The KONI’s are £450 ish, if the B6s can be had for a similar price, I'd consider them,  it I can't find them anywhere near as cheap. I'll keep looking.

Just to clarify, b8 is the same valving as b6 so no stiffer. The added perceptive stiffness probably comes from the fact that b8s are shorter (designed for lowering) so the lowering springs offer a stiffer package (oo-er).

If you fit lowering springs to a set of b6 you essentially get the b12 kit which normally comes with b8.

The B6's would be fine for me as I'm not interested in lowering. I also need to be careful that I don't go for something that's too stiff. Under normal everyday driving at say 30mph I don't want it to be obvious that the suspension has been changed. By that I mean I don't want anything that's close to smashing your teeth out.

 

when I was driving yesterday I realised that at 30mph the car feels fantastic, it's not spongy and bumps in the road feel firm but not too firm. It's when you speed up where things start to go wrong, it just can't cope with bumps or dips in the road in quick succession, it's like the springs are being left to do all of the work and the dampers have gone to sleep.

 

Im still edging towards the Koni Actives, I like the way they are supposed to simulate active suspension, but, I'm not ruling out the B6's.

18 minutes ago, TheBinarySheep said:

The B6's would be fine for me as I'm not interested in lowering. I also need to be careful that I don't go for something that's too stiff. Under normal everyday driving at say 30mph I don't want it to be obvious that the suspension has been changed. By that I mean I don't want anything that's close to smashing your teeth out.

 

when I was driving yesterday I realised that at 30mph the car feels fantastic, it's not spongy and bumps in the road feel firm but not too firm. It's when you speed up where things start to go wrong, it just can't cope with bumps or dips in the road in quick succession, it's like the springs are being left to do all of the work and the dampers have gone to sleep.

 

Im still edging towards the Koni Actives, I like the way they are supposed to simulate active suspension, but, I'm not ruling out the B6's.

I’ve had koni fsd/actives on two cars now and they are brilliant. Had them on an abarth 500esseesse and a punto esseesse. Both which improved the ride immensely. 
my wife has a 500x cross plus now and they have them on as standard (fiat and koni collaboration) they have the standard look shock but the fsd shock internals. They are great on this too. Over speed humps you can feel the damping (if that makes sense) and throw it into a bend and it’s really stiff. Very very clever... 

I will certainly be fitting them to the superb when the budget allows. There is another thread on here somewhere, where a guy has fitted them to his superb saloon 

If I buy new shocks, will my dealer fit them, if so, does anyone know how much they might charge? I've made an enquiry, but it's going to take a few days to get a response.

Got a response from the dealership, the service manager has said they'll only fit like for like shock absorbers, so nothing aftermarket.

5 hours ago, TheBinarySheep said:

Got a response from the dealership, the service manager has said they'll only fit like for like shock absorbers, so nothing aftermarket.

 

Do you need them to fit? Can you not use an indy? Probably better price too. I'd also steer clear of a dealer that refuses business in that way. If you are maintaining a warranty then that is different.

2 hours ago, MarkyG82 said:

 

Do you need them to fit? Can you not use an indy? Probably better price too. I'd also steer clear of a dealer that refuses business in that way. If you are maintaining a warranty then that is different.

 

We've still got a year left on the warranty. While I understand that even getting them to fit aftermarket shocks will impact the warranty around suspension components, I was keen to try and build up some loyalty with the dealer. The history is, we bought an Octavia VRS, while it was under warranty we got it serviced at an independent. Then, about a year or so outside of warranty (and 48k mile on the clock) we got stung with a bill for a new water pump and thermostat (£740), as well as a bill to repair cracking pain around the bootlid where the spoiler sat. They're common issues, and I know some people had had some luck with their dealership in getting 50% of the cost of the repair covered for these faults. Sadly we lost out because we didn't have any loyalty towards a dealership.

 

Because of the above, when our warranty expires I'm going to extend it for another couple of years to be on the safe side, and really want to keep a full dealership history. We have VAG specialist literally just around the corner, I suppose I could get the shocks fitted there, and then continue to use Skoda for servicing.

Edited 27 May, 20206 yr by TheBinarySheep

3 hours ago, TheBinarySheep said:

 

We've still got a year left on the warranty. While I understand that even getting them to fit aftermarket shocks will impact the warranty around suspension components, I was keen to try and build up some loyalty with the dealer. The history is, we bought an Octavia VRS, while it was under warranty we got it serviced at an independent. Then, about a year or so outside of warranty (and 48k mile on the clock) we got stung with a bill for a new water pump and thermostat (£740), as well as a bill to repair cracking pain around the bootlid where the spoiler sat. They're common issues, and I know some people had had some luck with their dealership in getting 50% of the cost of the repair covered for these faults. Sadly we lost out because we didn't have any loyalty towards a dealership.

 

Because of the above, when our warranty expires I'm going to extend it for another couple of years to be on the safe side, and really want to keep a full dealership history. We have VAG specialist literally just around the corner, I suppose I could get the shocks fitted there, and then continue to use Skoda for servicing.

Water pump and thermostat is probably THE most common "big" issue that comes up on 2.0 TSIs of current gen, it's something to keep an eye out for even on the 280/272 cars and have it sorted under warranty in time. If you ever need to top up coolant you should be probably taking it in and push for this repair. Unlucky that it showed itself (or you only noticed) after the warranty had expired.

Shocks though, it's a much safer field. Not aware of any common/expensive suspension issue that your aftermarket shocks could cause complications with, although I do understand the spirit of your post.

 

On 23/05/2020 at 09:53, TheBinarySheep said:

I appreciate the responses so far.

I feel going the route of fitting adjustable coilovers is overkill. I understand this is a family car and having it drive like it's on rails isn't realistic, and nor do I want it to feel like that. We had an Abarth 500 once, and the wife really wasn't at all impressed with the firmness of the ride. The Octavia VRS was used to have was comfortable in every day driving, it didn't lean too much in the corners and it when driving down a country road you didn't feel like the car was going to bounce its way into a hedge, it didn't have expensive adjustable coilovers. I want an OEM feel, I just think Skoda got the damping wrong on the non-DCC Superb. I want the car to feel how it should have felt when it came from the factory. I suspect Skoda made the suspension the way it is on the Sportline just incase they decided to produce a VRS version. I guess that's what I'm aiming for, a VRS Superb, comfortable, but a 'little' sporty.

 

I can't help that the Koni Actives might just be what I need. My understanding is that they'll reduce some of the bounce by providing more damping that the standard shocks, and they'll also reduce a 'small' amount of lean due to the way they stiffen up under load? If I feel there's still to much lean, then fitting a stiffer ARB at a later date could be an option?

The B6's look like a good option too, but, konis are £650 fitted, B6's would be around £1,000, which more than I was wanting to pay.

Do you have a link to the Konis and where did you get they are £650 fitted? I am looking for the same thing as you are, a ‘standard’ vrs type ride for the superb sport line. 

Thanks

Matt

On 24/05/2020 at 07:34, TheBinarySheep said:

when I was driving yesterday I realised that at 30mph the car feels fantastic, it's not spongy and bumps in the road feel firm but not too firm. It's when you speed up where things start to go wrong, it just can't cope with bumps or dips in the road in quick succession, it's like the springs are being left to do all of the work and the dampers have gone to sleep.

 

 

That para makes me think more about tyres.

 

You won't make a dramatic improvement with just tyres, but it doesn't sound like you need a dramatic improvement, if you only need to get at higher speeds what you've currently got at 30.

 

What tyres are you running, and are those on standard pressures?

@TheBinarySheep

How many miles has your car covered?

9 hours ago, MTwedVRS said:

Do you have a link to the Konis and where did you get they are £650 fitted? I am looking for the same thing as you are, a ‘standard’ vrs type ride for the superb sport line. 

Thanks

Matt

You can get them from Larkspeed for about £456

Fronts - https://www.larkspeed.com/shopper/i/6387451388 £137 each

Rears - https://www.larkspeed.com/shopper/i/2982451387 £91 each 

A local independent has said they can fit the shocks for £192 (£48 per wheel). That brings the total cost to around £650.

8 hours ago, Axle_of_weasels said:

 

That para makes me think more about tyres.

 

You won't make a dramatic improvement with just tyres, but it doesn't sound like you need a dramatic improvement, if you only need to get at higher speeds what you've currently got at 30.

 

What tyres are you running, and are those on standard pressures?

 

I don't think it's tyres. I'm still on the standard low profile tyres that come with the 19" wheels on the sportline.

 

8 hours ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@TheBinarySheep

How many miles has your car covered?

 

The car has covered about 17,000 mile

1 hour ago, TheBinarySheep said:

 

I don't think it's tyres. I'm still on the standard low profile tyres that come with the 19" wheels on the sportline.

 

 

The car has covered about 17,000 mile

235/40 is anything but low profile   

In fact it's meaty enough to make a 19" wheel look small, and is noticeable taller than a Golf GTI/R's stock 235/30/19, which isn't exactly extreme.

@TheBinarySheep

?

What are the tyre pressures at?

 

 

 

1 hour ago, TheBinarySheep said:

You can get them from Larkspeed for about £456

Fronts - https://www.larkspeed.com/shopper/i/6387451388 £137 each

Rears - https://www.larkspeed.com/shopper/i/2982451387 £91 each 

A local independent has said they can fit the shocks for £192 (£48 per wheel). That brings the total cost to around £650.

Great thank you, did you fit them in the end... whats the verdict? 

1 hour ago, newbie69 said:

235/40 is anything but low profile   

In fact it's meaty enough to make a 19" wheel look small, and is noticeable taller than a Golf GTI/R's stock 235/30/19, which isn't exactly extreme.

 

I've always considered anything less than a profile of 50 as low profile. 

42 minutes ago, MTwedVRS said:

Great thank you, did you fit them in the end... whats the verdict? 

I've not gone ahead yet. I'm still gathering some prices from local specialists.

4 hours ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@TheBinarySheep

?

What are the tyre pressures at?

 

 

 

 

I've just checked pressures, 60 PSI all around, which seems a bit high to me, I normally pressurise tyres to around 36 (ish)

@TheBinarySheep So when did you last set them and reset the TPMS, or has it been in somewhere getting work?

They arrive new off the transporter with the car in 'Transit Mode' at tyres at around 50 PSI and then some lazy muppet might not then set them safe.

Edited 1 June, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

The car is two year old, but I've only owned it for 2-3 month. So it's either been like this since new, or the previous owner inflated them. 

It's due its first service in the next few weeks, so it hasn't even been to a garage for a service yet.

What should the tyre pressures be?

4 minutes ago, TheBinarySheep said:

The car is two year old, but I've only owned it for 2-3 month. So it's either been like this since new, or the previous owner inflated them. 

It's due its first service in the next few weeks, so it hasn't even been to a garage for a service yet.

What should the tyre pressures be?

On the fuel filler cap it states the recommended pressures for various wheels and loading scenarios. They are much lower than 60psi i believe

@TheBinarySheep

Sorry not got a clue, but then when i get any car to drive i look in the Fuel Filler Flap, whip out my tyre pressure gauge and check what the tyres are at, 

and let them down or head to put air in.

 

I never trust my life or others to what some idiot might have set the tyres to.

Oddly at car launches i never see journalists or salespeople do the same, and yet the comment on a cars ride and handling.

2 hours ago, TheBinarySheep said:

 

I've just checked pressures, 60 PSI all around, which seems a bit high to me, I normally pressurise tyres to around 36 (ish)

 

No wonder it bounces like a demented rabbit. 

 

Must handle dangerously with a much reduced contact area.

 

Starting a thread complaining about bounce and cornering, talk about spending hundreds of pounds or more to fix it, and hasn't the wherewithal to first check tyre pressures that turn out to be way off the scale and probably over the tyres physical safe limit.

 

For my Superb on Pirelli P7 235/45/18 which have a rated max pressure limit of 51psi printed on them, the fuel filler flap recommendation is 32 - 36psi depending on load.

 

Yours I believe should be around 36psi

 

https://www.puretyre.co.uk/search-results-for-skoda-Superb-15-20-235/40R19/

 

Check the fuel filler flap as others said, its pretty damn obvious.....

Edited 1 June, 20206 yr by xman

1 hour ago, xman said:

 

No wonder it bounces like a demented rabbit. 

 

Must handle dangerously with a much reduced contact area.

 

Starting a thread complaining about bounce and cornering, talk about spending hundreds of pounds or more to fix it, and hasn't the wherewithal to first check tyre pressures that turn out to be way off the scale and probably over the tyres physical safe limit.

 

For my Superb on Pirelli P7 235/45/18 which have a rated max pressure limit of 51psi printed on them, the fuel filler flap recommendation is 32 - 36psi depending on load.

 

Yours I believe should be around 36psi

 

https://www.puretyre.co.uk/search-results-for-skoda-Superb-15-20-235/40R19/

 

Check the fuel filler flap as others said, its pretty damn obvious.....

 

To be fair, I had no idea that tyre pressures has that kind of impact, and reading these forums I'm not the only one that thinks that the ride is bouncy, so I had no reason to suspect that tyre pressures may be the cause. 

I'm going to drop the pressures and see what impact it has.