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24 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

Fancy a Freelander, electric with 818 hp for £37,000, complete with a 46" screen on the dashboard? Then you need to watch this video, and it also helps to explain just why and how the Jaecoo looks like a knock-off Range Rover.

Dont think that £37k includes the shipping cost or 10% customs duty on the import value ie item cost plus shipping and 10% of that total.

Perhaps EU and UK need to whack Anti Dumping and or Countervailing duty on hybrids as well as EVs from China.

24 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

Fancy a Freelander, electric with 818 hp for £37,000, complete with a 46" screen on the dashboard? Then you need to watch this video, and it also helps to explain just why and how the Jaecoo looks like a knock-off Range Rover.

Dont think that £37k includes the shipping cost or 10% customs duty on the import value ie item cost plus shipping and 10% of that total.

Perhaps EU and UK need to whack Anti Dumping and or Countervailing duty on hybrids as well as EVs from China.

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@lol-lol I take it that you never watched the video then?
Nobody mentioned importing these Freelanders; the makers (Chery, 50% owned by Tata, who own JLR) are highly likely, as explained in the video, to be making these cars here in the UK, either at JLR or Nissan, where they already have agreements to make cars in those factories and our government is supposed to be in on the deal.

This might well be total BS; only time will tell us which it is, but the Freelander is designed in the UK by staff employed by JLR at their design centre, so again, make of that what you will. I have long said that many of the vloggers are ahead of the game, as they cannot be told what they can and can't report on, unlike the mainstream news channels.

As always, there are 2 sides to things, and one will be proven to be right at the end. It never hurts to be aware of the other side of things, does it?

With Jaecoo being 50% Tata owned, then they will be still getting income from every Jaecoo sold and not having to build them and there is no denying that their sales are growing in the UK in all traction varients.

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19 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

@lol-lol I take it that you never watched the video then?
Nobody mentioned importing these Freelanders; the makers (Chery, 50% owned by Tata, who own JLR) are highly likely, as explained in the video, to be making these cars here in the UK, either at JLR or Nissan, where they already have agreements to make cars in those factories and our government is supposed to be in on the deal.

This might well be total BS; only time will tell us which it is, but the Freelander is designed in the UK by staff employed by JLR at their design centre, so again, make of that what you will. I have long said that many of the vloggers are ahead of the game, as they cannot be told what they can and can't report on, unlike the mainstream news channels.

As always, there are 2 sides to things, and one will be proven to be right at the end. It never hurts to be aware of the other side of things, does it?

With Jaecoo being 50% Tata owned, then they will be still getting income from every Jaecoo sold and not having to build them and there is no denying that their sales are growing in the UK in all traction varients.

Rules of origin are quite involved and if Chery are just screwing a few big bits together the cars will not count as UK origin and not entitled to go to European mainland without paying duty.

I was auditing at our Hailwood warehouse as well as Midlands ones that supply Solihull and Wolverhampton and there is lots of non UK and non European major parts going into JLR cars but if this is a virtual whole Chinese kit being put together here in the UK, or in the Slovak JLR factories then the origin to have preferential status or even avoid penalties for being Chinese will be quite a calculation and planning.

Did watch most of the video, did have a speculative feel about it. Hope we get some UK jobs from such operations. More interested to see how the £4B Tata battery factory in Somerset gets along. UK needs to be more proactive in customs duty so China, India etc are forced to add at least half the value of these cars in the UK IMO.

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'call me Dave' Cameron. The PM back in 2016. This is the stuff you get with films like this. Find pictures any pictures.

I would have expected Tata to have already taken the rules of origin into account when they are alledged to have granted production space to Chery at their factory, and if such a thing ever takes place, it would surprise me that job creation would be minimal, as they are most likely to be built by JLRs own staff alongside their own cars. It will either way, all come out in the wash as my mum used to say.

I know what you mean about the video, it certainly was not the most polished production at all, loads of AI imagary and the fact that he kept calling Bedford as Bedfordshire, which is not a town but a county, but hey ho, it is what it is.

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