Need new tyres pretty soon

 

original tyres are approaching 10k miles and are shot on the front, fwd seat leon 1.5tsi.

 

the car is not a fast performance car and has somehow still managed to burn these tyres off in 10k miles on the front.

 

the original tyres supplied from seat were some form of bridgestone potenza’s. I do not rate these tyres at all. Poor wet grip and obviously have not lasted very long indeed.

 

i do not need super grippy £200 a corner tyres for this absolute performance beast.

 

just something half decent, decent wet grip especially as we are coming into winter and something that will last longer than 10k on the front

 

 

suggestions please

Edited 29 August, 20196 yr by BigJase88

On my last car I got fed up buying premium rubber and tried Avon ZV7's from Black Circles, they get pretty good reviews and I was very happy with them. I didn't notice any real difference v's premium tyres (was on a 215 bhp Saab) For your size they are £77.88 ea but if you buy 2 get £10 off, buy 4 get £20 off. So 4 fitted would be £290, or 2 £158. 

 

I'm tempted by the offer on Dunlop Sport Max because they are much quieter than other tyres but come in at £82 ea fitted if you buy a pair, also from Black Circles. 

8 minutes ago, VRS_White_Hatch said:

On my last car I got fed up buying premium rubber and tried Avon ZV7's from Black Circles, they get pretty good reviews and I was very happy with them. I didn't notice any real difference v's premium tyres (was on a 215 bhp Saab) For your size they are £77.88 ea but if you buy 2 get £10 off, buy 4 get £20 off. So 4 fitted would be £290, or 2 £158. 

 

I'm tempted by the offer on Dunlop Sport Max because they are much quieter than other tyres but come in at £82 ea fitted if you buy a pair, also from Black Circles. 

Had avon’s once before ZZ3’s i think they were back in the day. Couldn’t fault them at all.

 

would like a tyre that could last 15-20k on the front. If there is even a tyre available that can do that?

 

this car only has 130bhp and not very much torque

Edited 29 August, 20196 yr by BigJase88

Just had 4 Michelin PS4 fitted at ATS for £332

10 hours ago, BigJase88 said:

 

would like a tyre that could last 15-20k on the front. If there is even a tyre available that can do that?

 

this car only has 130bhp and not very much torque

 

I've not had a tyre lest any less than 20k. Last set of Michelin 'something-something' (not a budget but not super performance either) went to 38 before I sold them with 3-4mm tread depth remaining.

 

Without teaching you to suck eggs, how often to do check pressures and rotate the wheels?  Maybe get a 4 wheel alignment too?  10k is a very short life for a tyre like that.

3 hours ago, MarkyG82 said:

 

I've not had a tyre lest any less than 20k. Last set of Michelin 'something-something' (not a budget but not super performance either) went to 38 before I sold them with 3-4mm tread depth remaining.

 

Without teaching you to suck eggs, how often to do check pressures and rotate the wheels?  Maybe get a 4 wheel alignment too?  10k is a very short life for a tyre like that.

I never do motorway miles though

 

majority of my mileage I would say 50% B roads and 50% A roads

I never rotate wheels and pressure of tyres is checked once a month

 

I usually get 8-10k on the fronts and around 20-30k on the rears

oh and no need for 4 wheel alignment as the car was brand new and I haven't hit anything that would warrant checking, no major potholes and steering wheel is bang centre and drives as straight as an arrow

 

mileage on car right now is 9,300 miles

Edited 30 August, 20196 yr by BigJase88

Goodyear Efficient Grip performance.  I fitted them to my remapped Leon Mk3 FR and they were fantastic in all conditions and wear rate was also very good; I was getting 18-20K miles from the fronts and I replace at ~3mm so could have easily done a few thousand more miles.  I actually rate them as better than the Eagle F1's.

 

https://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/goodyear/efficientgrip-performance/225/40/R18/W/92/f?tyre=32248041

 

 

 

9 hours ago, penguin17 said:

Goodyear Efficient Grip performance.  I fitted them to my remapped Leon Mk3 FR and they were fantastic in all conditions and wear rate was also very good; I was getting 18-20K miles from the fronts and I replace at ~3mm so could have easily done a few thousand more miles.  I actually rate them as better than the Eagle F1's.

 

https://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/goodyear/efficientgrip-performance/225/40/R18/W/92/f?tyre=32248041

 

 

 

Might just give these a try

Narrowed it down to 3 tyres

225/40/18 (x2)

 

option 1 - Yokohama BluEarth AE50 - £157 fitted

option 2 - Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance - £164.62 fitted

option 3 - Uniroyal RS3 - £174

 

I'm edging towards the yoko's have had them before and was quite impressed with grip and quietness from the tyre. Also the cheapest of the 3. Got a couple of weeks to think about it as I still have a little tread left

18 hours ago, BigJase88 said:

Narrowed it down to 3 tyres

225/40/18 (x2)

 

option 1 - Yokohama BluEarth AE50 - £157 fitted

option 2 - Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance - £164.62 fitted

option 3 - Uniroyal RS3 - £174

 

I'm edging towards the yoko's have had them before and was quite impressed with grip and quietness from the tyre. Also the cheapest of the 3. Got a couple of weeks to think about it as I still have a little tread left

 

Are you saying your shortlist is 3 summer tyres, for use in Scotland, rather than all seasons for all year use.

 

If you want Yokohama BluEarth I would have thought the 4S AW21 are better choice than AE50 although about £10 per tyre more

 

 

16 minutes ago, SurreyJohn said:

 

Are you saying your shortlist is 3 summer tyres, for use in Scotland, rather than all seasons for all year use.

 

If you want Yokohama BluEarth I would have thought the 4S AW21 are better choice than AE50 although about £10 per tyre more

 

 

The tyres will be used all year round.

 

I have run winter tyres before and they still don't stop you crashing in adverse conditions (been there)

Plus winter tyres when it gets warmer "burn off" in no time at all, and the road noise is generally horrendous

 

I live as close to the English border as possible and weather is never really too bad here, being coastal you very rarely get snow that will lie

 

checked the 4S AW21 and they are £34 a tyre more expensive

Edited 4 September, 20196 yr by BigJase88

All season tyres are generally more expensive too and I don't really want to be spending any more than £150-180 for 2 tyres, I have other things to spend money on.

Just to update this

 

i went with goodyear eagle f1 assymetric 5’s

 

the grip both in the wet and dry is far superior to the awful bridgestone potenza’s they replaced. Even at low speed the car is soo much nicer to drive.

 

downside is increased road noise. But for the extra grip and nicer drive i’ll take that

Edited 8 October, 20196 yr by BigJase88

Hmm - for £11 per corner you could have gone with Bridgestone Weather Control A005’s. All weather tyre, maybe biased towards summer, but with great reviews for winter use in the mixed type of winter weather you would expect in your area of the country.

 

 

On 30/08/2019 at 21:11, BigJase88 said:

I never do motorway miles though

 

majority of my mileage I would say 50% B roads and 50% A roads

I never rotate wheels and pressure of tyres is checked once a month

 

I usually get 8-10k on the fronts and around 20-30k on the rears

oh and no need for 4 wheel alignment as the car was brand new and I haven't hit anything that would warrant checking, no major potholes and steering wheel is bang centre and drives as straight as an arrow

 

mileage on car right now is 9,300 miles

What pressure do you run?

 

Did your tyres wear evenly or on the edges? If on the edges, was it inner and outer or just outer (or inner)?

 

And you usually get 8-10k on the fronts but got 10k this time and it's a problem?

 

And it sounds as though when you do wear out a set of fronts that you put the new tyres back on the front?   Rather than on the rear with the part worn rears to the front.

 

edit:  Which Potenza?  I've had RE050A and they were pretty good for a tyre that came out 15 years ago.  Are you sure it wasn't Turanza which are the devil's work?

 

Edited 11 October, 20196 yr by brad1.8T

57 minutes ago, brad1.8T said:

What pressure do you run?

 

Did your tyres wear evenly or on the edges? If on the edges, was it inner and outer or just outer (or inner)?

 

And you usually get 8-10k on the fronts but got 10k this time and it's a problem?

 

And it sounds as though when you do wear out a set of fronts that you put the new tyres back on the front?   Rather than on the rear with the part worn rears to the front.

 

edit:  Which Potenza?  I've had RE050A and they were pretty good for a tyre that came out 15 years ago.  Are you sure it wasn't Turanza which are the devil's work?

 

I run 34 psi

 

yes new tyres went on the front i know you are meant to have the grippiest tyres on the rear but i just wanted that little more grip on the front for pulling away from junctions in the wet.

 

the rear doesn’t step out so has just enough traction there.

 

the tyres were worn more on the outer edges, remember this is a 10k mile old car and the steering / tracking is bolt on and everything is tight. The reason the tyres have worn like that is because i probably go round bends harder than i should

 

and yes they were bridgestone potenza RE050A

7 hours ago, Expatman said:

Hmm - for £11 per corner you could have gone with Bridgestone Weather Control A005’s. All weather tyre, maybe biased towards summer, but with great reviews for winter use in the mixed type of winter weather you would expect in your area of the country.

 

 

On a budget im afraid.

 

i paid £165 for the eagle f1 assymetric 5’s

 

the weather here never actually gets that bad because i am coastal so nothing every really sticks snow wise

5 hours ago, BigJase88 said:

On a budget im afraid.

 

i paid £165 for the eagle f1 assymetric 5’s

 

the weather here never actually gets that bad because i am coastal so nothing every really sticks snow wise

 

Slight misunderstanding here, all season tyres aren't just for areas that get snow, they are designed to work in rain (including cold rain)

 

Winter tyres will operate upto about +20°c

All season tyres best from about -5°c to +30°c

Summer tyres best from about +5°c to +40°c

 

All will work with diminishing performance outside these ranges (and figures are a guide as every brand varies a bit). 

At lower temperatures lower grip, at higher temperatures tyre gets softer and wear is higher

 

I would guess if you live on the Atlantic coast, your temperature range will be limited by wind off the sea, but you have more chance of say -2°c than +33°c.   More specifically could end up driving through puddles at temperatures below about +7c where summer tyres won't grip very well, as they will be very hard (and the cold water will cool the surface).

 

If you use routes that are salted, then risk with summer tyres goes up, as road can remain damp below zero, so can be driving through puddles at -5°c where there is even less grip.  Not a great idea to be doing 70mph on a motorway on a freezing night with a tyre that will not grip a wet salted surface.

 

Edited 11 October, 20196 yr by SurreyJohn

8 hours ago, BigJase88 said:

On a budget im afraid.

 

i paid £165 for the eagle f1 assymetric 5’s

 

the weather here never actually gets that bad because i am coastal so nothing every really sticks snow wise

Okay - eagle f1 asymmetric 5’s @ £81 each = £162 for 2, Bridgestone Weather Control A005 @ £88 each = £176 for 2. Okay that’s £14 more but you do get the added security SurreyJohn defined in his post above. Of course it’s up to you but bearing in mind the miles you do maybe worth it?

I crashed my work van in snow with 4 winter tyres on it a couple of years ago so how much extra grip do they really give. Im happy with “summer” tyres for the time being

You are probably ok on the summer tyres. Winter tyres are not snow tyres. Chances are you would have come off the road whatever you had fitted unless you have chains/studs.

Worth checking a few YouTube videos of the performance of summer tyres compared to Winter or All Season tyres in adverse conditions, not just snow. Then see if you think they make no difference!

On 11/10/2019 at 16:22, BigJase88 said:

1) I run 34 psi

 

2) yes new tyres went on the front i know you are meant to have the grippiest tyres on the rear but i just wanted that little more grip on the front for pulling away from junctions in the wet.

 

3) the rear doesn’t step out so has just enough traction there.

 

4) the tyres were worn more on the outer edges, remember this is a 10k mile old car and the steering / tracking is bolt on and everything is tight. The reason the tyres have worn like that is because i probably go round bends harder than i should

 

5) and yes they were bridgestone potenza RE050A

1) That's a bit low.  You need around 38-40psi in a 225/40r18.  Yes the ride will be quite firm.   Yes, this is more than what Skoda have written on the fuel flap.

 

2) This implies that you like to take off in a spritely fashion, which may explain the apparently rapid wear.

 

3) The issue is more about rear grip when braking but I've given up arguing the science behind the recommendation and pointing out that the major tyre manufacturers endorse it.  Whatever works for you.

 

4)  Have you ever seen how the RORO drivers hit the ramps?  I used to check alignments on cars as part of the PD.  Some of them were quite a way out.

 

5) I've had 2 sets of RE050A.  I got 35k kilometres (22k miles?) out of the last set and 32k km (20k miles?) on the set before with x-rotate every 10k km.  The corner transition is already low on tread so any edge wear is very noticeable.  I had one guy try and knock back my registration inspection at 5000km because of the edge design.

 

Goodyear F1A is a great tyre.  You should get good mileage out of it.

 

It is quite funny when people that do not live or drive where @BigJase88 does, or that know his car history tries to tell him about different weather and seasons and driving on different tyres.

Edited 14 October, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot

15 minutes ago, Roottootemoot said:

It is quite funny when people that do not live or drive where @BigJase88 does, or that know his car history tries to tell him about different weather and seasons and driving on different tyres.

 

To be fair he was asking for advice on tyre selection and people were offering options based on the information he provided and that he lives in Scotland which is north of the wall so must be covered in ice.