Hello everyone

 

I'm sure someone somewhere has covered this but I can't find it.

 

Car in question is a 2007 Octavia Elegance Estate 2.0 FSi Auto with Stream radio fitted.

 

I've got my hands on a MFSW from a Superb, I've changed the airbag loom and fitted it all to the car, everything fits fine and my own airbag even works with the "new" steering and loom. I tried to code with VCDS and I'm getting Coding rejected - Error 31 - Request out of range.

 

I've read about coding out the stalk for cruise control but can't find anything about how to do it. Cruise, radio etc all working as normal, no lights one but horn doesn't work. Horn issue has only been present since fitting the new air bag loom so I assume this is to do with the coding of the MF Buttons?

 

The clock spring part number is 1K0 959 653 C which from what I can find is compatible with MFSW

 

Can anybody offer any advice?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Andy

Edited 16 December, 20196 yr by AndyD345

What steering controller do you have?

 

Might be worth posting a full autoscan if possible...

What is the controller? Black box inside the steering?

11 minutes ago, AndyD345 said:

What is the controller? Black box inside the steering?

The module that sits under the steering column

 

you can see it in the last picture, with the yellow plug

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vw-Golf-Mk-5-Column-With-Key/153753015018?hash=item23cc64d2ea:g:e8cAAOSw8o9d61~s

Thanks, will check it tonight and report back!

Controller is 1K0 953 549 AP

Had a host of fault codes as well, 01411 I think, controller not configured correctly. 

I've put the original look back in and everything is working again as it should, tempted to scrap the idea and sell the steering wheel on!

That'll be your problem, the AP rev doesn't support a MFSW. If you change the steering controller you should be fine.

 

Rosstech have a list here: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Steering_Wheel_Control_Module_Versions#Part_Number_1K0-953-549

 

I think most use a 1K0 953 549 CH and it matches the AP rev for slip ring type and steering angle sensor.

Thanks! Are these plug n play or do they need coded? Assuming they need coded is it easily enough done with VCDS?

It will need coding and probably basic settings for the steering assist would need to be done too. All can be done with vcds

 

for a CH module there are two versions of coding depending on whether you have a Superb Mk1 or Mk2 wheel fitted

It's Mk1 Superb wheel and it is identical to the one I removed to the point the airbags are interchangeable however the numbers are different so I haven't tried to plug them in, I'm using the original airbag.

 

So if I'm reading the table correctly any of the numbers below will work with my car and MFSW? My car being auto I need (want) the key lock to be working. The highlighted one is the controller currently fitted.

 

26 minutes ago, AndyD345 said:

It's Mk1 Superb wheel and it is identical to the one I removed to the point the airbags are interchangeable however the numbers are different so I haven't tried to plug them in, I'm using the original airbag.

 

So if I'm reading the table correctly any of the numbers below will work with my car and MFSW? My car being auto I need (want) the key lock to be working. The highlighted one is the controller currently fitted.

 

Yes, You can also use 1K0-953-549BK or BG

Can anyone tell me if a type 1 controller is comparable with a system originally fitted with a type 2?

On 17/12/2019 at 17:16, AndyD345 said:

Can anyone tell me if a type 1 controller is comparable with a system originally fitted with a type 2?

type 1 uses a different slip ring so stick with type 2

Hi

 

Back to this again, I sourced and fitted 1K0-953-549-BS (original was 1K0-953-549-AP) It has a higher software level but other than that its the same, I was advised by a VW guru this should work fine.

 

One difference I did notice was the plug circled was not there one the BS unit but is on the original.

 

Reason for this post - Before I start searching for coding related faults with VCDS I have the steering warning light on, would it be likely this unit isn't compatible or is it just likely to be a coding issue? Radio controls work however cruise control buttons not working but still cruise still working with the stalk which I believe is a coding issue. Horn not working either but I suspect this is an issue with the airbag loom inside the steering wheel.

 

Any advise gratefully received.

if everything works then great

 

The BS doesn't support steering angle sensor behind the slip ring

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-MK5-2004-08-STEERING-WHEEL-ANGLE-SENSOR-MODULE-MKV-2-0-TDI-1K0959654/401981454072?hash=item5d97f636f8:g:OtIAAOSw~u5d5S-k

Do you know is the angle sensor able to be coded out with VCDS? Or is this an important part of the vehicle safety features?

if you had one originally then you need to keep it

1K0-953-549-AM	Type 1	SW 0070	Highline	Yes	1.3	-
1K0-953-549-AN	Type 2	SW 0070	Lowline	Yes	-	-
1K0-953-549-AP	Type 2	SW 0070	Midline	Yes	-	-
1K0-953-549-AQ	Type 2	SW 0070	Highline	Yes	1.3	-
1K0-953-549-AR	Type 2	SW 0070	Midline	Yes	-	-

 

1K0-953-549-BN	Type 2	SW 0100/0101	Midline	Yes	-	-
1K0-953-549-BP	Type 2	SW 0101	Highline	Yes	1.3	#2
1K0-953-549-BQ	Type 2	SW 0101	Lowline	Yes	-	-
1K0-953-549-BR	Type 2	SW 0101	Midline	No	-	-
1K0-953-549-BS	Type 2	SW 0101	Highline	No	1.3	-
1K0-953-549-BT	Type 2	SW 0101	Lowline	Yes	-	-
1K0-953-549-CA	Type 2	SW 0101	Midline	Yes	-	-
1K0-953-549-CB	Type 2	SW 0101	Midline	Yes	-	-
1K0

 

as you can see your AP has a steering angle sensor and the BS doesn't

you need to make sure the module supports it

 

the ones without are for later cars that have the steering angle sensor built into the steering rack

also ross tech info is not always correct, i bought a CB and it doesn't support G85 

 

Edited 13 January, 20206 yr by Eddie-NL

Thanks Eddie, I've just spotted my own mistake on the table - DOH!

Ok, quick update. Got the right controller, coded in and all working with the exception of the cruise control buttons on the steering wheel. Cruise works, but off the stalk so I assume if I replace the stalk with a non cruise stalk then the wheel buttons will work?

Wheel is a 4 spoke wheel taken off a Superb but it is identical to the Octavia wheel other than its MFSW. Are there other options available to replace the cruise buttons on the left of the wheel?

Hi, 

I have a Skoda Octavia mk2 MY2007, the original steering wheel controller was 1K0-953-549BC so midline. I have fitted maxidot cluster and cruise control stalk and RNS510 Columbus.

Now I've fitted mfsw and steering wheel controller 1K0-953-549BK (highline). I also got the airbag loom for mfsw, part no. 5K0971584C, the light on/off button worked, but the rest of the buttons and horn didn't,  so I did some modifications to it, and now the horn works.

On VCDS I can see when I press the buttons on the steering wheel. The only thing left to do is to code the RNS510 for the shortpress buttons, which I can't, because for some reason my unit doesn't save the coding.

Any solutions ?

is the RNS510 a vw unit or a skoda unit?

check the firmware on the unit

 

which buttons don't work?

11 hours ago, Eddie-NL said:

is the RNS510 a vw unit or a skoda unit?

check the firmware on the unit

 

which buttons don't work?

Is skoda unit. Took it from a 09 superb. The illumination button work, so I can turn on or off the mfsw buttons light. The others don't work. Is it because I have stalk with buttons for mfd ? And the volume up and down and mute buttons don't work, but on vcds on measuring values I can see the value changing when I press every single button.

does the nav display in the maxidot

 

i have found that some cars don't like BAP coded and experiment with shortpress too

Yes, it does display in maxidot. BAP is not coded as I have pre FL clocks at the moment.