Hi, I’m soon about to purchase a 2014 (64 reg) vRS Fabia, which has done 55k, one lady owner and full service history with Skoda. Sounds like a dream.. 

 

the story starts with me approaching her to see if she wanted to sell and she hadn’t actually thought about it as she used the car daily and it worked so no need to change. But since going around there she decided she would sell for the right price as she is due a newer car anyway. I did ask her about any issues with the car, especially the oil consumption etc, but being a elder lady she didn’t seem to have noticed anything and it always worked when she wanted it too. So as far as I’m aware it’s good as gold.
 

Anyway the Skoda has just had a full service and MOT and had a few advisories. One of which was “oil leak, but not excessive (8.4.1 (a) (I))”. The other advisories was tyres and brake pad.

 

This hasn’t shown up on any other MOT the cars had as far as I can see anyway. The car itself looks immaculate and has always been well looked after. Can tell by the exterior of the car and the size of the house!! Haha 

 

anyway, would that advisory be the start of the dreaded oil issues with the vRS or is it a case of the MoT inspector being abit hot on the day? I Havnt confronted her about this issue yet and Havnt had a look at the engine bay myself yet. 
 

I’ve blind offered her £6k for the car as is, but I will be test driving and having a proper look at the car myself before handing over any money. 
 

any advice welcome, and would appreciate honest opinions, as I would rather walk away than risk it. 

My now 96 year old mum used to have Mk2 vRS's with her as a registered keeper when me and other family members drove them and she never.

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So is this elderly lady the actual and only driver?

She was often the registered keeper of many cars we owned.

 

 

Lots of checking needed.  General buying a Mk2 vRS type checks.

 

What Service History has it from Main Dealers.  FMDSH shows what has not been done as well as what has.

Check the 'Warranty History' as well.

 

New Discs and pads are not expensive.

Worn tyres not unusual, but is the suspension worn, wheels kerbed,needing work.

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Is the back box looking like it needs replacing?

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Did they get the Brake Fluid changed in 2017 and again since.  If not that would be something you will likely be getting done.

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Where the spark plugs changed in the past or at this service?

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Air Filter or Pollen Filter changed at this service.

 

The 'oil leak' needs to be clarified.

Is it just the Sump Plug, is it at the Oil Filter, is it someplace else from the engine or is it from the MCU on the DSG.

 

There was a Service Campaign '34H5' on some DSG's from 2013-2015. 

That was a software update because of possible leaks that could occur / pressure issues.

That should have been done if required.

 

Here is a 2014 CTHE car, one lady owner  that got a new MCU.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/432730-oil-leak

 

All Service Campaigns or Recall actions should have been done.

http://skoda-auto.com/services/recall-actions

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 27 April, 20215 yr by e-Roottoot

I will check above on proper viewing. Thanks for reply. Really don’t want to walk away from this but if it is inevitably going to cause me issues at a later date I’d rather not go ahead with it. (I get all cars have issues, I’m not naive to that! Haha) but a engine isn’t something I’d want to replace at a later date! 

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Have you already driven a Mk2 vRS and know how they drive and how they should behave?

 

The CTHE from 2014 engine should be less of a worry, but they are still ones that you want to be sure about.

You want to know that '34H5' was done if it should have been. 

 

You want to check the Warranty History to see if the car ever required 'Oil consumption tests'.

You want to check it is the original engine and not a replacement, but a replacement would not be a bad thing.

to be perfectly honest, I stamped history from a dealer really don't mean much unless you "know" the car.

 

Checking screen wash level is a "service item" and anyone can do that.

 

I would consider ALL the things mentioned regarding pads and all the filters etc and even an oil change something to just budget to do yourself so you know where you are.

 

My car had a fully stamped Skoda history when I bought it 3 years old................. it still had the original air filter in it.

If the car is "right" then thats the basis "imo". You can tell a car thats been looked after regardless of what the service book says.

 

Not sure what 34H5 was exaclty, the number is quoted all the time on here but I have yet to see the "official" documentation, not even sure it exists on here.

Mine is a july 2013 and mine has had no recall or service campaign, I checked with local dealer so I doubt a 2014 car would need it.

 

As mentioned its a CTHE, so "best of the worst" as they say.

 

I think £6000 for a 2014 car is cheap, would be atleast £6995 on a forecourt, maybe even more also depending on options fitted to it.

 

 

'34H5'  started in 2017 covers a number of DQ200's from 2013-2015 in many models / applications across the VW Group and there are those with Mk2 vRS that had it.

Ones that did not require '34F7' which covered 2009-2012, then there was a period of DQ200 from Autumn 2012 that required nothing, then 2013 off we go again.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/425419-dsg-gearbox

 

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/425424-2017-another-dq200-7-speed-dsg-service-campaign

 

2019 in Australia it started all over again but seems to be more with vehicles missed previously from the first Recall & 2nd Service campaign there.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/473186-another-dsg-recall

 

From the 1st linked thread.

 

 

Edited 27 April, 20215 yr by e-Roottoot

I did not mean to seem I did not think it exists, what I mean is there is just loads of links to discussions, not just here.........but germany, Austrailia and all over the place.....

 

I am VERY surprised that know one has obtained the offical documentation and posted somewhere.

 

I would like to see what it actually says. It must exist in PDF format "somewhere"

 

Seeing "carried out 34H5" means nothing..... want to see the detail !!!

Edited 27 April, 20215 yr by UrbanPanzer

I am sure since you are interested that you will be able to get the TPI somehow and can find out if you want what the software update was that was carried out.

Edited 27 April, 20215 yr by e-Roottoot

On 27/04/2021 at 20:41, e-Roottoot said:

I am sure since you are interested that you will be able to get the TPI somehow and can find out if you want what the software update was that was carried out.

After this update my VRS mk2 car was detuned to 173bhp when I had it dyno'd. Then after oil fixes modded back up to low 200. Touchwood DSG is fine to say it's over 10 years old now & that's on a CAVE

@Kobayashi  Why would your CAVE engine car have had '34H5' carried out which was for some DSG's built from 2013-2015?

(Started in 2017)

 

* Separate from the DSG Software updates,

There were different 'Software Updates' on CAVE engine car ECU's from 2010 for the Excessive Oil Use, first an update, then with the Breather Mod another Software Update, (There was Breather Mod 2 carried out in Australia) then with the 'Oil Spray Jet' Upgrade yet another Software Update'. 

There are 3 externally different ECU's, & also with different Factory Software, 2 on CAVE cars, Locked or not locked.  CTHE have different looking ECU's and with Different Software / Engine Management and there were software updates carried out on these from late 2012-2014.*

 

'34F7' was the Service Campaign on some DSG's produced from 2009-2012, and involved replacing  the Synthetic Oil with mineral oil and doing a software update.

Late 2012-2013 there were DQ200 DSG's that neither got '34F7' or '34H5',  the pinned thread at the top includes in later pages owners of these DSG's that had

issues.

This was when it started. (2014)

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/314923-fabia-recall

 

 

Edited 29 April, 20215 yr by e-Roottoot

On 27/04/2021 at 20:41, e-Roottoot said:

I am sure since you are interested that you will be able to get the TPI somehow and can find out if you want what the software update was that was carried out.

After this update my VRS mk2 car was detuned to 173bhp when I had it dyno'd. Then after oil fixes modded back up to low 200. Touchwood DSG is fine to say it's over 10 years old now & that's on a CAVE

After 34F7 it had another ECU update before the oil mods in 2016. They did this before the oil fixes and it didn't solve oil issues, then had the breather oil jet oil fixes + Another ECU update and the oil problem solved but car was 'detuned' . The tuning shop know they run rich and altered the map from 173 back to around 202bhp for me