20 hours ago, AwaoffSki said:

andyvee,

did Simpsons put the car out without oil in the engine as posted in this thread?  Or is it just you were told they did?

Simpsons handed the car and keys back with no oil in the engine is what I was told by the owner - obviously I can't verify that as I wasn't with Damo at the time

 

Pretty sure he has posted it on here, but at the time I was working at the same company so saw him every day .......

I linked in the 2nd link, the tip off the Spark Plug, the heavily oiled plug.

Actually carboned up plug, from the engine in a car that was gubbed altready.

Edited 12 January, 20188 yr by AwaoffSki

21 hours ago, AwaoffSki said:

andyvee,

did Simpsons put the car out without oil in the engine as posted in this thread?  Or is it just you were told they did?

I stand partially corrected

 

 

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I was sent on my way (to pick my mum up 15 miles away) and thought I would check the oil level when I got there... Low and behold it was bone dry... nothing showing on the dipstick... Yes, I took a vehicle with an oil consumption issue and was given the vehicle back with no oil!!! despite the paperwork stating otherwise.

 

So the engine didn't go bang 100 yards down the road, he drove 15 miles with no oil in it!

 

Anyway, I'll be accused of having a personal axe to grind.

 

The point I was originally making is lots of people quote Simpsons as having excellent lease deals - any half decent Skoda dealer with a Fleet department can match or better the published Simpsons deals - they all buy the cars at the same price and use the same leasing company .........

 

Obviously, the rest was personal 'opinion' of why I would never darken their doors again, backed up with facts. I didn't go in to my rather lengthy issues with them over the car I purchased, they were well documented at the time and another dealer did exactly the opposite of what Simpsons were saying and fixed the issues eventually - shame I had to get Milton Keynes Technical and Skoda Executive Office involved as I was being fobbed off due to their own errors.

OK as your friend knows and knew nothing on the Dip Stick in the Twincharger engines with failures is common, 3.6 litre capacity, 

Oil pressure light often on before a low oil level light, and that can be still 1.5 litres low. 

ie more than a 1/3 under the Oil Quantity,  and that is not No Oil or Bone dry.

If 3.6 litres were put in and the car was a faulty one then 1.3-1.5 litres low and no Warning Light or message is still 

over 2 litres and the orange bottom ball dry.

After 15 miles you know how low by how many litres require to bring to the top of the cross hatch again.

If no oil in that would be near 3.6 litres.

Obviously.

 

Someone that was trying to reject the car and knew all about them at the time should not have been surprised.

Oil consumption tests often done wrong, by many Dealership Employees. 

1 litre being 857 grams not the 1,000 grams some muppets thought it was.   So mistakes, many mistakes, and out of 1,800 CAVE engine Skoda Twincharger over 25% failures.

http://www.revotechnik.com/support/technical/14tsi-twincharger-engine-issues 

 

 

3.6 Litres of Engine oil even in a container does not weigh 3,600 grams. (or 3,643 even.)

But then that is why Skoda often replace engines when Factory Trained Technicians make the simplest errors.

Edited 12 January, 20188 yr by AwaoffSki

All I can go off is what I was told at the time and what is written above - no oil - whether that means absolutely no oil, or no oil showing on dipstick is fairly irrelevant as he was charged for the oil after the consumption test, but it didn't appear to be in the engine after 15 miles ..........

 

Anyway, all off topic  I think the point has been overdone now

We all have places, shops, brands we won't use for various reasons. I think it's ok to voice those and share.

 

I've also had a few legal threats, you know people see negative comments move the legal team in before asking of themselves, perhaps we can improve.

 

Well I won't go near simpsons either, tried to buy a car, tried to get sales, no nadda, nothing. If they can't be bothered with sales, I can't recommend them either.

 

Now water has past under the bridge, different times, internet prices, where I get my car does not actually matter to me anymore, just the price. This is a new car! A used one where matters more than anything else!

 

The brokers offers can be beaten. Why? They are charging the dealer a paperwork fee. Remember everyone needs to eat, it's in the region of 250 to 300 pounds, you're paying this in some way.

 

It's always best to go to a dealer directly. Some won't budge, some will. However one crucial thing woth sKoda, and I understand VAG generally is that PCH isn't part of the target for bonuses. So the incentive to push and deal isn't that great. It's why folks like Simpsons get good deals, to get the traffic and volume I reckon. But they don't have to make a loss on them to claw back on a bonus later.

 

That may of changed, but that's how it was last year.

 

Skoda are not the same as they once were, were also not the same group. We are generally of a similar mind, but do have differences. We're not all going to get on and new folk; we were all new once, are just as welcome as the oldest, grey, number 7 member id on here. We just have to remember, it's a big world, were a good sized community, not every gear/person will mesh first time every time.

 

 

 

On 11/01/2018 at 21:19, andyvee said:

Definitely whole story not posted

 

That car did go through a set of plugs a week though

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Edited 13 January, 20188 yr by Evil Miyagi

^^^ ?

Did a Simpsons Workshop hand it over to you will no oil in or low oil not at the 3.6 litre capacity?

23 minutes ago, AwaoffSki said:

^^^ ?

Did a Simpsons Workshop hand it over to you will no oil in or low oil not at the 3.6 litre capacity?

 

It was handed back with no oil indicated on the dip stick..

 

this only became apparent when I had driven 15 miles and turned the ignition off and back on again after waiting for my mum... when it was turned back on the oil light warning came on and I checked the level to see the dip stick was bone dry...

 

I cant remember the exact timeline now (I’ve had about 6 cars since) but this incident didn’t result in engine failure but I believe it contributed.

 

As far as I’m concerned it’s done and in the past, I don’t drive a Skoda anymore (Not because of this issue) and still recommend the brand.

Edited 13 January, 20188 yr by Evil Miyagi

The car went and was last seen surrounded by armed police in Sheffield 

On 13/01/2018 at 15:04, Evil Miyagi said:

The car went and was last seen surrounded by armed police in Sheffield 

LOL

Anyway back to leasing...... 

 

PCH deal £258.04 incl VAT, on a 3+35 10k miles deal.  Initial rental £774.12, plus additional fees (which annoyingly they all seem to do now) of £238.80 for a 2.0 TDI SE 4x4 the same deal over 24 months is £8 a month cheaper.

 

https://www.purevehicleleasing.co.uk/cars/manufacturers/skoda/kodiaq-diesel-estate/2-0-tdi-se-4x4-5dr?order=asc&orderby=rental&initial_rental=3&term=36&mileage=10000&budget_min=&budget_max=&manufacturer_code=+10172&range_code=+1336&body_style_alt=&fuel_type=&engine_size=&co2=300&consumption=0&transmission=&doors=       

 

 

8 minutes ago, Shhhkoda said:

Anyway back to leasing...... 

 

PCH deal £258.04 incl VAT, on a 3+35 10k miles deal.  Initial rental £774.12, plus additional fees (which annoyingly they all seem to do now) of £238.80 for a 2.0 TDI SE 4x4 the same deal over 24 months is £8 a month cheaper.

 

https://www.purevehicleleasing.co.uk/cars/manufacturers/skoda/kodiaq-diesel-estate/2-0-tdi-se-4x4-5dr?order=asc&orderby=rental&initial_rental=3&term=36&mileage=10000&budget_min=&budget_max=&manufacturer_code=+10172&range_code=+1336&body_style_alt=&fuel_type=&engine_size=&co2=300&consumption=0&transmission=&doors=       

 

 

NB Prices are set quarterly and generally cheapest the last quarter of the year i.e from October onwards