I bought matrix headlights for skoda superb 3 after I mounted them absolutely nothing works on, no signaling absolutely nothing can help me someone who has done this job before
I apologize for my English

Welcome

 

Have you got any VCDS autoscans? Ideally one before you changed anything and one from the car in it's current state...

I didn't do a vcds test, I'll do the next few days and I'll attach pictures, I'm surprised that absolutely nothing works, not even the parking or signaling position, theoretically something should work, at least something

16 minutes ago, sergiulupsac said:

theoretically something should work, at least something

 

 

That's very optimistic of you...

 

Did you check the wiring diagram to see if any of the pins have changed function?

 

There is a good chance the matrix lights use modules D6, D7 and 4B which may control the indicators etc. Depending which lights you previously had, you may need to change some other modules to get this working.

matrix headlights with their original modules and taken off from a car where they operated

I thought that maybe bcm should be replaced? because they might not recognize the headlights

Without seeing the scans, it's impossible to know as it'll depends how your car is configured...

There is a lot more to it than plug and play. You need to find parameter files for 4B to match your car and your nee requirements. Much easier said than done.

if you don’t have a front facing a5 camera you’ll have no chance as this is required.

as well as lots of adaptations and coding is required.

@sergiulupsac- in addition to the headlights, did u also buy a facelift bumper?

With facelift fog lights and cornering lights?

 

Wat year is ur pre-facelift?

Wat headlights did it come with originally?

 

I'm not surprised nothing works. 

It's not plug n play.

There has been significant changes to the headlights and taillights with facelift.  There will b a need to modify existing wiring looms and or modules.

8 hours ago, JR RS said:

@sergiulupsac- in addition to the headlights, did u also buy a facelift bumper?

With facelift fog lights and cornering lights?

 

Wat year is ur pre-facelift?

Wat headlights did it come with originally?

 

I'm not surprised nothing works. 

It's not plug n play.

There has been significant changes to the headlights and taillights with facelift.  There will b a need to modify existing wiring looms and or modules.

1. hello and thanks for the reply
   yes i bought everything  

2. the original ones are bixenon with adaptive I will go down to see more exactly the code on them
   car and skoda superb 2016 laurin klement

7 minutes ago, sergiulupsac said:

1. hello and thanks for the reply
   yes i bought everything  

2. the original ones are bixenon with adaptive I will go down to see more exactly the code on them
   car and skoda superb 2016 laurin klement

maybe I should change the bcm mode and gateway?

 

6 minutes ago, sergiulupsac said:

Ohh.....exciting!!

I'm pretty sure a 2016 car with xenons will use module 55 for the headlight range. Much like this examples:

- https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/8375/

- https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/28100/

 

As a starting point, the LED matrix lights will need 55 removing and module 4B adding instead. You will also need to make wiring changes to get D6 and D7 showing, as per this autoscan:

- https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/30074/

 

You may also need to change the BCM, CAN gateway or other modules...

 

I would suggest you use erwin to get some factory wiring diagrams if you're serious about this retrofit

19 minutes ago, langers2k said:

I'm pretty sure a 2016 car with xenons will use module 55 for the headlight range. Much like this examples:

- https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/8375/

- https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/28100/

 

As a starting point, the LED matrix lights will need 55 removing and module 4B adding instead. You will also need to make wiring changes to get D6 and D7 showing, as per this autoscan:

- https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/30074/

 

You may also need to change the BCM, CAN gateway or other modules...

 

I would suggest you use erwin to get some factory wiring diagrams if you're serious about this retrofit

Thank you very much I find useful everything you put here I'll do a scan and I'll attach pictures of work to completion I want to take the project to the end

I hope not to get very expensive to have problems with my wife

On 12/3/2021 at 5:30 PM, sergiulupsac said:

Thank you very much I find useful everything you put here I'll do a scan and I'll attach pictures of work to completion I want to take the project to the end

I hope not to get very expensive to have problems with my wife

@sergiulupsacHello! Have your matrix headlights been installed and debugged?

I believe the matrix lights use only 4 wires, power, ground, can high, can low.

 

whereas the pre fl lights use individual turn on wires + a network with 4B

Currently, there are some problems with the long coding of my 4B module.

@Waylon- wat is the byte/bit u r changing, and to wat?

 

When I retrofitted SLA headlights, I had to modify Byte 21 Bit 5.

Assuming ur playing with the facelift matrix LED headlights, u'll need to select the right option for u.

Mine is set to Hex 40 as I have SLA.

 

These r the available options with the 4B module:-

 

 

@JR RSthank you for your hint!
I will back up the 4B long code later and see what happens.
4B module failure prompts "AFS repeated installation"

17 hours ago, JR RS said:

@Waylon- wat is the byte/bit u r changing, and to wat?

 

When I retrofitted SLA headlights, I had to modify Byte 21 Bit 5.

Assuming ur playing with the facelift matrix LED headlights, u'll need to select the right option for u.

Mine is set to Hex 40 as I have SLA.

 

These r the available options with the 4B module:-

 

 

@JR RS 

Please help me take a look!
This is the 4B module information exported through OBDeleven. I don’t know where the problem occurs?

OBDeleven_Log_4B Multifunction Module.txt OBDeleven_Log_4B_338G.txt

@Waylon - wat is the story with ur 4B module?

Is it the original that came with ur car, or did u replace that?

 

If it is the original 4B module, has it been parameterized with a file that has the datasets for dynamic light assist?

If so, was the file sourced from another facelift Superb with factory fitted Matrix LED headlights?

3 hours ago, JR RS said:

@Waylon - wat is the story with ur 4B module?

Is it the original that came with ur car, or did u replace that?

 

If it is the original 4B module, has it been parameterized with a file that has the datasets for dynamic light assist?

If so, was the file sourced from another facelift Superb with factory fitted Matrix LED headlights?

@JRRS 

Yes, because of parameterization problems after installing and debugging the matrix headlights, it was replaced with the 4B module model of MY2022 Superb 3Q0907338G.
Before replacing the matrix headlights, the original 4B module model of my MY2020 Superb was 3Q0907338C.

 

In recent months, I have searched on Google or forums about the parameters, coding, and matching topics of Superb matrix headlights.

But it still failed to achieve the factory-like effects, such as the eyelashes of the matrix headlights acting as daytime running lights, and the light show animation similar to the Audi matrix headlights.

Hi guys, I converted the front of my Superb MK3 PreFacelift Sportline MY2017 to facelift MY2020 with LED matrix headlights and wanted to share my experiences.

I have written a short guide for people who want to retrofit LED matrix headlights on a Prefacelift Skoda Superb.

1. Remove headlights and bumper

2. Headlights wiring

the new headlights require a direct power supply from the fuse box (Pin 10 in the connector on the headlight), the old connector for the BiXenon headlights still fits and only needs to be adapted

the existing pin 10 has to be removed, I put it in the free slot 8 so that the pin doesn't hang around uselessly

Lay a new 2.5mm² cable from the fuse box to the headlights and insert it into pin 10 (a new pin is required)

the left side is done quickly, here you only need about 50cm from the fuse box to the connector on the headlight

right side is a bit more complex, I laid the cable behind the engine bay in the existing cable harness

both are protected with 25A each

I could not find the original pins from the fuse box, so I used universal fuse holders and connected them directly to the battery

3. Fog lights wiring

the connectors (3D0973703) for the new LED fog lights is different and the old one must be replaced

Pin 13 from the headlights becomes pin 3 on the fog lights, the old cables white/yellow becomes pin 1 left fog light, grey/green pin 1 right fog light and brown pin 2 left and right (ground)

4. install new headlights and bumper (Partlist for Sportline is attached -> all Trims black)

5. I have replaced 4B Multifunction Module from 3Q0907338 to 3Q0907338C, because I only have the data set for C Version

the 4B can be found under the steering wheel. To access it, the knee airbag and the air duct must be removed (note: it is not necessary to unplug the knee airbag connector)

6. Once everything is assembled, you can start coding

First activate D6 and D7 in 19 gateway, these are the control units of the new headlights

I did this with VCDS -> connect to 19 -> select "installation list" -> check D6 and D7 -> save coding

7. Flash data set "superb_fcm_3q0907338c.zdc" with VCP to control unit 4B Multifunction Module (3Q0907338C) -> it is available in VCP Filemanager

8. Coding:

4B Multifunc. Module(3Q0907338C) Coding: 00000007090008F206003D13010000000000000000000000000000000000

- Byte 3 -> Hex 07 -> Bit0-1= 03 Verbau AFS,Light Control Plus

Bit 2= 1 -> LED_Headlight,freigeschaltet

- Byte 6 -> Hex 06 -> it is for headlight range adjustment

- Byte 7 -> Hex F2 -> Bit 5= 1

Bit 7= 1

- Byte 9 -> Hex 00

- Byte 10 -> Hex 3D -> Bit 0= 1

Bit 1= 0

Bit 2= 1

Bit 3= 1

Bit 4= 1

Bit 5= 1

Bit 6= 0 mdf_activation,freigeschaltet

Bit 7= 0 glw_activation,freigeschaltet

- Byte 11 -> Hex 13 -> Bit 0= 1 Prädiktive Streckendaten,freigeschaltet

Bit 1= 1 Kreuzungslicht mit Streckendaten,freigeschaltet

Bit 4= 1 Matrix-head-lamp,freigeschaltet

- Byte 12 -> Hex 01 -> Bit 0-2= 01 statisches Kurvenlicht,ECE R48

4B Adaptations

IDE01996-SFT00041-Verbauliste Sollverbau-Lichtsteuerung links -> nein

IDE01996-SFT00057-Verbauliste Sollverbau-Lichtsteuerung rechts -> nein

IDE01996-SFT00214-Verbauliste Sollverbau-Lichtsteuerung links 2 -> ja

IDE01996-SFT00215-Verbauliste Sollverbau-Lichtsteuerung rechts 2 -> ja

IDE08418-Matrixscheinwerfer: Gesamtdimmung -> 100.8 %

IDE13612-Matrixscheinwerfer: Lenkwinkel -> 9600.00 °

A5 Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (3QD980654) Coding: 020408020000040100222355C150A90098000E300080

- Byte 19 -> Hex 10 -> Bit 0-3= 00 FLA_Additional_High_Beam,no_Additional_High_Beam

Bit 4-7= 30 FLA-Headinglight_type,LED_witch_variable_light_distribution

- Byte 21 -> Hex 80 -> Bit 5-7= 80 AFS_coding_Light_Assist,Matrixbeam

09 Cent. Elect. (5Q0 937 084 CQ)

Adaptations

ENG141650-MAS13782-Fernlicht_assistent-Assistenzfahrlicht: Empfindlichkeit per BAP einstellbar -> vorhanden

ENG141650-ENG141973-Fernlicht_assistent-Erweiterte_Fernlichtsteuerung -> AFS: FLA: Fernlicht (GLW:MDF)

ENG141650-ENG116639-Fernlicht_assistent-Fernlichtassistent Reset -> aktiv

ENG141650-ENG116637-Fernlicht_assistent-Menuesteuerung Fernlichtassistent -> vorhanden

ENG141650-ENG116641-Fernlicht_assistent-Menuesteuerung Fernlichtassistent Werkseinstellung -> vorhanden

ENG116936-ENG115873-Leuchte 0 BLK VL B36-Lasttyp 0 -> not activ

ENG116937-ENG115892-Leuchte1BLK VRB20-Lasttyp 1 -> not activ

ENG116938-ENG115910-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lasttyp 2 -> not activ

ENG116939-ENG115929-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lasttyp 3 -> not activ

ENG116940-ENG115948-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lasttyp 4 -> not activ

ENG116941-ENG115967-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lasttyp 5 -> not activ

ENG116942-ENG115996-Leuchte6ABL LC5-Dimming Direction CD 6 -> maximize

ENG116942-ENG116000-Leuchte6ABL LC5-Dimming Direction EF 6 -> maximize

ENG116942-ENG116004-Leuchte6ABL LC5-Dimming Direction GH 6 -> maximize

ENG116942-ENG115991-Leuchte6ABL LC5-Dimmwert AB 6 -> 127

ENG116942-ENG115995-Leuchte6ABL LC5-Dimmwert CD 6 -> 127

ENG116942-ENG115999-Leuchte6ABL LC5-Dimmwert EF 6 -> 0

ENG116942-ENG116003-Leuchte6ABL LC5-Dimmwert GH 6 -> 0

ENG116942-ENG115988-Leuchte6ABL LC5-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 6 -> 00

ENG116942-ENG116556-Leuchte6ABL LC5-Lampendefektbitposition 6 -> 00

ENG116942-ENG115986-Leuchte6ABL LC5-Lasttyp 6 -> 43 - allgemeine LED

ENG116942-ENG115992-Leuchte6ABL LC5-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 6 -> Always

ENG116942-ENG115989-Leuchte6ABL LC5-Lichtfunktion A 6 -> Versorgungsbedarf der LCM Module

ENG116942-ENG115990-Leuchte6ABL LC5-Lichtfunktion B 6 -> not activ

ENG116942-ENG115993-Leuchte6ABL LC5-Lichtfunktion C 6 -> Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht: Positionslicht: Begrenzungslicht)

ENG116942-ENG115994-Leuchte6ABL LC5-Lichtfunktion D 6 -> Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re)

ENG116943-ENG116015-Leuchte7ABL RB1-Dimming Direction CD 7 -> maximize

ENG116943-ENG116019-Leuchte7ABL RB1-Dimming Direction EF 7 -> maximize

ENG116943-ENG116023-Leuchte7ABL RB1-Dimming Direction GH 7 -> maximize

ENG116943-ENG116010-Leuchte7ABL RB1-Dimmwert AB 7 -> 127

ENG116943-ENG116014-Leuchte7ABL RB1-Dimmwert CD 7 -> 127

ENG116943-ENG116018-Leuchte7ABL RB1-Dimmwert EF 7 -> 0

ENG116943-ENG116022-Leuchte7ABL RB1-Dimmwert GH 7 -> 0

ENG116943-ENG116007-Leuchte7ABL RB1-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 7 -> 00

ENG116943-ENG116557-Leuchte7ABL RB1-Lampendefektbitposition 7 -> 00

ENG116943-ENG116005-Leuchte7ABL RB1-Lasttyp 7 -> 43 - allgemeine LED

ENG116943-ENG116011-Leuchte7ABL RB1-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 7 -> Always

ENG116943-ENG116008-Leuchte7ABL RB1-Lichtfunktion A 7 -> Versorgungsbedarf der LCM Module

ENG116943-ENG116009-Leuchte7ABL RB1-Lichtfunktion B 7 -> not activ

ENG116943-ENG116012-Leuchte7ABL RB1-Lichtfunktion C 7 -> Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht: Positionslicht: Begrenzungslicht)

ENG116943-ENG116013-Leuchte7ABL RB1-Lichtfunktion D 7 -> Parklicht rechts

ENG116948-ENG116110-Leuchte12NL LB45-Dimming Direction CD 12 -> maximize

ENG116948-ENG116114-Leuchte12NL LB45-Dimming Direction EF 12 -> maximize

ENG116948-ENG116118-Leuchte12NL LB45-Dimming Direction GH 12 -> maximize

ENG116948-ENG116105-Leuchte12NL LB45-Dimmwert AB 12 -> 100

ENG116948-ENG116109-Leuchte12NL LB45-Dimmwert CD 12 -> 0

ENG116948-ENG116113-Leuchte12NL LB45-Dimmwert EF 12 -> 0

ENG116948-ENG116117-Leuchte12NL LB45-Dimmwert GH 12 -> 0

ENG116948-ENG116102-Leuchte12NL LB45-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 12 -> 00

ENG116948-ENG116562-Leuchte12NL LB45-Lampendefektbitposition 12 -> 00

ENG116948-ENG116100-Leuchte12NL LB45-Lasttyp 12 -> 4 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Signal

ENG116948-ENG116106-Leuchte12NL LB45-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 12 -> Always

ENG116948-ENG116103-Leuchte12NL LB45-Lichtfunktion A 12 -> Nebellicht links

ENG116948-ENG116104-Leuchte12NL LB45-Lichtfunktion B 12 -> Abbiegelicht links

ENG116949-ENG116129-Leuchte13NL RB5-Dimming Direction CD 13 -> maximize

ENG116949-ENG116133-Leuchte13NL RB5-Dimming Direction EF 13 -> maximize

ENG116949-ENG116137-Leuchte13NL RB5-Dimming Direction GH 13 -> maximize

ENG116949-ENG116124-Leuchte13NL RB5-Dimmwert AB 13 -> 100

ENG116949-ENG116128-Leuchte13NL RB5-Dimmwert CD 13 -> 0

ENG116949-ENG116132-Leuchte13NL RB5-Dimmwert EF 13 -> 0

ENG116949-ENG116136-Leuchte13NL RB5-Dimmwert GH 13 -> 0

ENG116949-ENG116121-Leuchte13NL RB5-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 13 -> 00

ENG116949-ENG116563-Leuchte13NL RB5-Lampendefektbitposition 13 -> 00

ENG116949-ENG116119-Leuchte13NL RB5-Lasttyp 13 -> 4 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Signal

ENG116949-ENG116125-Leuchte13NL RB5-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 13 -> Always

ENG116949-ENG116122-Leuchte13NL RB5-Lichtfunktion A 13 -> Nebellicht rechts

ENG116949-ENG116123-Leuchte13NL RB5-Lichtfunktion B 13 -> Abbiegelicht rechts

ENG116952-ENG116186-Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Dimming Direction CD 16 -> maximize

ENG116952-ENG116190-Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Dimming Direction EF 16 -> maximize

ENG116952-ENG116194-Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Dimming Direction GH 16 -> maximize

ENG116952-ENG116181-Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Dimmwert AB 16 -> 127

ENG116952-ENG116185-Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Dimmwert CD 16 -> 0

ENG116952-ENG116189-Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Dimmwert EF 16 -> 0

ENG116952-ENG116193-Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Dimmwert GH 16 -> 0

ENG116952-ENG116178-Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 16 -> 00

ENG116952-ENG116567-Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Lampendefektbitposition 16 -> 00

ENG116952-ENG116176-Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Lasttyp 16 -> 1 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Versorgung

ENG116952-ENG116182-Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 16 -> Always

ENG116952-ENG116179-Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Lichtfunktion A 16 -> Nebellicht links

ENG116952-ENG116180-Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Lichtfunktion B 16 -> Abbiegelicht links

ENG116953-ENG116205-Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Dimming Direction CD 17 -> maximize

ENG116953-ENG116209-Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Dimming Direction EF 17 -> maximize

ENG116953-ENG116213-Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Dimming Direction GH 17 -> maximize

ENG116953-ENG116200-Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Dimmwert AB 17 -> 127

ENG116953-ENG116204-Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Dimmwert CD 17 -> 0

ENG116953-ENG116208-Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Dimmwert EF 17 -> 0

ENG116953-ENG116212-Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Dimmwert GH 17 -> 0

ENG116953-ENG116197-Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 17 -> 00

ENG116953-ENG116568-Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Lampendefektbitposition 17 -> 00

ENG116953-ENG116195-Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Lasttyp 17 -> 1 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Versorgung

ENG116953-ENG116201-Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 17 -> Always

ENG116953-ENG116198-Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Lichtfunktion A 17 -> Nebellicht rechts

ENG116953-ENG116569-Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Lichtfunktion B 17 -> Abbiegelicht rechts

9. After coding, the basic setting of the headlights and matrix high beam must be made

i used VCP for this->

- switch on low beam

- connect to 4B

- go to basic settings

- go to "basic headlamp setting" and press start, adjust the headlamps to the correct height, then press stop

- now go to "Acknowledge basic setting" press start, wait a moment then press stop

- switch to Position "0" or "parking light" (low beam must be off)

- go to "matrix light, calibration" -> set "calibrate" for left and right

- now a reference light can be seen

- it must be measured with headlight adjusting unit VAS621001 or Maha MLT3000 Matrix high beam calibration mode -> note the angles

- Stop calibration and go to "Offset calculation matrix light" -> set "cablibrate offset" for both headlights

- Keep vertical at 0, enter angles for horizontal -> press start, wait a moment and press stop

- delete fault codes

- finished

For the Headlight washer cylinder you need a 10mm connector (1J0955665E), a short piece of 10mm hose and a pipe connector 10mm/6mm to connect it to the old washerhose.

Everything works very well and the matrix light is really great, i love it

Nice write-up and explanation there @marv3000 👍

I took the easy path, back in 2019, and did the SLA retrofit. The SLA high beam masking and bending trickery does an excellent job.