Hi,

I just joined today to get some advice about my recently acquired Scout.

 

Having had a bad experience over the last year with DPF problems in a diesel car, I dumped it and bought a 70,000 mile 2011 petrol Scout on August 1st.

It had a service including oil change before I collected it from the dealer, and it was great.

 

Driving it home, the person who was driving alongside me, (gave me a lift to the seller), noticed the car was smoking on occasion, but I thought no more about it.

 

2 weeks later, I was driving round town to work, and the red oil light came on, along with the warning beep.

I stopped immediately and let the car settle for a few minutes and went to dip the oil.

I was shocked to see no oil on the dipstick, so rang the seller to say I had a problem. He said to buy some more oil and they'd refund me.

I couldn't decide if there was a problem or a mistake with the oil change. 

I had done 470 miles since collection, and it took 2.5 litres to get the oil filed to the right level on the dipstick. 

 

I can see a puff of smoke when accelerating after taking my foot off, there are black spots all over the tailgate, and the exhaust tips are black.

 

I have checked the oil every couple of days and it has needed further topping up over the last 10 days; I've now done about 800 miles.

 

I have now put 4 litres of 5W30 fully synthetic oil of the correct type (VW code is on the bottle) in since this came to light.

 

Last Wednesday I phoned to reject the car under the Consumer Rights Act 2015 due to this fault, particularly as I have read a lot on here and elsewhere about CDAA engines and oil consumption.

I have emailed and text this to them too; they want to do a warranty repair, which I am not going to accept, as it is within 30 days and I have statutory rights.

 

To make sure I am not missing anything, I took it to a local garage yesterday who know about these engines, and they confirmed that it was burning oil, and said that the oil separator was not working any more.

Rather than mist, there was noticeable oil in its outlet pipe to the inlet manifold.

 

I think that it would be naive to hope that a replacement oil separator would solve the problem, as it may be another casualty of problematic oil control rings.

 

I love the car, but am sure it has to go for fear of worse to come.

 

Please let me know your thoughts    

4 litres in under 1000 miles. That would even fail skodas ridiculously high acceptable oil usage tolerance.

 

Sure the faulty fine oil separator could cause some usage but my view is not 4 litres in under 1000 miles...

Thanks for chipping in, I did think it was way beyond even 'generous' limits!

 

The oil separator being the only culprit was an outline hope, but not knowing the engine, I wasn't sure.

 

Back it has to go 😢 

It is fortunate you have found the problem within statutory return periods. Many come on here just outside them, only discovering after a few months that their new motor uses litres of oil...

PCV valve or the rocker cover (which has an oil labrynth in it - the glue fails and the labrynth detaches from the rocker cover).

 

I'd give the dealer a chance to change both these items (insist on both) under a written and signed proviso that if the consumption isn't reduced to a maximum of 100ml/1,000km they take the car back or have the engine rebuilt professionally.  

I have  an EA888 1.8tsi and it uses about 200ml of 5w-30 every 10,000km.

7 hours ago, brad1.8T said:

PCV valve or the rocker cover (which has an oil labrynth in it - the glue fails and the labrynth detaches from the rocker cover).

 

I'd give the dealer a chance to change both these items (insist on both) under a written and signed proviso that if the consumption isn't reduced to a maximum of 100ml/1,000km they take the car back or have the engine rebuilt professionally.  

I have  an EA888 1.8tsi and it uses about 200ml of 5w-30 every 10,000km.

With the amount of oil the OP has topped up and the black deposits on the car, i doubt it's the PCV oil seperater, it's clear it piston rings at fault, puff of smoke also points to this. The only repair i would except from the seller is a new later design engine or a factory remanufactured engine, as these have a better piston ring design and the gudgen pins,small end and big end bearings were changed to better suit the 5w30 long life oil.

 

Also in the case changing to 5w40 won't help as the engine is to far gone.