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My 190bhp DSG Superb has reached 70K and is out of warranty.  I would like to replacement front & rear brake pads and would like to know if I have the correct information.  I have replaced pads on numerous cars in the past. Fronts: Am I right to assume that the caliper pistons can be just pushed back (with an eye on the fluid level in the master cylinder)  as with "normal" cars?  Rears: I have an OBDeleven gadget.  Am I right to assume that because of the electric handbrake I use this gadget to put the caliper into "service mode" which releases the pistons to allow me to just push them back? Do I have to keep the ignition on whilst carrying out the replacement? Once fitted I assume there is a setting on the OBDeleven to reactivate the electric handbrake.  Are my assumptions correct and does anyone have any tips to make the process trouble free?  I have searched this and other forums for guidance but not found any.

Only just got my car but wouldnt mind knowing myself as well

8 hours ago, MChris said:

My 190bhp DSG Superb has reached 70K and is out of warranty.  I would like to replacement front & rear brake pads and would like to know if I have the correct information.  I have replaced pads on numerous cars in the past. Fronts: Am I right to assume that the caliper pistons can be just pushed back (with an eye on the fluid level in the master cylinder)  as with "normal" cars?  Rears: I have an OBDeleven gadget.  Am I right to assume that because of the electric handbrake I use this gadget to put the caliper into "service mode" which releases the pistons to allow me to just push them back? Do I have to keep the ignition on whilst carrying out the replacement? Once fitted I assume there is a setting on the OBDeleven to reactivate the electric handbrake.  Are my assumptions correct and does anyone have any tips to make the process trouble free?  I have searched this and other forums for guidance but not found any.

 

@MartiniB has downloadable Superb III workshop manual in dropbox. Maybe it would help?

https://www.drive2.com/l/493938282543972532/

Edited by alf.onso

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Thanks both.  The downloadable manual didn't cover the braking system.  I have a downloaded manual but it is not abundantly clear enough to answer my questions (too technical).  The youtube videos are useful although didn't fully cover my questions.  i.e. Why do you have to draw off some fluid when retracting the front pistons?  As long as the fluid doesn't overflow in the master cylinder why not just push the pistons back?

I am guessing that it gets rid of any fluid that maybe slightly contaminated near the bleed nipple.

3 hours ago, MChris said:

The downloadable manual didn't cover the braking system

Try using Adobe Reader to view the pdf manual and search (ctrl +f) for "Removing and installing brake linings" - page 1639 on my copy for a relevant hit ( make sure you are on the right part of the manual for your model - sections repeat).  Since there is no instruction to open the bleed nipple and a warning to lower the master cylinder fluid level to prevent overflow then Skoda are happy to push fluid back through the system??

Because the superb has electronically controlled braking (front assist, abs, hill hold, ACC, xdl, esr etc etc) it is highly advisable NOT to push fluid back through the system. The calipers are often full of crud from corrosion and any of that getting in the control hydraulics could be an expensive mistake. Plus seals and check valves could be damaged.

I always open the brake nipple before pushing pistons back, there is usually a lot of black muck that comes out before it goes clear.

Don't clamp hoses, I think that's a recipe for damage.

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I have found the relevant parts in the manual (massive document - over 4000 pages) and it appears to be very helpful. While it doesn't say about opening the bleed nipple I can see the sense in doing that.  I assume this won't let air in.

1 hour ago, MChris said:

 While it doesn't say about opening the bleed nipple I can see the sense in doing that.  I assume this won't let air in.

 

I attach my basic laser 2906 bleed kit (consists of plastic pipe into a container so end of pipe is in fluid) and crack open the nipple, push the piston back forcing fluid out and close the nipple straight away so no air is drawn in. 

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That sounds like a good idea.  I will do that.  Thanks.

  • 2 years later...
On 09/08/2018 at 08:45, alf.onso said:

 

@MartiniB has downloadable Superb III workshop manual in dropbox. Maybe it would help?

https://www.drive2.com/l/493938282543972532/

Hello, would you like to share again thr workshop manuals for superb 3 with us? The old link doesn't work anymore. Thank you! 

On 24/05/2021 at 14:33, MartiniB said:

But I will insist with a more specific question. The car that I am driving is a Super 3 2016 2.0 dsg6. I can not find the service manuals on the russian website that you have quote. would you like to be kind and share other sources?

10 hours ago, DragosIonuts said:

I would like to thank you, dear sir!

Thanks!
But that weren't published by me, i just bookmarked interesting link

 

link looks alive:

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