MFSW problems

[Taz1983]

I've fitted a MFSW and the steering control module + wiring to a 2007 Octavia. I bought 1K0-953-549-CF originally but this didn't have the G85 sensor built-in, so now I bought 1K0-953-549-AQ which was fitted to the same year car as mine. 

 

With AQ cruise didn't work, but I did get the buttons working. Now I can't for the life of me programme the buttons to work? They light up but I've selected everything in VCDS I can see. Also, the wheel feels heavier, but I haven't calibrated it yet properly, and it is showing position in VCDS. 

 

Can anyone help me? Have I done something drastically wrong? I thought AQ would solve my problems!

 

Cheers

[langers2k]

It might be worth posting an autoscan from before you started changing things and a second one showing the current state

 

It would also be helpful to know which MFSW you've fitted.

[Taz1983]

1 hour ago, langers2k said:

It might be worth posting an autoscan from before you started changing things and a second one showing the current state

 

It would also be helpful to know which MFSW you've fitted.

 

Hi

 

I haven't / didn't save anything from the previous setup.

 

The settings I have for the controller are as they were when the buttons did work.

 

The wheel I am using is a MFSW w/o cruise or voice control (cruise & trip computer are stalk operated).

 

Wheel, airbag, controller and wiring all from the same donor car, a 2006 Octavia.

 

If possible, could you tell me what getting that print-out would do? I have only modified settings within the steering controller. 

 

Cheers

[Taz1983]

If you want that readout, I need to unplug the battery and connect the old steering controller (original). It can be done just takes a bit of time but if you think it's necessary I'll do it. Just amazed things aren't working right now.

[langers2k]

A current autoscan will help us understand how your car is equipt and configured plus any fault codes that may be relevant.

 

The old autoscan will confirm the original part number and coding which may help with the new coding.

 

If you've ever done an autoscan previously, it's probably been saved in C:\Ross-Tech\VCDS\Scans

[Taz1983]

3 hours ago, langers2k said:

A current autoscan will help us understand how your car is equipt and configured plus any fault codes that may be relevant.

 

The old autoscan will confirm the original part number and coding which may help with the new coding.

 

If you've ever done an autoscan previously, it's probably been saved in C:\Ross-Tech\VCDS\Scans

 

Hi

 

Important numbers are in original post. Original is a midline with steering angle sensor built-in, I can confirm exactly tomorrow but not sure is any relevance as it didn't have the functionality for the MFSW. 

 

With the lights on the wheel lit up, it's obviously getting power. Do you know where I can check operation of the buttons? 

 

I haven't touched the gateway module between changing the steering controller so can't see it being that. 

 

The steering module settings mirror those I configured the "wrong" module to accept, and the only thing that didn't work was the steering angle, and cruise didn't work.

 

Cruise works now, can't get my wheel to find centre and the buttons don't work. 

 

Tempted to go back to standard for now. Or would be helpful if someone with MFSW could share settings with me.

 

Thanks

 

 

[langers2k]

The coding will depend on what is fitted to your car, there is no guarantee the coding from someone else will be correct for you...

 

You can check the operation of the buttons using the measuring blocks.

[Taz1983]

This is in the current configuration. I cannot for some reason modify any radio settings, showing me error 31.

Chassis Type: 1Z (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 76

VIN: TMBBS21Z6780108XX   Mileage: 208560km-129593miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.clb
   Part No SW: 03G 906 021 LB    HW: 03G 906 021 LB
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG  8501  
   Revision: --H02---    Serial number: SKZ7Z0F3662083
   Coding: 0000071
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 6ADB77AF457FE0D6AD-803E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 P
   Component: ASR FRONT MK70      0105  
   Coding: 0017025
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 3F8DF6FB6E7DB57E2A-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1Z0 907 044 H
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 084 0305  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3B7582EB7A65A95E06-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 E    HW: 3C0 937 049 E
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002  
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000004252378
   Coding: 418A0F030004140000110D000000000000087F075C
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 2B55B2AB8A0539DE96-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Z2 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer SK351  012  0401  
   Coding: 00063477
   Shop #: WSC 73430  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AE  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RLS     220606 014  1201  
   Coding: 00471077
   Shop #: WSC 73430  

3 Faults Found:
00987 - Lamp for Brake Light; Left (M9) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 64
                    Mileage: 208219 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 13.40 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00156 - Control Circuit for Windshield Washer Pump 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 102
                    Mileage: 208390 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 12.20 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

02398 - Control Circuit for Rear Windshield Washer Pump 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00111001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 102
                    Mileage: 208390 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 12.20 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: Q4 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD0KNUTM  
   Coding: 0020788
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 3D718CF36471A76E38-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME10504D6FF

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME10745B088

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AQ    HW: 1K0 953 549 AQ
   Component: J0527           036 0070  
   Coding: 0002042
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 010930035809038E1C-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           002 0010

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Z0 920 912 D    HW: 1Z0 920 912 D
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VD1 1610  
   Revision: V1610036    Serial number: SKZ7Z0F3662083
   Coding: 0007401
   Shop #: WSC 28061 210 61833
   VCID: 366393DF41477436F9-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 S    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H16 0210  
   Revision:   H16       Serial number: 34000000000000
   Coding: E9807F0E000202004301
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 377D9EDB464D8D3EE2-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 920 912 D    HW: 1Z0 920 912 D
   Component: IMMO            VD1 1610  
   Revision: V1610036    Serial number: SKZ7Z0F3662083
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 366393DF41477436F9-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 D    HW: 1T0 959 701 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0954  
   Coding: 0000758
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 387F9DE74B538246EB-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 L
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.069 H07 1806  
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 356194D35C417F2EF0-8060

2 Faults Found:
02546 - Steering Limit Stop 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 208510 km
                    Temperature: 55.0°C
                    Voltage: 12.80 V
                    Voltage: 12.60 V

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0202  
   Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 01801A085283007F3F04850540085F96907CA0
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 03053A0B4215119E0E-8056

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1Z0 951 171 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.008 4801  
   Coding: 00000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430  

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 B
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H07 7001

   Subsystem 7 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

1 Fault Found:
00896 - Trunk Lock Unit (F256) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 25
                    Reset counter: 104
                    Mileage: 207990 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 04:26:40

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 D    HW: 1T0 959 702 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0934  
   Coding: 0000758
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 397998E370599B4E14-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 B    HW: 6RD 035 187 B
   Component: Radio         541 5538  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: VWZZZ4H6290655
   Coding: 0E000400040005
   Shop #: WSC 127395 840 08317
   VCID: 4683E31FF1A7E4B669-8012

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 63
                    Mileage: 208461 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 19:01:53

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 J    HW: 1K0 959 703 J
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0905  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544
   VCID: 377D9EDB464D8D3EE2-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 J    HW: 1K0 959 704 J
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0905  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544
   VCID: 387F9DE74B538246EB-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 1Z0-919-283.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Z0 919 283 B    HW: 1Z0 919 283 B
   Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H04 0020  
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 3D718CF36471A76E38-8068

No fault code found.

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[langers2k]

That all looks pretty happy, it's certainly the coding I would have used and the XXXXXX is normal. The measuring blocks can be used to check for the MFSW function.

 

You need to do the G85 calibration: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Steering_Assist#Sensor_for_Steering_Angle_.28G85.29

 

Might be worth checking "Channel 009: Steering Angle Sensor" is set correctly too...

 

Error 31 isn't uncommon, it typically means you're trying to set an invalid coding and the module is refusing it. Assuming your VCDS is genuine, you could always make a thread over on Rosstech's forums as they may have more insight

[Taz1983]

Thanks for the reply

 

Only when following the rosstech guide could I get G85 to calibrate. It has just sorted itself now, but took me a few days.

 

So I'm back to where I was originally, functioning car without MFSW. They light up, they're getting power, so can only assume it's a software config issue but I find it strange using the wrong module without G85 the buttons did work. I'm not really in the mood to disconnect the battery again and do the G85 party but I can say that the settings I'm using now are the same I was using then.

 

The amendments I'm trying to make to the gateway module I have changed before, so it is strange they've stopped working now.

 

Anyway, I'll see if I can check the blocks now.

 

Cheers

[Taz1983]

Does 01317 have any significance? 

 

I can't seem to be able to modify anything in "Radio" now, at all. Previously I obviously could as I've fitted the RCD330 headunit and had to disable backup camera. 

 

The button on the wheel to light it up works, so it is registering. I don't know where to look for the other buttons in VCDS?

[langers2k]

Given nothing else is complaining about missing comms with the cluster, it could just be the RCD330 is confused? The car is much older than it would have been originally installed in.

 

If the buttons worked normally with the CF but not with the AQ , that would suggest they need LIN 2.0 rather than 1.3 as that's the most obvious difference between the modules.

 

I don't think I'm familiar enough with the pre-FL and it's MFSW to comment further I'm afraid :(

[Taz1983]

1 hour ago, langers2k said:

Given nothing else is complaining about missing comms with the cluster, it could just be the RCD330 is confused? The car is much older than it would have been originally installed in.

 

If the buttons worked normally with the CF but not with the AQ , that would suggest they need LIN 2.0 rather than 1.3 as that's the most obvious difference between the modules.

 

I don't think I'm familiar enough with the pre-FL and it's MFSW to comment further I'm afraid :(

 

Interesting observation. The wheel is from a 2006, the car is a 2007, with an updated gateway to stop battery drain with the RCD330. 

 

My brother has a 2010 Golf I can plug into to see what that has, as that has the RCD510 + MFSW which should broadly be similar.

 

But I have never seen anyone mention the steering module can cause this, in any thread I've read about the RCD330, but it could be just that. 

[Taz1983]

I've put an order in for 1K)953549CH. I will update once fitted to see if this solves the problem, which would mean MFSW + RCD330 requires LIN 2.0.

 

 

[Taz1983]

To revive an old thread but we're still not there.

 

Am I right this combination should work?

 

Clock spring - 1K0959653D

Controller - 1K0953549CH

steering wheel 3T0419091K

3C8971584A - harness

 

Is there anything I'm missing?

 

I have

1K0959653c clock spring at the moment and think that is causing issues with button presses not recognised but at this stage I have no idea?

 

If someone can help me a bit, would appreciate. Tried following some comments here;

 but I don't have those options in the steering controller #16

 

[Taz1983]

Looks like need 5K0-953-569 to use the FL MFSW I have. What a hassle.