Is there any difference in the ride height between stock and DCC suspension? 

 

Placed my my order yesterday for a 245 estate and now I'm thinking should I have spec'd DCC?

I have just been through the same thought process, in the end I went with DCC. The feedback I got from owners was its definitely worth it and the reviews online all say it's a worthwhile option and changes the cars character to suit your mood. 

 

I guess the the only way to know for sure is to get two test drives , one with and one without but of course in reality it's not that easy to arrange. 

 

I've not read anything about a difference in ride height though so I'd think they are the same.

Edited 15 October, 20178 yr by StreetHawk

DCC has nothing to do with the ride height, as it is related only to dampers. Springs are same, with or without this nice (if I may say - mandatory) upgrade for vRS.

 

It's the one thing I would definitely spec if I'd bought mine new ...

 

It's one of the things that's making me look into the new Hyundai i30n - the fact you can set the entire car up to how you feel. There's literally a setting for every occasion.

The 245 with DCC in Standard mode is pretty firm, which I assume is close to non-DCC. As I've said before however Comfort mode does not change the 245 into an old skool Citroen DS.  I would go as far as to say an O2 VRS on 17s has a far far better ride than a 245 in Comfort mode. Arguably the O2 on 18s too. So if you're desperate to get any improvement in ride on 19s get DCC, but it is just damper control, to genuinely make the ride significantly better the spring rates would need to change too. Ride height no different. I have a 245 estate with DCC, I would probably order it again if I could go back in time but I remain to be convinced it's the wonder of modern science others suggest. I should add however I have never driven a VRS without DCC on 19s and my experience of the 245 with DCC is only about 1400 miles (but that's a lot more than most magazine road Tests).

Edited 16 October, 20178 yr by juan27

Don't forget that DCC is always active system which adjusts damperts constatly according the inputs central unit gets from all sensors. It is not just the stiffness adjustment, but a very nice system which contributes a lot in driving dynamics. I feel it's doing something, as driving this car you feel the road differently. Even when it is set to Normal and Sport modes, you feel the stiffness, of course, but it is not very much intruding, can't explain.

 

The feel itself is  different the driving another stiff car, which I have been driving a lot in the past. I don't think anyone will regret in configuring it. I know I haven't.

On 15/10/2017 at 20:10, stu83 said:

It's one of the things that's making me look into the new Hyundai i30n - the fact you can set the entire car up to how you feel. There's literally a setting for every occasion.

The i30n could turn out to be a cult car. It reminds me a little of the early-90's Nissan Sunny GTI or late 90's Impreza Turbo's. You won't see many about but all the school kids will know what it is and stop a point with envy.

6 minutes ago, Orville said:

The i30n could turn out to be a cult car. It reminds me a little of the early-90's Nissan Sunny GTI or late 90's Impreza Turbo's. You won't see many about but all the school kids will know what it is and stop a point with envy.

 

Yeah, I do feel it could be a fantastic little understated car. I'll be taking a trip to my local Hyundai dealer once it's released.

 

Pick one up at 1 year old with a few miles after the depreciation has hit, and you've got a cracking car with 4 year's warranty left!!!

On 15.10.2017 at 21:12, nidza said:

DCC has nothing to do with the ride height, as it is related only to dampers. Springs are same, with or without this nice (if I may say - mandatory) upgrade for vRS.

 

 

When I ordered my vRS with DCC, it was 5mm higher than vRS with standard suspension.

I wonder if that has changed to the FL model...

I don't think so as the suspension setup has not changed in the facelift.

Dcc is 10mm lower than the normal ride height. Sport suspension as used in the vrs is 5mm lower than that, so the vrs as standard is 15mm lower than normal ride height.

Edited 17 October, 20178 yr by roo

Exactly.

Any model with DCC is -10mm.

Any vRS (without DCC) is -15mm.

 

So vRS with DCC is +5mm to standard vRS.

 

I didn't know this. Can you plz quote a source of information?

 

This means springs aren't the same. This also means they had a good reason not to put same springs, which again leads us to question, what will happen if you pair DCC with a set of Eibach Pro-Kits?

Apparently, according to Eibach, the Pro-Kit springs are compatible with the DCC, I asked.

 

However....     there's loads of people on an Audi group I'm on that have reported poor suspension performance after fitting lowering springs with DCC, the system needs to be re-calibrated and that can only be done with someone with access to ODIS system (dealer level diagnostic), VCDS cannot do it.    It's something to do with the dampers knowing the rest point after lowering (which is obviously lower than before), they need to be re-calibrated to account for this, makes sense I guess.

 

There's someone down south, a diagnostic specialist that's been doing this for people on that forum and the difference is supposed to be night and day, not too expensive either.  

 

I'll find the page and share a link shortly.

 

The other options I've been looking at is the MSS Spring Kits, expensive but adjustable, they don't list the VRS specifically but easy enough to match up axle weights with other VAG cars they offer kits for (Various Golf's)

Edited 17 October, 20178 yr by Muzza80

Here's the place, http://www.vagcarcoding.com/services/

 

Based in London but have a place in Manchester too I think.

18 hours ago, Petunet said:

Exactly.

Any model with DCC is -10mm.

Any vRS (without DCC) is -15mm.

 

So vRS with DCC is +5mm to standard vRS.

 

 

Not sure this is true?