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Last week I decided to change the oil filter on my 2011 Superb V6 AWD. First time I have done it as, although quite capable, it has been ca company car and dealer serviced until recently, plus I have other vehicles so don't put up lots of kms. I have recently retired so now have the time to look after it myself.  Being a V6, it has the filter hanging down underneath, not on top like my Touareg V6 diesel I also have.

 

I didn't have the 36mm socket required but figured that it could be removed carefully with an oil filter band clamp or wrench.  Have done so on the Touarg, although that has the filter on top. I drained the oil, but when I went to change the filter, I couldn't remove it using those methods, it was incredibly tight (so was the sump plug).  I understand the spec for the filter cover is 10nm, so just hand tight really.  So I drained it using the filter drain plug, and put in new oil.  I have now bought the correct socket.

 

My question is: if I remove the filter drain plug to just drain the filter (so I can replace it)  will it also drain the engine oil or will flow stop once the filter is drained?

 

BTW, my car has done 105,000kms and has needed nothing but servicing and tyres, except for a passenger seat electrical control module under warranty.  Everything works as it should, except a VCDS check suggests a problem has just  arisen with the alarm horn not communicating.  Could be a  one-off, hopefully, so will recheck soon.  I like the Superb so much, it is the only car I have ever kept past the end of its company lease - over 3 years now. While I no longer need a wagon (the kids have grown up and I have the Touareg as well for towing and offroad), I can't see any reason to replace it - yet.   Except perhaps for a Boxster.........

Never seen a filter drain plug, where is it?

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43 minutes ago, SuperbTWM said:

Never seen a filter drain plug, where is it?

In the base of the oil filter housing on the V6, low on the passenger .  It is a small metal plug like a mini sump plug which uses a 6mm hex key to remove.  A retired mechanic friend says they are common in VW and BMW cars when the filter housing hangs downwards.  Smart really, as you can drain the oil then the filter without much mess when you remove it.

8 hours ago, powerd said:

In the base of the oil filter housing on the V6, low on the passenger .  It is a small metal plug like a mini sump plug which uses a 6mm hex key to remove.  A retired mechanic friend says they are common in VW and BMW cars when the filter housing hangs downwards.  Smart really, as you can drain the oil then the filter without much mess when you remove it.

You will be safe draining it if it’s on the filter housing as oil  will be in the sump at the lowest point. 

 

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37 minutes ago, SuperbTWM said:

You will be safe draining it if it’s on the filter housing as oil  will be in the sump at the lowest point. 

 

OK Superb TWM I will give it a go. Cheers

12 hours ago, powerd said:

VCDS check suggests a problem has just  arisen with the alarm horn not communicating.  Could be a  one-off, hopefully, so will recheck soon.

 

There was a thread on the alarm horn having faults, its location etc recently. Might be worth you having a look? 

 

There was also some information posted here that these horn/sirens (at ;east on some cars) have a battery that fails and this means the horn has only a circa 5 year lifespan before it has to be replaced.

 

Alarm Horn fault thread

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TRK - yes, I have had a look around the threads and links and it seems it is almost certainly a failed battery.  Price at local dealer is A$406 so pretty pricey for something that is likely to need replacement every 6-10 years. The battery is not replaceable - at least without serious dismantling and being able to find a replacement.  And a used one is not really viable as it may be close to fail anyway.

 

Currently chasing a better price overseas - may have some luck with that.  As I live in an area where theft of modern cars at least is pretty much unheard of, I may not bother.

15 hours ago, powerd said:

 

Currently chasing a better price overseas 


Try Aliexpress  just check the part numbers are correct

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Thanks Delboy, will give it a try.  Just to be certain, I am going to pull the wheelarch cover to check the part number first, just to be sure.

37 minutes ago, powerd said:

 I am going to pull the wheelarch cover to check the part number first,


Thought reading the other threads that is was located under scuttle panel
Pic stolen from  thread answered by @a666andy

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Thanks again.  I was working off info from another site which suggested it was under the guard right up inside the wheelarch.  Maybe that was for a different model.  I will pull off the scuttle panel and check, have done that before to clean out debris and its easy.    Raining solidly today so have to wait until next week now.

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Hi All

 

With some difficulty, I managed to remove the plenum cover and the protector cover over the mesh covered vent and alarm in the right corner below the screen (RHD).  My engine bay being a 3.6FSI is a bit different to the one shown above eg  battery is in boot, the airbox takes that space.  

 

However, the part number on mine is different - 1K8 951 605 B.  This also appears to be the part number for certain VWs of the period.  The number in posts above seems to be common to Octavia and Superb and various VW/Audi cars, but maybe not the 3.6 V6?  My alarm has the internal movement sensor - could this be the difference?  Does anyone know if the two horns are interchangeable without causing problems?  I don't seem to be able to find any with this part number on the net except for used ones out of VWs.  I only want to buy new.

 

I have contacted skodateile cz (before removing it), but they came back to me with the 1K0 part number.  I have emailed again to see what they say about the new number, but hoping someone here might know.

@powerd
eBay starting at £14 second hand worth a punt:biggrin:

i know you want to buy new but even if it works for a couple of years

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Thanks DEL80Y  Generally I prefer to put in new parts unless I have no alternative eg with my Jaguar XJS sometimes.  Hate redoing the same job.  And I like to keep my main cars (ie not hobby vehicles) like new, so if something isn't right, I fix it to as new.

 

The other issue is that postage from the UK is really expensive, so the cost of some of those used ones posted is not all that far off buying a new one from skodateile in the Czech Republic, including postage.  I have sent them an email asking if the can supply that part number.  I'll let you know when they reply.

 

I have looked at parts prices for my Triumph motorbike in the UK and they are so cheap compared to here in Australia.  But the postage is the real killer, sadly.

 

We do tend to get ripped off for parts prices here, particularly for euro cars.  It is often much cheaper to import them yourself if you can wait.  Funnily getting  stuff posted from the US or Asia can be as quick or quicker and cheaper post than sourcing locally.  Weird.

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And in news just in..........

 

From searching a range of sites, it seems that the 1K8.... part number may have been superceded by  the 1K0 951 605C, plus there seem to be several other similar part numbers that are listed as alternatives (or possibly other replaced numbers.  This 1K0 ... number seems like it might be the latest in the series.

 

If so, this is good news as it is available for 57 Euros shipped to Oz from Skodateile.  They seem to have some excellent parts prices.  I am pondering fitting the steering wheel with paddles for the DSG to mine, an easy job if you can recode the CANBUS system (I have VCDS so I can)  and their price is about 30% posted of the Australian price for the wheel.

Why not open up the alarm Horn and replace the battery?

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SuperbTWM.  I did a bit of research on the net and it doesn't seem like this is really a viable option.  Firstly it seems to be a sealed unit so has to be forced open and may be difficult to reseal.  Secondly the battery is integrated on the circuit board and is a non-standard unit.  From what I read, a a chap in Russia managed to do it, but had to modify the board to take a different battery. 

 

If you had seen my electrical and soldering soldering skills, you would not be suggesting this approach!  :))

 

If I can get it for 57 Euros, that is a hugely better option and will save much time I can use to build my house, which is my big (indeed HUGE, given my marginal talents) project at the moment.

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