I notice that, if I press the lock-all-doors button in the centre console (so all doors lock and the button light turns on) and then a door is manually opened from the inside, the "all doors are locked" light goes out (which, technically, is accurate) but no other doors are unlocked (which sort-of makes sense). The problem with this is that the other doors do remain locked. So, problematic use case (happens routinely when my wife is in the passenger seat and I'm in the driver seat):

We've pressed the lock-all-doors button. All doors lock. The light on the button comes on.

Either one of us (or both) gets out of the front seats. Light goes out. Rear doors stay locked. 

Some time later (could be thirty seconds, that's all it takes to forget 😹) one or the other of us tries to open a rear door to put something in/ take something out.

Cursing ensues, followed by (if I recall correctly, at least sometimes) two presses of the lock-all-doors button, to re-lock all (because that's what the button does when any door is not locked) and then unlock all (to get the rear door unlocked).

I'm honestly not sure what the "right" pattern would be. I certainly don't want all doors unlocking when just a door is manually opened from the inside. And I don't suppose it would be exactly accurate to have the lock-all-doors button's light stay on when any door has been unlocked (by being manually opened from the inside).

But, equally, it's wrong for that light to go out which feels like it means "all doors are unlocked". (I know, it doesn't mean that, but the fact that this keeps happening to us says that the user experience of that button and its light is .. imperfect).

First, are there any settings at all that I might consider to change this behavior?

Second, just for discussion (since I imagine it can't really be changed in our existing cars - or, can it?) is there any other way this could/should work?

cheers,

 

My comments are from my non Kessy car, so might not be the same if yours is kessy vehicle. 

 

Taking the key out the ignition will allow all doors to be opened from the outside, if the all lock button has been pressed,  although possibly not a practical solution in every case if you're dropping off? 

 

One question,  do you need to manually press the interior lock button anyway at all. I rarely use mine, just when dropping off perhaps with engine running. Car then autolocks again once moving. 

 

Is automatic locking ticked in infotainment menu, CAR, "settings",  "locking"? You could leave that off and then not use the manual button inside to lock all doors at all, unless you feel you need to have all the doors locked when driving around. 

Edited 6 September, 20214 yr by paulski

Hi @paulski,

I have auto-lock/ auto-unlock turned off. I don't particularly like the car locking automatically, and I especially don't like it ever unlocking automatically.

So, yes, per my preferences, I do need to use the lock-all/unlock-all button.

thanks,

Jay

 

I wonder if your issue might be linked to "safe lock" that activates when it locks via the button. Just a thought..

Edited 6 September, 20214 yr by paulski

I'm not sure I understand. If I get "safe lock" right, that's the ability to open a door from the inside (by default) unless the remote key fob lock button has been pressed twice, right?

I'm happy with safe lock. I have no children nor pets, and I agree that it should generally be possible to escape the vehicle from the inside without having to explicitly unlock the door first.

So, yes, maybe Safe Lock is involved in the logic that results in the 'game' of "All doors are locked light on the lock-all-doors button goes out, now guess which doors are still locked"...

I still wonder whether it's even possible for it to make more sense (without adding more lights/ light colors on the lock-all-doors button, or some other kind of rather obvious indication).

 

  

11 hours ago, paulski said:

I wonder if your issue might be linked to "safe lock" that activates when it locks via the button. Just a thought..