Hi All

 

ive not posted much on here but have learned a lot from you all over the years so thankyou.

 

in August we finally let our Yeti Urban 110 Diesel go having decided we didn’t want to spend any more money on it.  We absolutely loved the car and had it for 7 years but the problems started at around 67k after the VW update which somehow caused regular DPF regen issues.

 

we then had a host of electrical gremlins but it was always easier to put the money into repairing the car because we loved it so much.  
 

my wife eventually settled on a Q2 which in itself is a great car but I’ve really not gelled with it and i think we all miss the yeti which brings me to my question.

 

are the facelift Yeti’s better made than the pre-facelift I.e. do you know if there were less electrical issues, better rust protection (we had rust spots on the door after a couple of years and Skoda rejected our claim against the warranty citing wear and tear).

 

if we do go back I’d probably want a 170 4*4 version- advice gratefully received 🙂

8 hours ago, Onedesi said:

Hi All

 

ive not posted much on here but have learned a lot from you all over the years so thankyou.

 

in August we finally let our Yeti Urban 110 Diesel go having decided we didn’t want to spend any more money on it.  We absolutely loved the car and had it for 7 years but the problems started at around 67k after the VW update which somehow caused regular DPF regen issues.

 

we then had a host of electrical gremlins but it was always easier to put the money into repairing the car because we loved it so much.  
 

my wife eventually settled on a Q2 which in itself is a great car but I’ve really not gelled with it and i think we all miss the yeti which brings me to my question.

 

are the facelift Yeti’s better made than the pre-facelift I.e. do you know if there were less electrical issues, better rust protection (we had rust spots on the door after a couple of years and Skoda rejected our claim against the warranty citing wear and tear).

 

if we do go back I’d probably want a 170 4*4 version- advice gratefully received 🙂

 

If you want to avoid the "Fix" issues and want a diesel 4x4 then you need a 150 Tdi.  These are a completely new Euro6 engine.

 

As for electrics and zinc inclusions, still some reported issues but I guess time will tell.

Thanks very much for the guidance, I spoke with a dealer last week and he advised the EU6 engines didn’t come to the yeti which confused me tbh.

 

did the 150 replace the 170 and 140?

Mine is a 2015, unknown history but it looks to have been a fleet vehicle, possibly a forestry vehicle, then was written off in a tiny impact that scuffed the bumper but deployed all the airbags.

 

I have never driven it pre-emissions fix so dont know if its worse, it seems to be regenning more frequently but with the lockdown I am not doing my longer journeys.

 

I have zinc inclusion spots on the bottom of the doors, its a solid colour blue and I would not know they were there had I not been looking for them.

 

I have done 8000 miles taking it to 80K & it has been faultlessly reliable.

 

I have an EGR emulator to fit, I am hoping without EGR there will be less soot in the DPF and less regens, maybe my theory is flawed, when I can get back to the UK for a remap I will have the emissions fix reversed.

Speaking with Car Dealership employees is not a guarantee of speaking with someone that knows the brand that they are a salesperson for.

Maybe until recently they were selling white goods or fast foods.

 

2016-2017 Yeti are Euro 6.   Diesels with SCR are Euro 6.

(They had to be after late 2015)

 

 

 

Edited 15 December, 20205 yr by e-Roottoot

It's a shame that Škoda got stuck at the 170 PS TDI engine in the Yeti.  VW went on to fit 177 PS and then 184 PS Euro 6 engines in the Mk1 Tiguan.  My wife had both and they were a good improvement over the earlier engine. 

I'm pretty sure that my 2016 150 TDI, is fundamentally the same engine as the 184 PS and now 190 PS engines, albeit with a smaller turbo.  Those engines are both good for c. 230 bhp with just a remap. 

5 hours ago, Onedesi said:

Thanks very much for the guidance, I spoke with a dealer last week and he advised the EU6 engines didn’t come to the yeti which confused me tbh.

 

did the 150 replace the 170 and 140?

Then your dealer was talking through his anal orifice!
I had a 150 with Adblue and it was excellent, and yes it replaced the 140 and 170.

2 hours ago, Schtum said:

It's a shame that Škoda got stuck at the 170 PS TDI engine in the Yeti.  VW went on to fit 177 PS and then 184 PS Euro 6 engines in the Mk1 Tiguan.  My wife had both and they were a good improvement over the earlier engine. 

I'm pretty sure that my 2016 150 TDI, is fundamentally the same engine as the 184 PS and now 190 PS engines, albeit with a smaller turbo.  Those engines are both good for c. 230 bhp with just a remap. 

I wonder if anyone remapped the 150PS ones, I’d never considered that on our old 110.

3 hours ago, e-Roottoot said:

Speaking with Car Dealership employees is not a guarantee of speaking with someone that knows the brand that they are a salesperson for.

Maybe until recently they were selling white goods or fast foods.

 

2016-2017 Yeti are Euro 6.   Diesels with SCR are Euro 6.

(They had to be after late 2015)

 

 

 

Thanks, that really helps.

 

the next few weeks will be interesting as I work out our options and I did briefly look at the Karoq but it doesn’t have the same appeal.

46 minutes ago, Llanigraham said:

Then your dealer was talking through his anal orifice!
I had a 150 with Adblue and it was excellent, and yes it replaced the 140 and 170.

Shows how little I know, I never worked out what Adblue was but it seems to be on sale at most petrol station forecourts now.

 

is it an engine cleaner product like shell V power claims to be?

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OP, I note that you are in Wolverhampton?..if you are looking for another Yeti there is a really good indy dealer based near Ludlow, (Overton) that specialises in Yeti's / Skoda, and when we took ours in for its service last week his forecourt was chocked full of Yeti's.

 

He has a really good reputation locally but they do not operate a web site so they must sell all his cars via word of mouth?

 

Perhaps not the tidiest of forecourts but the chap (Phil) is ultra friendly and helpful and seems to really know his stuff....may be worth a call to check his "stock".

Edited 15 December, 20205 yr by Stubod

36 minutes ago, Onedesi said:

Shows how little I know, I never worked out what Adblue was but it seems to be on sale at most petrol station forecourts now.

 

is it an engine cleaner product like shell V power claims to be?

 

Not quite.
Adblue is an additive that is injected into the exhaust system from a tank, that in the Yeti is below the boot floor, and that needs to be filled about every 5k miles. The engine tells the system how much to inject. 

I ran a 140 for 6 years and a 150 for 5 years, and the 150 was a far nicer car. It was easily averaging 50mpg+ and was much more responsive. I had no Zinc inclusions and no rust. I only got rid as we were no longer doing the type of journeys suited to a diesel and this caused the N0x sensor to fail. We've now gone down the Kia Niro self charging hybrid route, but if Skoda had made a suitable hybrid I would not have changed manufacturers.

54 minutes ago, Stubod said:

OP, I note that you are in Wolverhampton?..if you are looking for another Yeti there is a really good indy dealer based near Ludlow, (Overton) that specialises in Yeti's / Skoda, and when we took ours in for its service last week his forecourt was chocked full of Yeti's.

 

He has a really good reputation locally but they do not operate a web site so they must sell all his cars via word of mouth?

 

Perhaps not the tidiest of forecourts but the chap (Phil) is ultra friendly and helpful and seems to really know his stuff....may be worth a call to check his "stock".

Thank you very much for the recommendation, pre-COVID we used to visit Ludlow a fair amount so I will definitely look up Overtons, is that the name of the dealer?

Edited 15 December, 20205 yr by Onedesi

4 hours ago, Onedesi said:

I wonder if anyone remapped the 150PS ones, I’d never considered that on our old 110.

 

Yes,  They're good for 180 - 185 bhp and perhaps more importantly, c. 400 Nm.   I can comfirm it makes a big difference to the way the car drives.  

7 hours ago, Schtum said:

 

Yes,  They're good for 180 - 185 bhp and perhaps more importantly, c. 400 Nm.   I can comfirm it makes a big difference to the way the car drives.  

The above can be read several ways. If referring to a remap of the 110bhp to 180-185bhp then this would be inadvisable. I had a 110bhp and it had the 5 speed box. This will not cope well with the far higher torque levels that come with the extra bhp.

 

Colin 

I've had three Yeti's and driven the 150 and 170 extensively.

 

The 150 and 170 have near identical maximum torque. 340 vs 350 NM.  So midrange performance is very similar.  The 150 being a later engine is smoother, quieter and more responsive and is the nicer unit.

The only time the 170 feels stronger is pushing past 3500rpm when the extra power is felt.

 

For me I'd always go for the 150PS as it's a nicer unit to drive with, avoids any complications with the emission systems fix and is compliant for many ULEZ areas.

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  Hi OP...details ref Overton Service Station......

 

NB Do not be put off by the slightly(?) cluttered forecourt, (they have very limited space)....Phil is your man!!

 

(When I was looking he even phoned me back on a Sunday afternoon...I think he lives there ....

3 hours ago, eribaMotters said:

The above can be read several ways. If referring to a remap of the 110bhp to 180-185bhp then this would be inadvisable. I had a 110bhp and it had the 5 speed box. This will not cope well with the far higher torque levels that come with the extra bhp.

 

Colin 

 

I was responding to the quesion in Onedesi's post - "I wonder if anyone remapped the 150PS ones,....?"

The 2017 150 ps tdi Yeti had as much power as I ever needed.... so much better than the 110 Yeti i had in 2010 and the 105 greenline in 2014. (Was the most powerful car I had ever had up to then)

 

However I now have a 190ps Karoq which is another step up again and effortless to drive.

8 hours ago, kenfowler3966 said:

The 2017 150 ps tdi Yeti had as much power as I ever needed.... so much better than the 110 Yeti i had in 2010 and the 105 greenline in 2014. (Was the most powerful car I had ever had up to then)

 

However I now have a 190ps Karoq which is another step up again and effortless to drive.

Could you give me an insight as to how the karoq is better please?

 

is yours a diesel?

It feels bigger inside, particularly in width and length, boot is longer from rear to seats, seats are more comfortable, and ride is fantastic compared to Yeti, even though my car has the 19" wheels as standard. Actually running on the 16" winter wheels I bought for my Yeti now, third winters use, and the ride is even better on these.

I never had a spare in the Yeti as it took too much of the boot. My Karoq came without a spare, but I have now retroffitted a spacesaver. This does take space in the 4x4 that I have but is still acceptable. In the 2wd you can fit a spacesaver with no loss of bootspace in existing floor recess, or indeed have a full size spare and raise the floor as you have to in the 4x4.

The auto brake works so much better with the dsg than having to keep your foot on the brake in the Yeti.

The Karoq just feels a generation newer, as design is 8 years newer than Yeti and there has been so much advance in technology.

I have a foot sensor operated tailgate, my wife could never shut the Yeti tailgate.

My car has the rear camera as standard, sensors for vehicles to the side, auto braking if you are about to reverse into something, digital dash etc, although some of these would have been extras.

The 4x4 Karoq has a better rear suspension design with independent links compared to the 2wd Karoqs, and the 190ps diesel is so smooth and powerful, and quiet.

 

What you actually get though depends on the model. I had the Yeti 150 dsg SEL Drive, with a rear camera, rear airbags, underbody protection and other extras. Now have the Karoq Edition with some extras. (Some I don't need as well such as rear seat heaters & towbar prep, but thats what happens when you buy a car from the showroom. Would have liked underbody protection and rear airbags, but can't have everything and make the decision and collect car next day)

50 minutes ago, kenfowler3966 said:

What you actually get though depends on the model. I had the Yeti 150 dsg SEL Drive, with a rear camera, rear airbags, underbody protection and other extras. Now have the Karoq Edition with some extras. (Some I don't need as well such as rear seat heaters & towbar prep, but thats what happens when you buy a car from the showroom. Would have liked underbody protection and rear airbags, but can't have everything and make the decision and collect car next day)

 

Snap.  With a fully loaded 2016 Yeti 150 SE L Drive, albeit a manual one and a 2019 Karoq SE L 190 TDI in the drive, that's pretty much how I'd have described the differences between the two. If I'd add one word to describe the difference, it would be refinement.

Having said that, the Yeti is a quirky, compact crossover while the Karoq is a main stream VAG, mid-sized SUV; with everything that implies as the difference between them. 

 

Likewise the buying experience.  We wandered into the showroom with a view to changing my wife's 2016 Tiguan 184 TDI.  We were looking for a 190 TDI Karoq and they just happened to have one in stock with heated leather, heated steering wheel with paddles, heated windscreen, front Isofix and a spare wheel.  It's in white, not a colour we'd have chosen but it was a rare car and the dealership did it at a good price.  

 

I'v now got the Karoq on the 17" Audi alloys and Dunlop D5 Winter Sport that I previously had fitted to the Tiguan, rather than the 17" wheels with Bridgestone Turanzas that it came with.  I've also got a set of 16's that I previously used on three Tiguans but I've found 17's to offer the best ride, handling and steering compromise. 

@kenfowler3966 thank you very much for a fantastic explanation I think I should go look at a karoq.

 

@Schtum you’ve hit the nail on the head - the quirky nature of the yeti was irs biggest appeal for me, at the time my wife wanted a countryman and I just couldn’t do it.

 

The VW sales approach is poor in our experience as well which has never made any sense to me, the Audi dealer we bought the Q2 from were great.

 

I want to thank everyone for their contribution, I have a lot to mull over in the coming weeks.

One more question if you don’t mind, bearing in mind my experience is of the 110 diesel would I be prone to DPF regen issues if I went down the diesel route on a daily commute of c.20 miles on A/B roads with an EU6 diesel yeti.

 

The 110 became a challenge on a weekly basis so my wife ended up detouring around the M54 periodically to minimise the regen requests.

The DPF might not be an issue for your use, but do you really need a diesel for that short a commute?

The SCR system at 5 years old plus might be something to consider. 

Faults might well be expensive.