic T20"

 

I'm having trouble wiring and I want to make sure that I am on the right track. I found the ground point under the steering wheel and earthed both seats to it.

 

The pins for climatronic don't fit the correct plug and the one for the bcm doesn't fit. I'm guessing these need snipping off and replacing?

 

The 12v wire I have plugged into the fuse box. I just need to know where and how to get power to it.

 

Thanks for help in advance!

 

Pins for the climatronic and BCM should just plug into the relevant blank holes on the multi pin plugs. Where did you get your loom from? 

1 hour ago, dilksie said:

Pins for the climatronic and BCM should just plug into the relevant blank holes on the multi pin plugs. Where did you get your loom from? 

 

Loom was from http://www.skodateile.cz it should have fit but only the fuse wire fits. It was an original factory loom.

 

The crimped ends will not go all the way into the pins for bcm and climatronic. I'll post a picture of the end when I get home.

7 hours ago, dilksie said:

Pins for the climatronic and BCM should just plug into the relevant blank holes on the multi pin plugs. Where did you get your loom from? 

 

 

It was hard to get a picture but that's the one that's supposed to go the bcm the ones to the climatronic are the same

 

 

They look like the right ones, as far as I recall (from when I did my footwell lights) they will only fit one way and took a bit of effort to push all the way home

Looks like a nice retrofit. I see you also have the Blackline, would you mind sharing how difficult was it to remove the leather trim from the seat? 

7 hours ago, dilksie said:

They look like the right ones, as far as I recall (from when I did my footwell lights) they will only fit one way and took a bit of effort to push all the way home

Yeah I looked and orientated but I was afraid of snapping the ends. I'll try and slot them in and be braver

2 hours ago, singh946 said:

Looks like a nice retrofit. I see you also have the Blackline, would you mind sharing how difficult was it to remove the leather trim from the seat? 

Singh it's not too bad for someone who's never done it before. Just make sure you have plenty of time and don't rush. Long nose pliers are a god send it's virtually impossible without them. Passenger seat took me a few hours. Driver's seat took me a couple of hours. I couldn't have done it without Eddie's guide. I didn't break any clips in the end although I ordered extras. Wiring wasn't too bad either I just followed the side of the airbag. Use Eddie's guide and I'll try and answer any of your questions

I put the fuse line in to position 38 just because it was easier to get to. I know that I should tap into a 12v constant instead of an ignition live. Where should I piggy back from?

If anyone is following this I got it all to work. I made some noob mistakes and everything now makes sense.

 

In the fusebox there are certain powered locations. Position 38 isn't powered. I moved the power to position 37 which is powered. The MK3 Octavia position 38 in the fusebox is for rear heated seats.

 

I also went back and loom taped all the wiring and simplified everything. I worked out the best route for all the cabling. I can tell anyone who wants to know just PM me.

 

As far as the pins not fitting it was a noob mistake. I didn't release the pin release from the sockets. Again I can share by PM. 

 

Nice one, you will have felt the benefit of these recently. Do they switch off automatically or manually. I ask because mine get so hot that I turn them off after 5-10 minutes even if it's at the lowest settng. 

The seats are not on a timer so need switching off manually

On my MK2 it'll stay on full power for 10 minutes then drop to a power level, I believe it's a setting VCDS can change.

 

Not sure if your MK3 will have the same setting @Redboy.

6 hours ago, Redboy said:

Nice one, you will have felt the benefit of these recently. Do they switch off automatically or manually. I ask because mine get so hot that I turn them off after 5-10 minutes even if it's at the lowest settng. 

Definitely best retrofit so far. As dilksie said need to turn them off. I don't know whether it's in my head or not but the more I use them the more I feel like I'm getting better heat out of them. 

 

Langers I tried looking for it but couldn't find it. I tried enabling heating memory for 10 mins in mine but it'll only do it for the driver's seat and it'll remember it permanently. It's not a bad thing in this weather though

@Andy230 - got an autoscan?

 

Both driver and passenger seats remember the last setting and do the 10 minute power reduction from 3 to 2 bars. I updated the SW in my  climate panel which may have add this...

@langers2k

I'll have a try later on today probably be after 7 when I'll get first chance

@langers2k

Chassis Type: 1Z-SK35 (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: TMBEH21Z7D2046393   Mileage: 140820km-87501miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (CEG)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBA.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 022 RD    HW: 03L 906 022 GA
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI G000SG  9977  
   Revision: 13H15---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0001072
   Shop #: WSC 42085 002 1048576
   VCID: 78AAE1207EDA3AE7621-802C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BK    HW: 1K0 907 379 BK
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 163B601C09260000680E06ED901C0082340800
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   VCID: 7CA2FD3046E216C7069-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 907 044 AC    HW: 3T0 907 044 AC
   Component: Climatronic   122 0203  
   Revision: 00003001    
   Coding: 0100000008
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01001
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SK35.rod
   VCID: 73B0D60C6B3C59BF573-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 AD    HW: 1K0 937 087 AD
   Component: BCM PQ35  H   111 0709  
   Revision: AB111709    
   Coding: 48000AB8E07BB1C040080080310081E4437800AE436D8560808C40040040
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   VCID: 73B0D60C6BBC59BF573-8026

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Z2 955 119 D  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 18071  26  0601 
   Coding: 00D7B7

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 150514 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0730ED

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1Z0 951 171 
   Component: Innenraumuebe  008 5101 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5J0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 5J0 919 475 A    HW: 5J0 919 475 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H11 0005  
   Revision: --H11---    Serial number: 32901220200163
   Coding: 10800F
   Shop #: WSC 13765 790 00209
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14SKxxx0000 001001
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14SKxxx0000_001.rod
   VCID: 3330160C2BBC19BF973-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: Q4 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PC2BBSGU  
   Coding: 0020788
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   VCID: 3D2430341178DFCF717-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME69002244+

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME6E020C71E

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 BA    HW: 5K0 953 549 C
   Component: Lenks.Modul   008 0080  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:  90849LGR000KY
   Coding: 5080140000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_A05.rod
   VCID: 70BAD9001A2A62A7AA1-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 920 943 TX    HW: 1Z0 920 943 TX
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0608  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 710A01
   Shop #: WSC 03491 002 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW32.rod
   VCID: 221EE348844680376C5-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 R    HW: 7N0 907 530 H
   Component: J533  Gateway H42 1632  
   Revision:   H42       Serial number: 110712F2001069
   Coding: 351303
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   VCID: 3FD84A3C1774CDDF63B-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0608  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A8ECB683CF69877E45-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels:| 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 035 192 G    HW: 3T0 035 192 G
   Component: RNS315-EU   H52 0319  
   Serial number: SKZAZ2M9280991
   Coding: 000004010401000000000202
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00209
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS 001705
   ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS.rod
   VCID: 323E1308D4A610B79C5-8066

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 
   Component: EUR_W_V9  0069 

1 Fault Found:
1048650 - Telephone baseplate 
          B1051 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 254
                    Mileage: 140828 km
                    Date: 2017.12.13
                    Time: 22:10:03

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 AF    HW: 1T0 959 701 AF
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2120  
   Coding: 0000756
   Shop #: WSC 51811 001 1048576
   VCID: 7BA0FE2C4FEC11FF0F3-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 74     3305  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   VCID: 3728221C3344F59FABB-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 R    HW: 1T0 959 702 R
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2120  
   Coding: 0000756
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   VCID: 47C852DC43A4851FDBB-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 A    HW: 5K0 959 703 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012561
   VCID: 323E1308D82610B79C5-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 A    HW: 5K0 959 704 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3330160C273C19BF973-8066

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:02, VBatt start/end: 14.1V/14.1V)-----------
 

Mileage: 140820km-87501mi   Repair Order: climatronic

                Address 08: Auto HVAC
Control Module Part Number: 3T0 907 044 AC
  Component and/or Version: Climatronic   122 0203
           Software Coding: 0100000008
            Work Shop Code: WSC 73430
                      VCID: 73B0D60C6B3C59BF573-8026

Advanced Identification/FAZIT
     Revision: 00003001
Flash Status
     Programming Attempts(application): 0/0/0
     Successful Attempts(application): 0/0/0
     Programming Status: 00000000
     Flash Date: 00.00.00
Software
     BAP: 01.04.00
     UDS: 01.02.11
     Diag: 01.02.03
     CAN: 01.11.06
     ISO15765: 01.02.11
     OSEK Net: 03.69.01
Misc.
     Hardware number: 3T0 907 044 AC
     Workshop System Name: J255
     End of Line Equipment Level: ------------------
     ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic
     ASAM Dataset Revision: A01001
VCDS Info:
       VCID: 73B0D60C6B3C59BF573-8026
       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
       ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SK35.rod

 

 

;SW:3T0-907-044-AC   HW:3T0-907-044-AC ---  Auto HVAC
;Component:Climatronic   122 0203	Coding:0100000008
;EV_Climatronic	A01001	EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SK35.rod
;Thursday	14	December	2017	21:23:50:38674
;VCDS Version: Release 17.8.1 (x64)  Data version: 20171130 DS276.6
;VCID: 73B0D60C6B3C59BF573-8026
IDE01067-Retention of driver's seat heater level	active for 10 minutes	1
IDE01503-Runtime for compressor run-in basic setting	1 s	1
IDE03176-Duration of compressor run in	0 s	1
IDE80001-Analysis 1	00 00	2
Elapsed Time: 00:02
;SW:3T0-907-044-AC   HW:3T0-907-044-AC ---  Auto HVAC
;Component:Climatronic   122 0203	Coding:0100000008
;EV_Climatronic	A01001	EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SK35.rod
;Thursday	14	December	2017	21:24:11:38674
;VCDS Version: Release 17.8.1 (x64)  Data version: 20171130 DS276.6
;VCID: 73B0D60C6B3C59BF573-8026
IDE01067-Retention of driver's seat heater level	active for 10 minutes	1
IDE01503-Runtime for compressor run-in basic setting	1 s	1
IDE03176-Duration of compressor run in	0 s	1
IDE80001-Analysis 1	00 00	2

 

Looks like that's a much older unit. I don't think it'll update to the new software like mine did as it's ID is quite different.

 

Yours:

Part No SW: 3T0 907 044 AC    HW: 3T0 907 044 AC
Component: Climatronic   122 0203

 

Mine pre update:

Part No SW: 3T0 907 044 BL    HW: 3T0 907 044 BL
Component: Climatronic   H18 0506

 

Mine post update:

Part No SW: 3T0 907 044 BL    HW: 3T0 907 044 BL
Component: Climatronic   H18 0709

@langers2k

It was from an '09 superb I think. Eddie suggested another but I wasn't confident at swapping buttons over from my unit at the time. I wonder if it can be updated