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I have had 2 Yeti’s, the second being a 2017 SEL Drive 1.2 DSG with a number of extras. Thinking about a replacement I used the Kamiq configurator to spec a Kamiq to the same level as my Yeti and was amazed to find that the price was in excess of £29k - and that’s before I added extra Warranty or servicing. I paid £21k for the Yeti so the Kamiq would be over 40% more expensive! Agreed this is before any price negotiations but I found that many items that were standard on the Yeti SEL were extras on the Kamiq SEL. Frankly for that money I might as well buy something like a Volvo XC40 or competitor.

What are people actually paying for Kamiq’s compared with price list? 

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I've now got my Kamiq and p/exchanged my Yeti. No deposit but paying £7 a month more than I was doing. That's almost been offset by my insurance being £6 a month less, and I've got 2 services included. Saved the cost of MOT and service and the guarantee was also expiring so I would have had to think about that as well.

 

Drove it home (the long way) and it's now tucked up in bed while I'm doing some reading.

 

@Expatman It's certainly different to get in and out of, but as I said in another thread, it suits my needs. I can't bend my neck or my back. Do I recall you've got a knee problem? That might be a deal breaker as it's lower down. Only one sure fire way to find out - a trip to the dealers 😄

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5 minutes ago, longedge said:

I've now got my Kamiq and p/exchanged my Yeti. No deposit but paying £7 a month more than I was doing. That's almost been offset by my insurance being £6 a month less, and I've got 2 services included. Saved the cost of MOT and service and the guarantee was also expiring so I would have had to think about that as well.

 

Drove it home (the long way) and it's now tucked up in bed while I'm doing some reading.

 

@Expatman It's certainly different to get in and out of, but as I said in another thread, it suits my needs. I can't bend my neck or my back. Do I recall you've got a knee problem? That might be a deal breaker as it's lower down. Only one sure fire way to find out - a trip to the dealers 😄

It's the 'lower down' bit that worries me! How much lower would you guess at?

As I saw them standing side by side as I was transhipping all my stuff, it was the cill height that stood out. Off the top of my head 3 or 4 inches. I reckon you can spend all day looking at published dimensions and still be no wiser. You've got to actually try it by doing it to be sure 😃

 

p.s. and get a good long test drive. The ride is definitely firmer and there's more road noise.

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54 minutes ago, longedge said:

The ride is definitely firmer and there's more road noise.

 

Enjoy your new car, Longedge 👍

 

Does yours have 18" wheels?

Thanks.

 

Yup 18" standard and the only option, I would glady have chosen 16" (although I didn't do any choosing as it was already built and en route when I ordered 😁 )

46 minutes ago, longedge said:

Yup 18" standard and the only option...

 

That would be a deal breaker for me.  The harshness and noisiness of low profile tyres has spoilt my enjoyment of my Yeti; also my Roomster Scout before it.

 

If Skoda UK were unable to arrange a special build of 16" wheels on a Kamiq (as on Expatman's Yeti) then I would walk away.

21 minutes ago, Robjon said:

 

That would be a deal breaker for me.

Probably would've been for me in the days when I used my car a lot. My occasional trips to town, the shops or the surgery all at a very sedate pace means it's bearable 😀 .

 

Deciding factors for me were no extra cost, another 3 years warranty, included services, exactly the same width as the Yeti so it fits in the garage (just) and to be honest something new to play with.

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Save your money and go for the SE

 

the SE handles brilliantly but rides much better than the SEL

 

can’t say I was bothered about a digital dash and the info screen is plenty big enough 

 

if the SEL had leather as standard it would be a different story but it doesn’t 

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2 hours ago, Robjon said:

 

That would be a deal breaker for me.  The harshness and noisiness of low profile tyres has spoilt my enjoyment of my Yeti; also my Roomster Scout before it.

 

If Skoda UK were unable to arrange a special build of 16" wheels on a Kamiq (as on Expatman's Yeti) then I would walk away.

I got 16” wheels twice on my Yeti’s. Contacted Skoda(UK) headquarters and after a bit of perseverance got through to the right person and from there it was easy. Skoda(UK) intercepted the dealer order and made the change directly with the factory, car arrived in UK at dealers with spec’d 16” wheels no problem.

I always spec minimum approved wheel size on new cars simply because on our deteriorating UK roads higher profile tyres provide a more comfortable ride but are also much more able to handle potholes etc. They are also cheaper to buy!

I am convinced low profile tyres are simply a marketing gimmick and touted to the gullible British buyer as being “better looking” by the tyre manufacturers who stand to sell more tyres at higher prices.

23 hours ago, Robjon said:

 

That would be a deal breaker for me.  The harshness and noisiness of low profile tyres has spoilt my enjoyment of my Yeti; also my Roomster Scout before it.

 

If Skoda UK were unable to arrange a special build of 16" wheels on a Kamiq (as on Expatman's Yeti) then I would walk away.

Me too ! That's 3 possible sales lost on here alone so far! For the life of me I don't know why these bigger wheels that most people in the know hate aren't made as options by all these manufacturers. They are risking losing a whole car sale for the sake of a few hundred pounds and if they look so great those that want them will go for the option. Their marketing people must be brain dead.

 

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On 20/12/2019 at 15:29, Expatman said:

 a 2017 SEL Drive 1.2 DSG with a number of extras. Thinking about a replacement I used the Kamiq configurator to spec a Kamiq to the same level as my Yeti and was amazed to find that the price was in excess of £29k.

 

I paid £21k for the Yeti so the Kamiq would be over 40% more expensive! Agreed this is before any price negotiations but I found that many items that were standard on the Yeti SEL were extras on the Kamiq SEL. Frankly for that money I might as well buy something like a Volvo XC40 or competitor.

 

What are people actually paying for Kamiq’s compared with price list? 

 

23 hours ago, Expatman said:

I am convinced low profile tyres are simply a marketing gimmick and touted to the gullible British buyer as being “better looking” by the tyre manufacturers who stand to sell more tyres at higher prices.

 

Such a weird thread / discussion. I'm confused.

 

Why compare Yeti to the Kamiq, when the Karoq was it's replacement?  Rather than reply in full to your concerns about price ( which is biased in favour of the old discontinued Yeti -v- new model with latest tech on board), I'll summarize by saying I paid approx £25k for a brand new Karoq Edition 1.5 dsg. That's approx 20% more than your Yeti but ( IMO anyway ) is easily 20% better in every department.

 

As for the 'gullible British buyer' - do tyre and car manufacturers only sell low profile tyres to us Brits? 

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33 minutes ago, Scot5 said:

 

 

As for the 'gullible British buyer' - do tyre and car manufacturers only sell low profile tyres to us Brits? 

Disproportionately yes.

The Kamiq Has not replaced the Yeti the Karoq did so configure the Karoq against the yeti

The Yeti has been discontinued.

 

A number of new models have been introduced and having once been a Yeti owner doesn't preclude you from comparing and considering any of the new ones is the way I view it.

 

An important point for me is that the Karoq is wider than the Yeti to the extent that it would have reduced my clearance when putting the car into the garage to a couple of millimetres either side. The Kamiq is exactly the same width as the Yeti and has a more 'comfortable' clearance.

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1 hour ago, longedge said:

An important point for me is that the Karoq is wider than the Yeti to the extent that it would have reduced my clearance when putting the car into the garage to a couple of millimetres either side. The Kamiq is exactly the same width as the Yeti and has a more 'comfortable' clearance.

 

This is the reason I too consider the Kamiq, and not the Karoq, a possible replacement for my Yeti.

 

Kamiq will go into my garage.  Karoq will not.

 

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Yeti: 4223 L x 1793 W x 1671 H

Kamiq: 4241 L x 1793 W x 1531 H

Karoq: 4382 L x 1841 W x 1603 H

 

So external dimension wise the Kamiq is very close to Yeti in length and width. Karoq is altogether bigger in both dimensions. In terms of height both the Kamiq (140mm lower) and the Karoq (68mm lower) are not as tall as the original Yeti. 

Basically the Yeti was a one off and neither Kamiq or Karoq can be considered a replacement, as Car magazine says “RIP Yeti”. My Yeti is due for service after Christmas so I will have a look at the Kamiq then. If, as I suspect, the driving position is much lower than my Yeti then I will be looking at competitors when the time comes for replacement. 

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The arch gaps and high-profile tyres made the Yeti look like a proper SUV, 4x4, off-roader, whatever you want to call it.

 

As much progress as the Kamiq has made, it is still a 5-door hatchback, despite what Skoda's marketing department dream up...

 

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2 hours ago, silver1011 said:

The arch gaps and high-profile tyres made the Yeti look like a proper SUV, 4x4, off-roader, whatever you want to call it.

 

As much progress as the Kamiq has made, it is still a 5-door hatchback, despite what Skoda's marketing department dream up...

 

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Exactly!

There are plenty Yeti around, if what you like is a Yeti just have a Yeti and look after it and run it for many years.

They are a design classic already and if you keep for ever eventually they qualify for Classic Insurance.

Just be sure to get the most reliable ones & the easiest to fix and watch for corrosion.

 

Avoid the TDI's with SCR. Avoid early 1.2 TSI's avoid 1.8TSI's. Maybe avoid with DQ200 DSG's, maybe avoid with Haldex.

Avoid with Zinc Inclusion.

 

Other wise the world is your oyster.

On 22/12/2019 at 10:33, skoda1982 said:

The Kamiq Has not replaced the Yeti the Karoq did so configure the Karoq against the yeti

 

The Karoq may have been Skoda's Yeti replacement, but if looking at actual size the Kamiq is almost the same. To me that is important as I have limited parking. Therefore I will compare the 2.

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3 hours ago, Llanigraham said:

 

The Karoq may have been Skoda's Yeti replacement, but if looking at actual size the Kamiq is almost the same. To me that is important as I have limited parking. Therefore I will compare the 2.

Agreed, and if you think back the Yeti and Roomster were introduced when Skoda still had a degree of originality and flair and before the dead hand of VAG clamped down. Now Skoda’s offerings are simply offset mirror images of Seat and VW offerings. I reckon the Yeti was a one off that hit the mark as far as many discerning buyers were concerned, same with the Roomster. However, the general public preferred more cookie cutter vehicles so we are unlikely to see the likes of the Yeti/Roomster again.

The strange thing about the Kamiq is that it is much more upmarket than the VW offering (T-Cross). The Kamiq can be had with leather interior, electric drivers seat, soft touch dashboard etc etc, while the T-Cross doesn’t have any of those nice touches - it just seems counter intuitive to me that VAG have deliberately made the T-Cross downmarket compared with the Kamiq - WHY????

14 hours ago, Roottootemoot said:

 

Avoid the TDI's with SCR.

 

What is an SCR when its at home?

 

too late to avoid, just want to know if my Yeti has an achilles heel.

 

Regarding tyre section and wheel arech clearance, I am currently running the winter wheels that I bought for my Yeti (standard Yeti rim diameter, offset & tyre profile) on my MK2 Octavia estate to which I had already fitted heavy duty springs which lifted it a little, the height combined with the tyres being bigger which lifts it a little more it looks more of a mudplugger than any of the so called SUV's but being FWD it cant walk the walk.

Being an impatient chap I asked Google!

 

Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) is an advanced active emissions control technology system that injects a liquid-reductant agent through a special catalyst into the exhaust stream of a diesel engine. The reductant source is usually automotive-grade urea, otherwise known as Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF).

 

How often do I need to pi55 in the tank?

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