Has anyone had the Emissions Fix carried out on their Euro 5 1.2 TDI since 2016?

How has it gone, positive and no issues or were there issues after having it carried out?

 

On 30/08/2019 at 09:09, Roottootemoot said:

Has anyone had the Emissions Fix carried out on their Euro 5 1.2 TDI since 2016?

How has it gone, positive and no issues or were there issues after having it carried out?

I tried. I called Skoda, booked it in. No problem. A week passed, and I made an journey of over an hour to go to the dealership. Once I arrived, I signed the paperwork, and they said they’d let me know when it was done, and that it would take about 30minutes. No problem. After an hour passed with no contact from them, I went back to the dealership, where I was told that actually, the fix wasn’t out yet! The fix, which was very publicly announced IN 2016, hadn’t been released and they’d let me know when it was. Hmm, smells like male cow excrement to me. Months later, no contact from them. 

 

Don’t bother. The 1.2tdi barely produces more emissions than breathing anyway.

On 30/08/2019 at 20:09, Roottootemoot said:

Has anyone had the Emissions Fix carried out on their Euro 5 1.2 TDI since 2016?

How has it gone, positive and no issues or were there issues after having it carried out?

 

After having it done on the 1.6 CR, I can safely say DONT GET IT DONE! Less torque, feels flimsy, more Regen and more issues overall. 

 

I assume it would be the same on the 1.2 (if there is software for it yet )

8 hours ago, marfrohun said:

 

I assume it would be the same on the 1.2 (if there is software for it yet )

I think that the ‘fix’ is just a software flash on the 1.2, but as it is just a 1.6 with a cylinder lopped off it might have the same issues. 

The EGR is known to fail on the 1.2, (can confirm) and from what I’ve heard it is more common after the fix. 

On 09/10/2019 at 18:38, CS45 said:

 

I went back to the dealership, where I was told that actually, the fix wasn’t out yet! The fix, which was very publicly announced IN 2016, hadn’t been released and they’d let me know when it was. Hmm, smells like male cow excrement to me. Months later, no contact from them.

 

We received our letters recalling our Mk2 1.2TDI Fabia for the emissions fix years ago so this doesn't seem right.  But hardly a problem as I can't imagine that anyone who had done any research would want it done anyway. Hardly any upside - I bet the Nox reductions are minimal in real world conditions - but the likelihood of ongoing frequent and expensive repairs are  a massive downside.

The trouble is that this 'fix' was to lower nox emissions side however this really was only for the USA market as they have stricter rules and regulations on nox levels out there. In Europe the regulation is surprisingly much lower but the VAG decieded that all vehicles should be recalled across the world. 

 

What at amazes me is how does a car's ecu know when it's being tested in a mot? Different parts of the world have different air quality so this effects any engine running parameters including petrol vehicles. If your motor is serviced properly you should not have any problems. 

 

I believe this regen process dumps extra feul in thus causing a 'choking' effect. This in turn dilutes the engine oil and this is where the damage to some parts occur and the VAG group know this. So this is why some owners complain of stalling and acceleration issues. Owners of automatic and these distasterous DSG units struggle as the vehicles ecu will decide when it will go and stop. With a manual car you can open it up with the throttle as these need to be opened up if it's regenerating running around town. It's been mentioned before if you run around at 1500rpm in top gear you wasting your time. It will clog up the tubes especially that EGR valve. Vehicles are meant to driven. But again it's individuals choice.

 

There is probably more emissions coming from the national grid with owners plugging in their electric vehicles these days. For me I don't pay a penny in VED to the chancellor. I knew what I was buying I knew the downside to owning one but touch wood I have never had any problems on the emissions side of things.  So even if it is confirmed that my jam jar has actually had the this fix no issues from this car. 

49 minutes ago, AMBROSIA said:

 

There is probably more emissions coming from the national grid with owners plugging in their electric vehicles these days. For me I don't pay a penny in VED to the chancellor. I knew what I was buying I knew the downside to owning one but touch wood I have never had any problems on the emissions side of things.  So even if it is confirmed that my jam jar has actually had the this fix no issues from this car. 

Glad someone brought this up, as people are just being force fed the idea that electric cars are perfect and green and diesel cars are the spawn of the devil. At this point in time, a Greenline II, ‘fixed’ or not, will go further on an amount of fossil fuel than an electric car will on the same amount of fossil fuel used to produce the electricity. 

The national grid is less efficient than most modern diesels. 

 

So really, I’m not letting not having my car ‘fixed’ play on my conscience. 

My Greenline (1) WAS saving the planet and even had the lowest (At the time) VED available for an oil burner!

 

Now, I am being told the my "ever-so-slightly-higher-then-new-regs", NOX reading is killing kids in their droves, baking the planet and I am a very naughty boy to be using it and if I want to KEEP doing so, will invoke a £12.50 a day charge in the not so distant!

 

So if I am genuinely being so bad for the environment, (Despite being positively URGED to buy this variant initially), Why am I not just banned from the road altogether?

 

Why do Greenpeace, the Government or the likes, simply not swap my car for a nice new plug in and wait a day, drive 70 miles and get stuck on the motorway, towed home by a cloud-puffing truck, plug in for a day again, shiny new battery car?

 

After all, it will cost the world less, according to them, to do this for me, rather then let me continue to drive my kiddy-killer another two years!

 

The funny thing is, my old co2 pumping Yaris, along with MILLIONS of other vehicles, is actually exempt from the ULEZ charge, where my car was supposed to be much cleaner and safer. You can pump out loads more co2's and still get exemption but my NOX fails by 0.00 something of a g per k! an amount barely registered, but a fortune made for someone!

It would be less polluting to maintain my existing car, then to build a new one, full of battery making ingredients and then scrap the one I have. Lets be frank, the new, battery thing will become scrap one day, too and will need a lot of careful recycling of said ingredients. Might even need a new set of batteries mid-life, (Think Pious-sorry, Prius).

 

So, sorry to rant but let them shove the "Fix" right up their exhaust pipes!

2 hours ago, mrgf said:

My Greenline (1) WAS saving the planet and even had the lowest (At the time) VED available for an oil burner!

 

Now, I am being told the my "ever-so-slightly-higher-then-new-regs", NOX reading is killing kids in their droves, baking the planet and I am a very naughty boy to be using it and if I want to KEEP doing so, will invoke a £12.50 a day charge in the not so distant!

 

So if I am genuinely being so bad for the environment, (Despite being positively URGED to buy this variant initially), Why am I not just banned from the road altogether?

 

Why do Greenpeace, the Government or the likes, simply not swap my car for a nice new plug in and wait a day, drive 70 miles and get stuck on the motorway, towed home by a cloud-puffing truck, plug in for a day again, shiny new battery car?

 

After all, it will cost the world less, according to them, to do this for me, rather then let me continue to drive my kiddy-killer another two years!

 

The funny thing is, my old co2 pumping Yaris, along with MILLIONS of other vehicles, is actually exempt from the ULEZ charge, where my car was supposed to be much cleaner and safer. You can pump out loads more co2's and still get exemption but my NOX fails by 0.00 something of a g per k! an amount barely registered, but a fortune made for someone!

It would be less polluting to maintain my existing car, then to build a new one, full of battery making ingredients and then scrap the one I have. Lets be frank, the new, battery thing will become scrap one day, too and will need a lot of careful recycling of said ingredients. Might even need a new set of batteries mid-life, (Think Pious-sorry, Prius).

 

So, sorry to rant but let them shove the "Fix" right up their exhaust pipes!

 

I mean, what else is there to say. We’ve been screwed over for listening to the government back when they were all lovey dovey with diesels instead of buying a V6 petrol Mercedes R Class, which has suddenly gone from being the spawn of the devil to a clean, pure and innocent polar-bear preservation machine. 

 

 

 

With regard to anyone's greenline model it is 'SAVING' the planet because we don't see any other diesels vehicles being hammered by the government. For example farm vehicles, freight diesel trains oh and not forgetting some ships that still use diesel to power them. Will these go electric? Some of these are allowed to be run on the 'red' stuff! 

 

Funny enough some owners like to run thier big oil burners like the TDIV6. But they probably can afford the hideous road tax. Surely these Audi Bmw Range Rover and Skoda crossover 4x4s models are churning out four times as much nox than the greenline models. 

 

The bottom line is that is does not matter what any manufacture does to improve 'emissions' it's an oil burner and putting gadgets, electronics sensors, filters will not clean them up any further. You can blame 'FORD' for introducing 'EGR system' which happened back in the '80s. You can also blame French manufactures as they are the ones that developed and refined their diesel engines and the others followed suit. But now thier government want to ban diesels in Paris by 2020! 

 

If if I had a choice again between a 1.2 three cylinder petrol engine or 1.2 diesel one. It would be diesel variant because I used loan car which was a 1.2 petrol and I was up and down the box all day and also burned double the amount of fuel due to it being very underpowered even with a turbo bolted to it! 

 

Give me a mechanical diesel pump and a throttle cable any day. But those days are gone!

 

Having electric vehicles is not as easy as they state. They don't tell you might have to lease the charging equipment and one replacement battery £1000s? 

 

At at the moment like anything this country is not geared up for this! When it does kick off watch everyone's electric bills rise steeply when the national grid cannot cope! 

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