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Mk1 rear hubs / drums - couple of questions

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Hi folks.  

 

A quick 'un-seize the handbrake before MOT' job on my new-to-me 05 1.4TDi has turned into new drums / slaves / shoes.  Ugg.  Following Mr Haynes, I got a big tube out, heaved on the big nuts and took the hubs off to facilitate access.

 

Questions:

1) Bearing pairs (taper rollers or something else?) appear to handle their own end-float, since it seems the big nut just gets done up *real tight* against the two inners back to the shoulder on the axle.  Am I missing anything? One side is a bit stiff - I guess I might replace the bearings if blowing all the crap away makes no odds - anything weird to know?  It seems there is a motion sensor ring for abs on the hub which i ought not to clout with a big hammer / squash in the vice.   

   

2) Shoes (assuming spring hold-back retainers are not rusted to goodness and slaves push straight and true - well, we can hope the rebuild fixes something!) are meant to run on 3 plastic (?) buttons per shoe.  These are well chewey.  I have some nylon (or f*ck it, brass) and a lathe, but I am fast running out of enthusiasm - make new ones and glue them in or wipe a smear of copperslip over the remains and put it back together when the bits turn up?

 

I am old and although I'm experienced I fix things like it's 1987.  Hence the questions.

thanks

Mark, Manchester

    

You just pop the rear hub bearing unit onto the stub axle and torque it up to the correct settings and that's it. The endfloat is preset. The hub bearing unit is not designed to be dismantled. And yes, the unit does contain the ABS ring.

 

New bearings come like this...

 

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The plastic 'glide pads' need renewing if they are worn. Part number 6N0609589

 

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I did my brakes with a kit that came with the shoes with springs already attached, and new wheel cylinders.

 

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That's really helpful - thanks, particularly for taking the time to assemble those photos.  Where do you tend to go for weird little bits with long part numbers?  Not sure local factors will get so involved, and I have never got involved with dealerships.  (Most consumables seem to be on ebay; pair of hubs was under 40 quid which is not so bad for 4 bearings.  I would never have guessed they don't press out from the hub if you hadn't told me).  I didn't know pre-assembled shoes were a thing, which suggests I'm going to stab myself and loose all the skin on my knuckles making the ones I have ordered up into sets.  

 

Anything weird to know about bleeding on this one?  Last time I replaced a slave ('97 Felicia) I managed to wring the end off the copper brake pipe which was seized into the gland nut, and while annealing it for forming a new mushroom I had burning fluid erupting from the end of the system...  :-)  

 

(These questions are at least in part about me tiptoeing around the electronics in this thing and not wanting to f*ck it up for want of some piece of knowledge I am missing - like Haynes telling me about the abs sensor ring).

No probs at all :)

 

I get a lot of my parts on ebay. There are couple of Skoda dealers selling on there too.

 

I have also had a lot of parts from these people...

 

http://www.skodaparts.com/

 

Whenever I bleed my brakes I use a Gunson Eezibleed and have never had a problem. Metal brake pipes can sometimes turn to crap when dismantling as you have said but I have my own flaring kit and just make a new pipes. I haven't had to do it on my Fabia yet though as they came undone without issue. Some car shops can make up new pipes if you measure the length.

 

 

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Thanks again - that part number saved a lot of paddling about in nylon swarf.   

 

While the thing is balanced up on blocks I may even fit the towbar I've had hanging about for ages, and do something about the expanses of bodywork underneath which seem never to have encountered any under-seal.  

 

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