Skoda fabia mk3 diesel advice appreciated

[bollard]

Hello. considering buying the above but a bit preturbed about a post i read about stalling issues

 

 

Would appreciate any comments on the laterst fabia diesels please.

[Ootohere]

Welcome.

The Mk3 Fabia section might get you quicker replies.

Are you looking at a new one or used?

Also check the Pinned thread in the Mk3 Fabia section on the Water Pump issuessome have had  with Euro 6 1.4TDI 3 Cylinder engines.

[bollard]

sorry about posting in the wrong place, nearly new, like to buy one registered before the april 2017 road tax changed.

 

 

 

Edited 31 October, 2017 by bollard

[Auric Goldfinger]

The wife has a 15 plate Fabia MKIII SE-L, 1.2ltr, 110 Bhp and we have had no problems with it, cracking engine. It's a pleasure to drive

 

Had it since new and it's covered 7.5K miles

 

 

Edited 31 October, 2017 by Auric Goldfinger

[Ootohere]

If you are buying from before April 2017 for the sake of the VED then maybe consider if buying a keeper if a early 1.0TSI Ex Demonstrator might be worth buying 

if you can get a good deal. ie Cheapness.

 

Cracking engine in a Mk3 Fabia even if the Annual VED might be more expensive,

& likely more desirable as well in 2020 than a 2016 /2017 1.2 TSI or 1.4TDI if you are selling / trading in then.

[bollard]

absolutely loving our 6 mth old fabia 1.2 tsi, nice to be in/drive

 

[Lofty79]

No vehicle nowadays is without pattern problems in one way or another. 

Sometimes reports of problems are made worse by amount of sales.

 

Say a company sells 5 cars and one has issues and he writes about it on a forum.

Then the company sells 500 of another car and 5 people get a problem and report it.

 

It makes the latter look bad, however the % of failures is much less.

 

You can never properly judge.

1.6 CR ooooh big injector problems with them you may say, however millions sold, and if you look at the ones for sale with 150 200 300k miles on them. 

You pay your money and take your chance. 

Get the vehicle you want, that does the job you need and take the necessary precautions, but I say don't let these things put you off.

[Ootohere]

^^^ Have you read that thread up top on the 1.4TDI 3 cylinder that replaced the 1.6TDI CR in the Fabia, 

and the Overheating issues, water pumps, just a few vehicles maybe, and yet another Skoda/ VW fiasco of denial to begin with, 

then continued lack of honesty on the issue and the scale of it.

(Fabia have been built since 1999, and this is about the 4th or 5th version in the All New 3rd Generation Fabia, 

and now there is 'The wrong coolant used', what a load of Bull ****.)

 

The problem is not people reporting online that they had or have an issue.

The problem often is at a Dealership so employees says 'Never heard of that before, and others say 'They all do that', 

 

What there can be is 'Snagging faults', ones that should be logged and reported to Skoda UK the importer, and Skoda CZ the manufacturer.

 

Sometimes there is already a fault known and a TPI issues and some owners having the fault rectified under the system, 

and yet others are being panned off.

You do pay your money and take your chances, but that should not be the lottery of after sales care and employees at dealerships unqualified or untrained panning off owners / customers because the VW Group Warranty system is not fit for purpose.

 

The system goes on from one Skoda UK Brand Director to this latest one. 

He needs to get a grip of the company he is in charge of, Customer Services at Skoda UK and the Official Dealerships they franchise.

 

PS

1.6TDI CR Euro 5 engines were built and had a Defeat Device, there were some faulty parts, but also an illegal device that had the Emissions system opperating or not operating and there were and are EGR / DPF issues, and now 'The Fix' and hardware and software / engine managements carried out, and now upgrade parts required, and power loss and increased fuel use and increased regens, 

so even if the 1.6 TDI CR had been 100% perfect, it was an illegal EU Tested and Type Approved engine / vehicle, 

and that is no Internet Myth.

 

Now those buying ones that had 'The Fix' will be put off of from taking part in that that Lottery, yet the car could have been running perfectly since 2010,

but will now be 'A Lottery' where you do not know the odds, even with a 24 month VW Group type warranty.

 

PPS.

Hopefully the 1.6 TDI now being fitted in the New Skoda Karoq is the best it can be after years of evolution.

Sadly as tested now it will have one VED band, but if First Registered on the 6th April 2018 or later it will be one VED band higher 

and cost more in the first years VED.  Not having had the latest Real World testing started on the 1st September or meeting the new standards coming in but not foe a few years yet.

The All-New ŠKODA Karoq - Prices - ŠKODA.mhtml

Edited 3 December, 2017 by AwaoffSki

[Lofty79]

Yes I have heard of these issues.

But seeing as the old 1.9 pd tdi is no longer produced in the newer motors you just have to go with it.

 

Renault - terrible dci engines but for 2 years.

Ford - shocking, apart from the 1.6 hdi Citroen lump that went in and that had some big issues

Lexus- 2.2 with head gasket problems, and a head designed so it can't be skimmed

 

Every manufacturer will have a major sticking point. No matter what you choose.

Just gotta buy what you need, the fallout may/may not happen no matter what you drive.

Even my favourite the 1.9pd tdi 130 ASZ engine I've had to replace many turbos and lots of cams and lifters.

 

To buy something you don't want because of potential issues is futile as the issues of anything else lurk.

Edited 3 December, 2017 by Lofty79

[Ootohere]

Buyers need to just be aware, as in the EGR issues many have had to pay out on and pdf, then it turns out that that was possibly caused in part by Defeat Devices, 

then 'The Fix' can cause even more to the premature demise of hardware.

 

 Euro 4 engines certainly can be more desirable than VW Group Euro 5 ones, but then that is the case with other manufacturers engines as well.

Many might avoid a Renault / Mercedes engines from some dates but want a more modern Dacia with a Renault engine for reliability.

 

Where a manufacturer just ignores their lemons, drops them, and moves on and yet the latest versions replacing them still has a fundamental design, manufacturing, component choice and quality control failings in a 2nd or 3rd generation of that engine is just taking the pith.

1.2 TSI no more, 1.4 TSI's going soon, the VW way, move on, people have short memories.

 

VW Group need to get a grip on Water Pumps and Coolant Systems, and if Chains & Chain Tensioners are such a proplem to them and long life belts are the answer, get that right at least, and be honest and clear on Service Schedules / Guidelines and replacements, 

for Owners not just for Fleet buyers / short term ownership but maybe high mileage owners.

Edited 3 December, 2017 by AwaoffSki

[abaxas]

Just a quite note in 110,000 miles out 1.6 CR golf has eated.

A sensor in the DPF

EGR valve

One injector.

That's not exactly bad going it is.

 

[Ootohere]

Perfect for you.

But really rather poor in this day and age, or the past 10 years, OK if VW did a 7 year warranty and had more faith in their components.

 

You would be expecting better surely over just 110,000 miles from people building vehicles for well over 100 years. 

Hundreds of thousands of miles with just servicing and maintenance and no component failings, and a decent economy.

You might wonder why they get that wrong, even with a small percentage of the millions produced.

 

Then how some like a new 1.4 TDI 3 Cylinder can have issues after a century of diesel engines being produced.

 

Is it getting 'The Fix' done or have you had it done?

Edited 3 December, 2017 by AwaoffSki

[abaxas]

I'm sure the VW group could make an engine that almost never breaks down and goes for over 500,000 miles.

I doubt it would pass current emission standards.