@Stubod

Nail on the head.  Starts at under £20,000 RRP and tops out at £29,000 ish.

So like a Kamiq and all the other tall / tallish with little clearance hatch backs that are not SUVs maybe Crossovers or what every media spin term covers them.

 

I like a Suzuki S-Cross which is not a SUV but can have AWD & Auto over a Vitara but i have a 10 year old SX4 as a replacement for a Jimny auto i had for 17 years.

 

https://cars.suzuki.co.uk/automatic-cars/

 

Edited 10 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

2 hours ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@Stubod

Nail on the head.  Starts at under £20,000 RRP and tops out at £29,000 ish.

So like a Kamiq and all the other tall / tallish with little clearance hatch backs that are not SUVs maybe Crossovers or what every media spin term covers them.

 

I like a Suzuki S-Cross which is not a SUV but can have AWD & Auto over a Vitara but i have a 10 year old SX4 as a replacement for a Jimny auto i had for 17 years.

 

https://cars.suzuki.co.uk/automatic-cars/

 

...yep, not sure what the main differences are between the S-Cross and the Vitara, but the new S-cross is not a particularly nice looking car.....they seem to have done something a bit "Ford Scorpio" with the front end? (many apols to anybody that has one...and I will admit I used to own an Allegro 😞 ....why??) 

Very Fugly, but more boot / room.  You don't see the outside when driving.

That is what many  seemed to forget when they dismissed the Yeti / Roomster and never tried one.  Function over style.

Edited 10 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

Well reviews of new Ford Puma are out and generally excellent. Whatcar has declared it their car of the year and claims it sets new high standards for the small SUV class - faster, finish and roadholding better than any competitive model. Makes the T-Cross interior and finish look decidedly third rate and down market.

Shame there’s NO engine choice!

1 hour ago, Sad555 said:

Shame there’s NO engine choice!

Not yet and no auto either but I read somewhere that more choice of engines and an auto gearbox will be introduced over the coming months. Trouble is can’t now find where I read it but I think it was a Ford website!

Maybe here. 

 

Never been a fan of clanky 3 cylinder engines !but a nice looking motor

Like the look of these.....................but not destined for Europe.......yet

3 hours ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

Maybe here. 

 

yes - that’s where I saw it. Memory fading with age.....................

19 hours ago, Sad555 said:

Like the look of these.....................but not destined for Europe.......yet

Interesting, just had a look at the Kia Nero PHEV, seems to have all the kit anyone could need as standard and reviews suggest it’s nice to drive, comfortable and quiet if a bit boring. I can do boring. It does approx 34 miles on a full battery before the 1.6 litre petrol engine cuts in. For my driving on a day to day basis I drive less than 34 miles per day and on the monthly longer drives the petrol engine will remove any "range anxiety”, similarly on holidays to wilds of West Country, Wales and Scotland where recharging stations are far apart and looking for them is not something you want to spend your time doing on holiday, the petrol engine looks fine.

Not looking to change my Yeti for 12+ months but a PHEV with 34 miles daily range might be the way to go. Anyone any experience of driving a PHEV vehicle?

I have had a loan of all the Kia Niros,  Self Charge, Plug in and e-Niro.

Yes you can run the Plug in on Electric so need no petrol for short journeys.

The thing is that you can get better MPG with the 1.6 Self Charging one on long runs, and the car costs less.

 

Having said that you might get a great deal on a Niro Plug In. 

They are selling like stale cakes.   The government are not being conned by the Green Credentials and neither are that many buyers.

Edited 17 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

5 minutes ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

I have had a loan of all the Kia Niros,  Self Charge, Plug in and e-Niro.

Yes you can run the Plug in on Electric so need no petrol for short journeys.

The thing is that you can get better MPG with the 1.6 Self Charging one on long runs, and the car costs less.

That's interesting, what mileage on long runs did you get with the PHEV? My thinking is that as my daily drives are less than 30 miles I could charge at home and apart from holidays and occasional long run I wouldn’t need to buy petrol at all so my average MPG over a year would be very good. However, MPG on long runs would be a factor in my thinking.

Edited 17 January, 20206 yr by Expatman

Best borrow them for a couple of days. That is why the HMRC / Tax Payers are helping Dealers with a tax bread to have Demonstrators that their staff can run around in and then make more profit selling them.

 

Dont compare what i get driving.  I either go for spirited fun drives or on other occasions i hypermile.   

If i get another NIP this week i might be cycling for a while til i get my licence back.

 

 

Edited 17 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

After finding a parking space Had to move the car after noticing it was for vehicle charging CARS ONLY and this was in a smallish Tesco store

1 hour ago, Expatman said:

Interesting, just had a look at the Kia Nero PHEV, seems to have all the kit anyone could need as standard and reviews suggest it’s nice to drive, comfortable and quiet if a bit boring. I can do boring. It does approx 34 miles on a full battery before the 1.6 litre petrol engine cuts in. For my driving on a day to day basis I drive less than 34 miles per day and on the monthly longer drives the petrol engine will remove any "range anxiety”, similarly on holidays to wilds of West Country, Wales and Scotland where recharging stations are far apart and looking for them is not something you want to spend your time doing on holiday, the petrol engine looks fine.

Not looking to change my Yeti for 12+ months but a PHEV with 34 miles daily range might be the way to go. Anyone any experience of driving a PHEV vehicle?

 

Funnily enough we are also looking at the Niro, but I can only buy a post-2019 model as they are the only ones Type Approved for towing.

@Sad555  Did you spot the VW logo on it?

Edited 17 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

No I didn’t ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but will double check next time😲

Room for this

4 hours ago, Llanigraham said:

 

Funnily enough we are also looking at the Niro, but I can only buy a post-2019 model as they are the only ones Type Approved for towing.

Are you looking for the PHEV, electric or IC versions? If you have a test drive I would be very interested in what you thought of it in terms of drivability, refinement, cabin noise (some reviews have said it is a bit noisy on motorways etc due to tyre and wind noise) and performance.

Looking at the self-charging hybrid as we cannot have a recharging point at the house; no drive.
Took a test drive in a 2017 model the other weekend and found it quite nice but perhaps not quite up to the standard of the Yeti, and I'm not used to DSG boxes.
Seats were comfortable and plenty of toys and they all seemed to be in the right place.
Sat nav seemed OK.
Thought it was quite quiet, especially running on the battery and didn't notice any wind noise driving down the Heads of the Valleys road. 
Boot is bigger than the Yeti and more useable, but the seats don't come out, but do fold flat.
Certainly think I could happily live with it.

16 hours ago, Llanigraham said:

Looking at the self-charging hybrid as we cannot have a recharging point at the house; no drive.
Took a test drive in a 2017 model the other weekend and found it quite nice but perhaps not quite up to the standard of the Yeti, and I'm not used to DSG boxes.
Seats were comfortable and plenty of toys and they all seemed to be in the right place.
Sat nav seemed OK.
Thought it was quite quiet, especially running on the battery and didn't notice any wind noise driving down the Heads of the Valleys road. 
Boot is bigger than the Yeti and more useable, but the seats don't come out, but do fold flat.
Certainly think I could happily live with it.

How was the driving position? Did you feel you were as high up as in the Yeti, and is it easy to slide in and out of - so you don’t have to bend down as with a normal hatchback. My wife has a back problem so needs a car with seat she can slide into rather than stoop down to or climb up into!

To be honest, I didn't notice which would lead me to suspect that it is very similar to the Yeti. 
Have you tried for a test drive? Allegedly all dealers should have one of the Niro's in their fleet.

5 hours ago, Llanigraham said:

To be honest, I didn't notice which would lead me to suspect that it is very similar to the Yeti. 
Have you tried for a test drive? Allegedly all dealers should have one of the Niro's in their fleet.

Will do but they generally supply with fully charged battery and what I want to see is what it’s like driving on the petrol engine which would obviously be used on longer journeys. Also somewhat disappointed to read that the heater is only powered by the petrol engine so even if driving in town in the winter the petrol engine is running to supply heat. That seems daft to me as surely the whole point of a PHEV is that it can run on shortish journeys around town on electric power without any emissions, if the engine is running to provide heat on cold days - and let’s be honest there are more of those in UK than warm days - then that would seem to negate the basic reason for buying the PHEV?

Edited 18 January, 20206 yr by Expatman

2 hours ago, Expatman said:

Took a test drive in a 2017 model the other weekend and found it quite nice but perhaps not quite up to the standard of the Yeti, and I'm not used to DSG

I have been driving my first ever DSG after 50 yrs of manuals for over 18 months now and have to admit after initial apprehension really enjoy it,so much so I forget to put my on the clutch when slowing down driving the wife’s car.