10 hours ago, puhleese said:

@Gerrycan. I agree with your comments. I think you should stand by your original comment about 'presence' simply because many seem to mistake my Octavia for being a Commodore until they see the 'badge'. At 70 I went for the RS because life is shorter now than it once was and it is nice to have that little extra under the bonnet with some (maybe that should read most) of the 'drivers' we have here in Sydney! :-)

Australian produced Holden Commodore ceased production late last year. Rear wheel drive and was available with V6 3L or 3.6 L, or V8 6.0L or 6.2L.

A good driving car but I preferred my 7/8 size Octavia, which was about 400 kg lighter and uses half the fuel around town.

Picture to show visual similarity of the two.

 

 

On 11/27/2017 at 11:38, AwaoffSki said:

 

vRS issue is the Skoda issue, just add plastic tat and stickers and trim and more show than go. 

 

 

What stickers are those then?  VRS is pretty restrained to my eyes apart from possibly the 19" wheels.   

 

An important factor in choosing the VRS over a 1.4 might be the IRS on the VRS.  

 

Yes it is rather restrained,  in tarting up and performance, the 230 decal was not much really and easily removed.

But my point still stands on the Skoda issue, more show than actual go, like a Monte Carlo stickers on some models of a Skoda, a Sport on another, R5 limited on one with 125 ps coming out as a tribute to Rally Successes.

 

It was the last Skoda CEO that was the one that thought Looks were more important than performance, and that if anyone wanted as real vRS people should buy an Octavia.

http://topgear.com/car-news/hot-hatch/skoda-will-kill-fabia-vrs 

That was when an Octavia got you all of 220ps,. and if there is no longer orders being taken for the 245 or 230 vRS what comes next?

Maybe a 280 ps Octavia vRS. or a 300ps?

 

More stickered up models needed maybe.

150ps & a Sportsline badge.

Edited 7 February, 20188 yr by AwaoffSki

13 minutes ago, AwaoffSki said:

 

 

More stickered up models needed maybe.

150ps & a Sportsline badge.

 

Probably.

 

We may end up with the fastest model being the Scout DSG for a while.

 

Lee

Gee I didn't realise that Skoda were the only car manufacturer to produce stickered models.

A day is not complete without more BS.

No they are not the only manufacturer to do this.   Audi S-line, VW R-Line,  even Skoda Scout-line.

But they are really taking the pith with it in many cases. 

 

Add plastic tat and badges, do some advertising..

Do not improve the suspension, raise it, give it all wheel drive, just a name and some extra trim that is quite liable to restrict any ability to go up a farm track.

 

Edited 7 February, 20188 yr by AwaoffSki

You missed Bugatti, Lamborgini, Bentley, Ducati and Seat off your list.

SEAT stick on some tat and badge engineer pretty modest vehicles. 

As Ford do with ST-Line.

Vauxhall / Opel as well.

 

Bugatti, Lamborghini, Bentley and Ducati are not just giving fancy trim levels & badge engineering and fitting cheap parts and having some customers think there is some improved performance are they?

Edited 7 February, 20188 yr by AwaoffSki