I was in London yesterday and out of interest ran Speedtest on my phone just to see what difference there might be to my local area. Didn't expect this and it would have been higher (up to 400Mbps) if I'd tried it in an outdoor location!

 

Can't wait to see that technology rolled out on a wider scale in the interim to 5G.

 

 

38 minutes ago, john999boy said:

I was in London yesterday and out of interest ran Speedtest on my phone just to see what difference there might be to my local area. Didn't expect this and it would have been higher (up to 400Mbps) if I'd tried it in an outdoor location!

 

Can't wait to see that technology rolled out on a wider scale in the interim to 5G.

 

 

Once more people start connecting to the network that speed will drop - because of the way that 4G works there is a certain bandwidth per cell that is shared between all active users - so enjoy it while it lasts!

4G+/double data speed is great where available, and not all EE plans have it. 

 

Typically only in cities or large towns. 

 

EE did have a page detailing availability. Last I saw before Christmas, there's only 50 locations so far. 

 

 

They'd be better off putting up more masts to provide better coverage instead of making the crap network faster.

I'm with EE and the speed is great....when you can get it. I travel all over the country and find that in many hotels I can't even get 4G in at least 50% of cases :( I currently live in Manchester and the 4G is so weak in my house I got a free 3G transmitter to connect to my router (obviously wifi calls have taken over from  this). Iput some of this down to the fact that EE are using the higher frequency and as such it has a poorer building penetration than the lower frequencies.

 

I have an S8 and 4G+ om contract  

5G's on it's way, no idea when but all those Freeview retunes that were needed a few weeks back?
Done to open up the airwaves for 5G.

6 hours ago, Lee01 said:

5G's on it's way, no idea when but all those Freeview retunes that were needed a few weeks back?
Done to open up the airwaves for 5G.

5G will use 700MHz (being freed up by all the Freeview retunes, with more to come), 3.6GHz and 26GHz - don't expect great coverage from either of the two higher frequencies as the range from those will be tiny (think how short the range is for the 5GHz signal from your home router...).

I'm expecting a lot of people to find their phone gets hot and the battery fails within the day, even if they don't use it. High frequency RF has too many compromises to be used in phones imho :(

32 minutes ago, Lady Elanore said:

I'm expecting a lot of people to find their phone gets hot and the battery fails within the day, even if they don't use it. High frequency RF has too many compromises to be used in phones imho :(

Great for cooking men's bits though 

Lightly sauteed men's bits! Might not make it to Masterchef 

2 hours ago, Lady Elanore said:

High frequency RF has too many compromises to be used in phones imho :(

+1

Propagation losses increase with the cube of the frequency, so at 26GHz the power will have to be immense to get any range more than a few metres - and even at 3.6GHz the situation won't be great. But at least the frequencies are further away from the resonant frequency of water (which is how microwave ovens work) so the cooking effect on mes' (and women's) bits will be lower than the current 2GHz frequency used by 3G.

 

The "powers that be" are so focussed on data rates they are completely forgetting about the RF power that will be needed.

Ha ha. I just realised your handle of SWBoy may refer to South West Boy rather than Short Wave Boy  Doh!!

16 minutes ago, Lady Elanore said:

Ha ha. I just realised your handle of SWBoy may refer to South West Boy rather than Short Wave Boy  Doh!!

But before retirement I did used to be Chief Engineer for one of the mobile phone infrastructure companies, so I have to declare an interest

38 minutes ago, Lady Elanore said:

Ha ha. I just realised your handle of SWBoy may refer to South West Boy rather than Short Wave Boy  Doh!!

 

<Pedant alert>

Funnily enough, short wave frequencies are actually a very long way away from the 4G+ frequencies!

I work with a fair bit of RF gear, although it comes neatly packaged in a ready to go box most of the time (Radio IEMs, Radio Mics, Radio talkbacks etc)

Just now, john999boy said:

 

<Pedant alert>

Funnily enough, short wave frequencies are actually a very long way away from the 4G+ frequencies!

 

 

Where was my disclaimer button when I needed it