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My 60 was ordered mid July, and with the £2500 grant of course, but goodness knows when I'll actually receive the car with the chip delays and things.  But now I see rumours about Cop26 next month and possibility of VAT being paid by the government as an alternative to the current grant.

 

Everyone's talking about long delivery times and delays going well in to next year and how the dates the cars are ordered can bear little reflection on the actual delivery date.

 

Might it be that I end up receiving my car later than someone else who has not yet even ordered theirs and with them paying thousands less because of the VAT grant switch, if it happens ? ain't this all a bleeedin mess.

No idea on the rumours, but first thing to do is find out if the grant is paid on delivery or order date.

 

Other thing is to look at it and how much deposit you put down. If you paid £500 but stand to save a couple of thousand, then you might as well cancel and reorder.

 

Until it’s released you won’t really know.

The UK Chancellor will speak tomorrow, then do a budget in 2022.

With EV's or Hybrids or even ICE vehicles there can be a change that takes affect when ever or maybe in April and even an announcement that changes stuff overnight for buyers & business users as happened last time. 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/478982-grant-for-evs-cut-in-2020-budget-then-without-notice-changes-introduced-on-the-18th-march-2021

 

The UK Government will do whatever for the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland.

Then there might well be Grants or Loans in Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland as there is currently in Scotland for Interest Free loans and Grants for Business's. 

 

 

 

Edited by roottoot

yes there's lots of unknowns, i think electric cars will probably gets cheaper, whether that is with manufacturers reducing prices or government discounts, who knows.

maybe the government will slap an extra tax on new petrol and diesel cars, to effectively force buyers into electric

as you say it's all a bit of a mess, new car buyers are being given over optimistic delivery dates and if you are not prepared to wait , you have to pay way over the odds for a second hand car and the value of that 2nd hand car will drop like a stone when things get back to normal.

                i was thinking about this scenario the other day,  you sign up for a new car which has a list price with extras of say £39k, your told 8 or 9 months delivery time, during this time, manufacturers increase prices [ which is probably gonna happen ] , taking the car above £40k list,   you would probably still get the car for the original agreed price [ maybe]  but you'd get hit with the extra road tax cost which over 5 or 6 years ownership would cost near enough another £2k and  you'd be unable to get out of the contract as extra road tax cost nothing to do with the  manufacturer 😂

17 hours ago, 310golfr said:

i was thinking about this scenario the other day,  you sign up for a new car which has a list price with extras of say £39k, your told 8 or 9 months delivery time, during this time, manufacturers increase prices [ which is probably gonna happen ] , taking the car above £40k list,   you would probably still get the car for the original agreed price [ maybe]  but you'd get hit with the extra road tax cost which over 5 or 6 years ownership would cost near enough another £2k and  you'd be unable to get out of the contract as extra road tax cost nothing to do with the  manufacturer 

Did you realise that taking an EV over £40k wouldn't incur those extra charges?

The Craziness & the Simply Clever is that taking it to £35,000 gets you it for £32,500.  Well while they are available.

2 hours ago, john999boy said:

Did you realise that taking an EV over £40k wouldn't incur those extra charges?

no, thought over  £40k   tax applied to all cars  😀

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Thanks all for the replies, everything said bares relevance.

 

Well the budgets been and gone with nothing about EV's, so its on with Cop26 next.

 

I'm in process trying to make up my mind what charger to buy, I switched to Octopus for their tariffs and charger install they provide, I'll probably get the 'wallbox', Octopus say its compatible with their "latest smart tariff - Octopus Intelligent"; but what about when its time to switch provider, will this compatibility be of any us then? and might the government come up with improved help getting a home equipped with a charger at next months Cop conference, the current £350 grant barely covers half the cost.

 

Dealers saying its delivery in 2022 now. Dual mass flywheel in my 18 year old Passat's nearly buggered again and I don't want to pay hundreds to fix it, so it looks like my bikes going to have to get hoisted out of the conservatory where it's been since 2013 and get moted ready for the road, in winter.  Why's buying a new car got to be so HARD?

I am hopeful that i can get joined up to that or something affordable Mid January when my Eon Tariff expires.

I left Octopus to them because i was not home charging as i was charging Free at Public Chargers.

Eon seem to not be able to offer me a EV charging tarrif now even though i will take a Smart Meter and have a home charger.

At present i am 18 pence a kWh on Electric and only 7 pence a day Standing Charge and now know 27 p a kWh and 27 pence a day SC is pretty much what i will have to expect Jan till April and then who knows what.

 

The Council Chargers i use are going from Free to 23 pence a kWh from Monday.

So i will free charge about 30 miles south before i get home when on trips & then top up free at a Tesco 7kw charger, and if needs must charge on my Granny Charger or just pre heat the battery and interior on it at 18 pence a kWh. 

 

Just messing about at seeing how long i can keep running an EV as cheap as possible.

I have done a total of 22,000 miles in EV's in 18 months for 2 Charge Place Scotland Cards @ £20 each and £17.20 at InstaVolt. 

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I got caught out swapping from Eon (I had stayed on with them due to a good tariff) swapping to Octopus just before the massive hike in energy cost, I don't even know what tariff I'm actually on with Octopus, I daren't go look, but somethings got to be done about it; no point going for a night time low tariff though! I ain't even got an EV to charge at night, its like I said, its all a mess.

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