1 hour ago, lol-lol said:

What ICE drivers don't appreciate , I expect, is that EV drivers can be hyper accurate on what they need to put in the car. Whilst ICE drivers generally put in a tankful, or maybe half a tank if at motorway service's high prices, EV drivers can, to be economical, just put in enough to get them home plus maybe a 20 mile buffer.

What makes you believe that load of guff? Most ICE drivers are well aware of what their MPG is and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to quickly calculate how many gallons are required to get you back home and possibly to another filling station where much cheapness can be enjoyed on the fuel, for instance, there is a Shell garage near me that has diesel @ £1.69 a litre and there is a BP garage where I can get diesel @ £1.33 a litre.

Now my car is currently doing with a mix of urban and town driving roughly 45mpg so that 31 miles that Evolution13 speaks of only costs me £4.13.

2 hours ago, Evolution13 said:

@Graham Butcher & buying a used PHEV is just too risky IMO as you have no idea if it was run mainly as an electrified car mainly driven on electric and the ICE seldom being fired up. Recently i read on this forum someone saying their mothers Yaris Hybrid kept getting a flat battery. That is not uncommon for people who think a mile or 2 to the shops each day can be done on electric only and no engine firing up to charge up the batteries. Since i can register any car or van as Disabled class and am exempt from VED i am still looking and considering what 2 get as my next vehicle for longer trips. I think it will be a diesel i go for and not a Petrol MHEV. Certainly not a BEV or PHEV.

True, unless you're buying a pure petrol or diesel secondhand cars, then buying a used car is now going to be a real minefield and is highly likely to be an expensive ownership proposition. The reason being that any of the alternatives, MHEV, PHEV or BEV there are so many factors that can and will come into play. A BEV, you can get a SOH report on the battery to take away some of the risk. But with hybrids, you get the added levels of complexity which could well cause buyers massive bills.
Some petrol cars these days come with Active Cylinder Technology, shutting down some cylinders once at a crusing speed, which again adds further complexity.

Edited 26 February26 Feb by Graham Butcher

14 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

What makes you believe that load of guff? Most ICE drivers are well aware of what their MPG is and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to quickly calculate how many gallons are required to get you back home and possibly to another filling station where much cheapness can be enjoyed on the fuel, for instance, there is a Shell garage near me that has diesel @ £1.69 a litre and there is a BP garage where I can get diesel @ £1.33 a litre.

Now my car is currently doing with a mix of urban and town driving roughly 45mpg so that 31 miles that Evolution13 speaks of only costs me £4.13.

Driving a million miles in 50 or so ICE cars and my experience of 4 EVs, 3 I still have. Traction system details can be known to fractions of percent where as ICE vehicle, based on the amount of liquid in the fuel tank you are looking at being only as close to the nearest 1000 cc. Whilst not great for EV batteries to get down to 0% State of Charge displayed part of my choice of Renault is the very large lower buffer as shown below by Bjorn Nyland, a man of such rigorous testing and therefore influence that Toyota has listened to him. I know in my Renaults I can go ten miles past 0% SoC displayed and drive another 18 before it asks me to park up. When I did that in my ICE cars one can hear the fuel pump whining as it is gulping down air and probably cavitating and damaging the fuel pump blades and motor with the air involved. Modern ICE cars need about 5 litre left in the fuel system just to keep fuel constantly whirring around the system. I can judge my EVs down to kilojoules which weigh next to nothing. Renault "5" 46 km buffer below 0% SoC and 38 km for Ariya/Scenic......

Car	Odometer	Zero buffer	Zero range	Temp	Linear power drop	Linear power gain	Final warning	Bricked	Comments
2022 Tesla Model 3 SR+ LFP	205 km	6,9 kWh	56	9°C	No	Yes	Yes	No
2025 Renault 5 E-Tech	3300 km	4,7 kWh	46	14°C	Yes, but no display	Yes	Yes	No
2022 Nissan Ariya 87 kWh FWD	3251 km	5,1 kWh	38	8°C	Yes	Yes	No	No
2022 Tesla Model Y Performance	1918 km	4,1 kWh	34	22°C	Yes	Yes	Yes	No
2023 Toyota bZ4X	3080 km	5,1 kWh	33	11°C	Yes	Yes	Yes	No
2022 Renault Megane E-Tech 60 kWh	12889 km	1,7 kWh	27	6°C	Yes	Yes	Yes	No
2023 MG4 Long Range	12511 km	3,0 kWh	24	20°C	No	No	No	Yes	6 kW limp mode
2023 Hyundai Ioniq 6 RWD	6248 km	2,9 kWh	24	11°C	Yes	Yes	No		5 kW limp mode
2024 Polestar 2 LR DM	3084 km	2,9 kWh	22	12°C	Yes, mostly	Yes	No	No
2022 BMW i4 M50	3333 km	2,8 kWh	20	24°C	Yes	Yes	No	No
2022 Kia Niro EV 64 kWh	2752 km	2,3 kWh	19	13°C	Yes, but no display	Yes	No	Yes
2024 Kia EV3 LR	17000 km	2,4 kWh	18	12°C	Yes	Yes	Not tested	No
2022 VW ID Buzz 82 kWh	2726 km	2,7 kWh	15	7°C	Yes	No	Yes	Yes
2023 VW ID3 62 kWh facelift	2300 km	1,9 kWh	13	26°C	Yes	No	Yes	Yes
2024 Volvo EX30 Twin Performance	5500 km	1,9 kWh	12	13°C	Yes, but no display	Yes	Not tested	No
2025 Mercedes CLA 350 4Matic	5000 km	1,4 kWh	10	3°C	Yes	Yes	Yes	No
2021 Nio ES8 100 kWh	13831 km	1,9 kWh	10	18°C	No	No	No	Yes	5 kW limp mode
2025 Mazda 6e Standard Range	9100 km	1,0 kWh	8	-2°C	Yes, but no display	Yes	Not tested	No	2 kW power limit
2023 VW ID7 Pro	11000 km	1,0 kWh	8	14°C	Yes	No	Yes	Yes	Died with 40 % power
2022 Mercedes EQS 450+	10503 km	1,2 kWh	7	19°C	Yes	Yes	Yes	No
2024 Audi Q6 e-tron Quattro	2767 km	0,9 kWh	6	15°C	Yes	Yes	Yes	No
2023 Fisker Ocean Extreme	6650 km	0,9 kWh	6	10°C	Yes, but no display	Yes	No	No
2025 Cupra Tavascan	6300 km	0,7 kWh	5	8°C	Yes, but no display	Yes	Yes	Not tested	Died with 40 % power
2014 VW e-Golf 24 kWh	138000 km	0,4 kWh	4	-4°C	Yes	Yes	No	No
2023 BYD Atto 3 60 kWh	12273 km	0,2 kWh	1	15°C	Yes, mostly	Yes	Yes	No
2022 Xpeng P7 Performance Wing Edition	13582 km	0,0 kWh	0	9°C	Yes, but no display	Yes	Yes	Yes
2022 MG Marvel R Performance	15463 km	0,0 kWh	0	12°C	Yes	Yes	No	No	Stopped at 1 %
2022 Hongqi E-HS9 99 kWh	10033 km	0,0 kWh	0	15°C	Yes, but no display	Yes	No
2019 Hyundai Ioniq 28 kWh	50369 km	0,0 kWh	0	26°C	Yes	Yes	Yes	No
2013 Nissan Leaf 24 kWh (FS)	87943 km	0,0 kWh	0	13°C	Yes	No	No	Yes	10 kW limp mode
2022 Audi e-tron 55	8715 km	0,0 kWh	-1	20°C	No	No	No	Yes	Slow updating BMS

TB test results.xlsx

Looking forward to the information from the DVSA / DVLA / Government on Mileage Checks annually and Battery Condition checks and whatever cunning stunts they are going to be coming up with after their 'Public consultations' and discussions with actual Car Dealers / Traders, Garages and Workshops and Manufacturers.

1 hour ago, Evolution13 said:

@lol-lol 20 to 30 mile buffers really not enough in Scotland or many other places. Last run home from Stirling it was just as well i had charged more than usually required. East of Perth there started to be ROAD CLOSED to Glamis notices. 15 miles later there was still no more info, then the Diversion Sign appeared. I ignored that and took a country road which is near parallel but does head up higher. It had some flooding on it, but it turned out to be shorter plus i used less electric and regened more over the last 5 miles down towards home. As to when up the Ski roads and into the Cairgorms a road closure can maybe be to get back south and need getting to chargers and these can be very hit or miss if working or not.

Not so much of a factor in Renaults with their buffer sizes as even if is using 0% displayed SoC as the reference one knows there is another 20 miles of below 0% buffer and the car will not even go into performance restriction warning until over 10 miles past 0%.

In Wales there is still a lack of chargers just like Scotland and one should allow and extra buffer.

I don't know the buffer on the new Mini Cooper E ie 36.7 kwh battery, but it sounds like it is small, maybe not even 10 km !!

55 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

Not so much of a factor in Renaults with their buffer sizes as even if is using 0% displayed SoC as the reference one knows there is another 20 miles of below 0% buffer and the car will not even go into performance restriction warning until over 10 miles past 0%.

In Wales there is still a lack of chargers just like Scotland and one should allow and extra buffer.

I don't know the buffer on the new Mini Cooper E ie 36.7 kwh battery, but it sounds like it is small, maybe not even 10 km !!

It is exceedingly bad practice to use your car in such a fashion; you should always be thinking that once your SoC reaches zero, that is it, no more left. The same applies to ICE, the car might well drive on for a few more miles once zero has been reached, but in an ICE car you might well be building up issues with all kinds of debris being sucked into the system. On a BEV, that extra buffer you go on about all the time is more than likely the batteries safety zone, reserved to ensure that your battery does not become a brick. Rechargeable Li-ion batteries once they reach a critical point will no longer accept a charge.

1 hour ago, Graham Butcher said:

It is exceedingly bad practice to use your car in such a fashion; you should always be thinking that once your SoC reaches zero, that is it, no more left. The same applies to ICE, the car might well drive on for a few more miles once zero has been reached, but in an ICE car you might well be building up issues with all kinds of debris being sucked into the system. On a BEV, that extra buffer you go on about all the time is more than likely the batteries safety zone, reserved to ensure that your battery does not become a brick. Rechargeable Li-ion batteries once they reach a critical point will no longer accept a charge.

Naaa.

The Battery Management System is the last word in what to do and what not to do and the State of Charge indicating the percentage just a guide.

The BMS is there to protect the manufacturer's vehicle and especially as most cars are lease or PCP it will do that with that in mind ie they are going to get the car back at some time in the future, probably only 10, 15, 20% thru the cars lifetime. So when, for example, my Scenic, will still allow full 125 KW power usage 11 miles past zero SoC shown that is what the BMS, applying its rules, is OK with. As the miles pile on past 0% shown, 15 miles, 20 miles etc, it will reduce the amount of power that can be used, ie back to 100 KWs, then a few miles later reduced to 75 KW, then few miles later down to 50 KW until it gets down to say 10 KWs when you really know it the BMS is telling you to get some charge. In a Renault you would have done more than 20 miles past 0% and in the case of the 55 KWh R5 you have done nearly 30 miles pas 0% SoC shown.

Trust the BMS in all cars.

Clearly be aware, as from Bjorn Nyland's tests, that Audis, Mercedes (including this year's European Car of the Year) have much smaller, or non existent buffers compared to Renaults and TESLAs !!

Edited 26 February26 Feb by lol-lol

21 hours ago, lol-lol said:

What ICE drivers don't appreciate , I expect, is that EV drivers can be hyper accurate on what they need to put in the car. Whilst ICE drivers generally put in a tankful, or maybe half a tank if at motorway service's high prices, EV drivers can, to be economical, just put in enough to get them home plus maybe a 20 mile buffer. Hence put in the bare minimum and do as much charging at home using the lecky that is about a tenth of the price.

Perhaps what some EV drivers forget or ignore is that it's not that difficult to do a very minor diversion and pick up cheaper fuel rather than pay motorway prices especially on regular long trips. For our regular trips to Germany I have a couple of locations that are no more of a diversion than a regular motorway services and you pay what is more or less the going rate for that area.

I'm not aware that public rapid charging has massive variation by location so you are fairly stuck paying the extortionate rate wherever you go.

You can be be pretty much stuck paying high Rapid or Ultra Charging prices pretty much all over the country if you do not have 'Subscription rates' or are near TESLA Superchargers. 65 pence and above a kWh even if getting 4.5 miles a kWh is too damn much.

1 hour ago, Dieselgate said:

Perhaps what some EV drivers forget or ignore is that it's not that difficult to do a very minor diversion and pick up cheaper fuel rather than pay motorway prices especially on regular long trips. For our regular trips to Germany I have a couple of locations that are no more of a diversion than a regular motorway services and you pay what is more or less the going rate for that area. I'm not aware that public rapid charging has massive variation by location so you are fairly stuck paying the extortionate rate wherever you go.

Figures of the percentage of home, and destination, charger, vary on various sites, I have seen 85 % quoted by Nissan and also seen figures of over 90% for home and then there can also be some destination charging. Most of our offices / warehouses have destination chargers which are charged out at about 30p per KWh so not 8p per KWh like at home but not the 69, 79, 89 per KWh which is the full displayed price of Public charging in the UK. If I was public charging regularly in the UK I would look at one of the subscription services, Gridserve, Ionity etc. If my conscious allows me I could pay 30p per KWh at Frankley South services Tesla chargers, or 55p per KWh at busier times.

Imagine a motorway diesel or petrol supplier selling fuel at less than £1` a litre ?

https://www.tesla.com/en_gb/findus/location/supercharger/332657

Recent was EV driving in Portugal and Public charging prices seem to be about 50p per KWh and looking at ZAP map for Europe, and of course I can use my Octopus Electroverse card on about 1M chargers throughout Europe the price of about 60 Eurocents seems to be a typical cost ie cheaper across mainland Europe than in the UK.

One can take out these monthly charger network subscriptions for just one month and then cancel and even with two charger in that month one has probably saved a few quid.

Consolidation is happen in the EV public charging area and we have just seen Mer sell all it charger to Be.EV making them tope ten now.....

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As of February 12, 2026, Be.EV has acquired Mer’s UK public electric vehicle charging network, adding over 1,600 charging bays across 450+ sites, primarily in the South of England. This acquisition strengthens Be.EV’s position as a top 10 UK network, with plans to rebrand the chargers and upgrade them.

Key Details of the Acquisition:

• Acquisition Scope: Be.EV acquired Mer's public charging assets, excluding Mer's fleet and workplace operations.

• Network Expansion: The deal expands Be.EV's network to over 2,500 bays and 680+ sites nationwide.

• Integration Plan: Over the coming months, blue Mer chargers will be rebranded to green Be.EV chargers.

• Driver Impact: Existing Mer chargers will operate as normal during the transition. Over time, drivers will gain access to Be.EV’s pricing, including a 39p/kWh subscription rate.

Edited 27 February27 Feb by lol-lol

Figures / statistics for those without Home Charging or Work Place charging will be 100% Public Chargers used. Real world BEV driving for those on one side of the Social Divide.

1 hour ago, Evolution13 said:

You can be be pretty much stuck paying high Rapid or Ultra Charging prices pretty much all over the country if you do not have 'Subscription rates' or are near TESLA Superchargers. 65 pence and above a kWh even if getting 4.5 miles a kWh is too damn much.

It is odd that TESLA prices, for non TESLA drivers, vary so much. Local Tesla chargers near here ie Frankley South services, are incredibly cheap, similar price for charging at home to those with single rate electricity pricing but you get up to 250 KWs instead of 7 kw, or 3 KW, at home.

Whole UK public charging system is so complex one need numerous Apps etc but one can find some amazingly cheap charging if one looks hard enough and are lucky that those places are not too far...

As well as supercheapness at Frankley South we have Gloucester North services at 33p per KWh half of the time and 55p the rest of the time which reflects the true price of lecky between off-peak and peak of course. https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/findus/location/supercharger/28318

Edited 27 February27 Feb by lol-lol

TESLA Supercharger lowest prices at several locations that suit me if near at the time is 28 pence a kWh. @ Perth right beside Perth & Kinross Council 50 kW chargers @ 55 pence a kWh at the same 'off peak' period.

32 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

Figures of the percentage of home, and destination, charger, vary on various sites, I have seen 85 % quoted by Nissan and also seen figures of over 90% for home and then there can also be some destination charging. Most of our offices / warehouses have destination chargers which are charged out at about 30p per KWh so not 8p per KWh like at home but not the 69, 79, 89 per KWh which is the full displayed price of Public charging in the UK. If I was public charging regularly in the UK I would look at one of the subscription services, Gridserve, Ionity etc. If my conscious allows me I could pay 30p per KWh at Frankley South services Tesla chargers, or 55p per KWh at busier times.

These figures of 85% and even 90% relate to what? It looks to me to be percentage of EV drivers/owners who have access to either home or destination chargers and, as such, are totally irrelevant to the discussion re public charging.

To get more people taking up the option of driving electric, you have to get into the real world and reside outside of that cosy bubble of having the ability of home charging and also destination charging at your place of work.

Edited 27 February27 Feb by Graham Butcher

3 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

To get more people taking up the option of driving electric, you have to get into the real world and reside outside of that cosy bubble of having the ability of home charging and also destination charging at your place of work.

I'm retired so workplace charging isn't an option.

Until we have the house and garage fully rewired we have been advised by more than one electrician that home charging is not viable due to the out-of-date switchgear and poor quality of electrical feed to the garage - so we've decided that our replacement vehicle cannot be an EV on running cost grounds, so we will be having either another ICE or even a HEV.

8 minutes ago, PetrolDave said:

I'm retired so workplace charging isn't an option.

Until we have the house and garage fully rewired we have been advised by more than one electrician that home charging is not viable due to the out-of-date switchgear and poor quality of electrical feed to the garage - so we've decided that our replacement vehicle cannot be an EV on running cost grounds, so we will be having either another ICE or even a HEV.

I expect that there will be many others in a similar position to you on that score as well. That would not be an insignificant cost either. That is another thing that politicians, as well as many more privileged people, would do well to understand. It will be many years before home charging becomes a reality for loads of people, even for those that would appear externally to have off-road capability to enable charging.

On 26/02/2026 at 12:43, lol-lol said:

In Wales there is still a lack of chargers just like Scotland and one should allow and extra buffer.

Really? Perhaps we don't have a hub on every corner like in the S/E. of England but I've never struggled to find a working charger when needed. Mid-Wales is a bit sparse I'll grant you, but most modern EVs have sufficient range to overcome this. On a recent trip to Cardiff from N. Wales I was able to charge at one of 34 chargers in the multi-storey I parked at in Cardiff for a reasonable 45p, making the round trip in horrible weather a non-stop event. On my route I passed at least 10 charging hubs I could have used if needed. Our preferred stop (for dinner) on the way home had two 160kW Instavolts.....

Edited 27 February27 Feb by Luckypants
Clarity

Of the 2 million BEV,s on UK roads there might be many Not so Modern or large battery among the first 0.5 Million first registered and then plenty under 50 kW battery over the years 2010-2026. This is the thing. There are all sorts out and about there Used or even nearly new and new.

@lol-lol Plenty chargers in Scotland. Sadly plenty of those not operational or operate at half power or less. £60 plus million of public money thrown the way of Charge Place Scotland, BP, SWARCO and others. Grants to private or public owners of chargers that were supposed to give 2 years free electricity / charging, and many made unavailable. Maintenance of many Council Owned Chargers / Hubs pathetic. Many Public Chargers out of order while 'Employee use EV cars have chargers, just not all the cars being used, so neither are the chargers. Corruption possibly, it will maybe all come out in the wash. PS. Seemingly another £85 million has been allocated to the roll out of the critical EV charging infrastructure in Scotland. Confirmed in Jan 2026 by Fiona Hyslop MSP Scotland's Transport Minister, who is driven about in a Petrol PHEV with faulty charging. Or was when i asked her driver why he was parked in a Charging Bay not Charging at the opening of a New EV Charging hub.

Edited 27 February27 Feb by Evolution13

2 hours ago, Luckypants said:

Really? Perhaps we don't have a hub on every corner like in the S/E. of England but I've never struggled to find a working charger when needed. Mid-Wales is a bit sparse I'll grant you, but most modern EVs have sufficient range to overcome this. On a recent trip to Cardiff from N. Wales I was able to charge at one of 34 chargers in the multi-storey I parked at in Cardiff for a reasonable 45p, making the round trip in horrible weather a non-stop event. On my route I passed at least 10 charging hubs I could have used if needed. Our preferred stop (for dinner) on the way home had two 160kW Instavolts.....

The route from the M5 from around Tewksebury all the way thru to the M4, ie via M50, A40, A449 is poorly off for chargers i think. No chargers at Monmouth Services and only the occasional odd town car park low output charger that i can see.

I usually use the M5 to South Wales so there is the excellent Gloucester sevices setup now with even more Chargers but would be nice to have more choice. Also the north bank of the Severn ie Gloucester to Chepstow not great though most of that is England of course. If you can call the Foresters (of Dean) anything at all.

May be an issue getting Grid power to places like Monmouth Services but if they offer charging then drivers will probably spend money in the services.

8 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

These figures of 85% and even 90% relate to what? It looks to me to be percentage of EV drivers/owners who have access to either home or destination chargers and, as such, are totally irrelevant to the discussion re public charging.

To get more people taking up the option of driving electric, you have to get into the real world and reside outside of that cosy bubble of having the ability of home charging and also destination charging at your place of work.

85, 90, 96 % of all car charging done at home i have seen these figures over the years.

With EV cars getting longer average range then public charging for people with the ability to charge at home.

I think the UK government want to improve air quality and continue to collect taxes in the ways there are plus some new ways like pay per mile from April 2028. As to getting people out od ICE cars that is going to happen via a combination of rising fuel tax and VED.

If drivers continue to drive ICE the revenue collected from ICE xar drivers will stay quire high due to the escalation of these Excise and VED taxes. Not sure they any specific plan to encourage drivers out of ICE except by the carrot and stick, carrot of up to £3750 price reduction subsidy on EVs and stick by higher taxes on ICE.

Ulrra cheap Night time electricity, whether for EVs or home batteries, will not stay cheap in the long term as more home batteries, more electricity cars, trucks, vans and motorcycles cgarge up overnight. So necessity being the mother of invention there will be more use of devices like Ecoflow Stream, home and work battery systems and well as solar panels which are so cheap and pay for themselves in less 3 years, soon be 2 and then 1.

Balcony solar, and Stream type devices, and its forms for just about everybody.

Edited 27 February27 Feb by lol-lol

The UK Government is not seeing the BIG PICTURE, they seem to be seeing there is those doing well with the BIK for business drivers and those being able to get electricity from Non Public chargers at under 10 pence a kWh or even 30 pence normal tariff, even with VED to pay and 3 pence a mile from 2028. Nothing in it for Private drivers that have to pay as much as running an ICE vehicle & then on top of that the 3 pence a mile penalty.

Edited 27 February27 Feb by Evolution13

1 hour ago, Evolution13 said:

The UK Government is not seeing the BIG PICTURE, they seem to be seeing there is those doing well with the BIK for business drivers and those being able to get electricity from Non Public chargers at under 10 pence a kWh or even 30 pence normal tariff, even with VED to pay and 3 pence a mile from 2028. Nothing in it for Private drivers that have to pay as much as running an ICE vehicle & then on top of that the 3 pence a mile penalty.

UK government must cut the public charging VAT and put online with VAT at home.

From what I have seen when my company owned Source London and its couple of thousand chargers tge capital cost of the equipment ud not insignificant.

So part of the public charging is recovery of that capital cost plus the very expensive Grid connection charge and the electricity as rent, maybe ground rent at tge site too.

Similar for those home charging. Capital cost of the wallboxes, about £1k a time abd they probably need replacing every few years. Total costvus more thanjust the electricity rate paid to the supplier.

16 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

UK government must cut the public charging VAT and put online with VAT at home.

From what I have seen when my company owned Source London and its couple of thousand chargers tge capital cost of the equipment ud not insignificant.

So part of the public charging is recovery of that capital cost plus the very expensive Grid connection charge and the electricity as rent, maybe ground rent at tge site too.

Similar for those home charging. Capital cost of the wallboxes, about £1k a time abd they probably need replacing every few years. Total costvus more thanjust the electricity rate paid to the supplier.

Much much more needs to be done in order to even make private buyers consider switching over.

12 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

Much much more needs to be done in order to even make private buyers consider switching over.

Carrot and stick. Carrots, like more EV grants or subsidized public charging, or even reducing the VAT percentage and lowering badly needed tax collection to pay down the massive UK public debt are issues.

There is also the stick of higher diesel and petrol prices. Some the UK government can control is the hydrocarbon excise duty but also supply issue affected by geo-political events like the Middle Eastern war that started last night. 20 % of oil comes thru the Straights of Hormuz and that might not be happening so much for the next weeks. Oil has already jumped a couple of dollars a barrel on Friday and has done another jump this morning. If I had an ICE car I might think about keeping my fuel tank half full or more. Issues like this might well help EV, and PHEV, sales.