Hey, don't knock Crossrail 2, it's set to stop at my nearby station, I'm waiting for that house price increase after been built 😜 

 

21 minutes ago, cheezemonkhai said:

Except when there is too much wind it will affect grid stability, so they are forced to brake the turbines or disconnect from the grid.

In those situations making hydrogen is ok, but charging from elsewhere is not.

So the problem is too much input from a single place (the wind turbines) rather than too much renewable generation not matched to demand across the whole grid. 

In those cases, green hydrogen generation would make sense, but then you'll loose out on efficiency even more by transporting it. 

 

The electricity market really need to be localised. Those who live next to wind turbines get to pay a lot less or even paid to use electricity. Currently electricity system with dumb meters and national price cap that only differs by a few pence across the country does not work. 

 

Then we will see communities put up less resistance to renewables appearing near them. 

 

 

Customers in parts of Scotland have the highest tariffs and this has been how it has always been. 

Nearest to the Hydro, Nuclear and Coal and Gas power stations and now the renewables but then hydro was always a renewable. 

http://dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/scots-households-paying-higher-energy-27151668

'This average stuff is the usual nonsense.'

 

http://dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/money/scottish-energy-bill-payments-ranked-26583664

 

 

Edited 4 August, 20223 yr by roottoot

  

25 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

Hey, don't knock Crossrail 2, it's set to stop at my nearby station, I'm waiting for that house price increase after been built 😜 

😛

 

25 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

So the problem is too much input from a single place (the wind turbines) rather than too much renewable generation not matched to demand across the whole grid. 

In those cases, green hydrogen generation would make sense, but then you'll loose out on efficiency even more by transporting it. 

I did say local cars, but to be honest even if it was piped out to local homes/businesses as part of the gas mix (up to 20% works fine in current gas boilers) then it is good.  I really do want to see some data for what 10000 rotations at given speed at a wind turbine generates in terms of hydrogen produced right there vs electricity available once it's passed through the grid. I'm just not so sure it's as big a difference as people say. More so when you consider the weight pulled around by cars that are not using it (100kWh batteries to get 400 miles for example).

 

25 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

The electricity market really need to be localised. Those who live next to wind turbines get to pay a lot less or even paid to use electricity. Currently electricity system with dumb meters and national price cap that only differs by a few pence across the country does not work. 

 

Then we will see communities put up less resistance to renewables appearing near them. 

 

 

I'm all for that

 

10 minutes ago, roottoot said:

Customers in parts of Scotland have the highest tariffs and this has been how it has always been. 

Nearest to the Hydro, Nuclear and Coal and Gas power stations and now the renewables but then hydro was always a renewable. 

http://dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/scots-households-paying-higher-energy-27151668

'This average stuff is the usual nonsense.'

 

 

 

Well the pre-mememeiwanttobePM tory party competition, it had been floated that those near to energy generation should benifit from lower rates.

The SW has wind, nuclear (well did and will again soon-ish) and yet also has some of the highest prices.

 

I notice London has few power stations, wind turbines etc and there is far more demand than can be easily supplied.

I suggest to double the prices of electric and gas in London and benefit those in the regions.

Edited 4 August, 20223 yr by cheezemonkhai

Oh second thought, this averaging price cap system works well 😛

Just now, wyx087 said:

Oh second thought, this averaging price cap system works well 😛

 What you complaining about, the house price increase from crossrail will more than offset your increased fuel bills 😛 

Manipulation as usual. 

Price Cap reviews to be quarterly and the next one before the new PM is announced.  End of August. 

New PM 5th September then maybe within 24 hours the new Chancellor, Energy Minister etc etc . 

http://news.sky.com/story/very-challenging-winter-ahead-ofgem-says-as-it-confirms-quarterly-update-of-energy-price-cap-12665201

 

 

 

Edited 4 August, 20223 yr by roottoot

15 minutes ago, roottoot said:

Manipulation as usual. 

Price Cap reviews to be quarterly and the next one before the new PM is announced.  End of August. 

New PM 5th September then maybe within 24 hours the new Chancellor, Energy Minister etc etc . 

http://news.sky.com/story/very-challenging-winter-ahead-ofgem-says-as-it-confirms-quarterly-update-of-energy-price-cap-12665201

 

I don't think anyone believed them when they initially said every 3 months to benifit consumers.

 

A cap is a cap and lower prices means somebody would have broken ranks to get customers.

Quarterly cap reviews means making sure those buying energy can charge more.

 

Should have told them to do one and renationalised generation and the grid.

Edited 4 August, 20223 yr by cheezemonkhai

I have realised we've gone waaaay OT...

If someone wants to create a suitable thread for the discussion they want to have I can move the OT stuff over there.

Maybe this thread could just take a holiday like the Government & PM has until something new comes up like a press release from Renault UK. 

On 03/08/2022 at 09:22, wyx087 said:

The problem is making people think 22kW is a replacement for real rapid charging and further complicating en-route charging stations. This need to be as straightforward as possible: slower charging at destination, as fast as possible CCS (in Europe) for en-route charging. There has to be a difference between destination and rapid charging. CCS and Chademo enforces that by being physically different plugs. 

 

With the ZE40 having CCS, I thought it would be the end of seeing Type 2's on rapid chargers. I *think* LOL-LOL have the CCS version of the Zoe? 

 

Indeed.  All Riviera and GT line of the ZE50 come with CCS but it was an option on the lower spec IONIC model and some came with and some without but the PCP was the same for both with and without so UK buyers buying on PCP clearly went for CCS ones and hence non CCS UK are quite rare but fine if one is a commuter and does not want to use the Zoe for long trips or is prepared to drive at 50 mph, or less, and get up to 300 miles range and then wait 2,3,4,5 hours to charge.  

 

There are some 16 and 22 kw chargers tucked away in some out of the way places and not on ZAP Map but just rock up and change for free whilst having a visit to the restaurant and us the 16 kw chargers, this might change I suppose as lecky get stupidly pricey.   Leaf and Ground in Dursley Gloucestershire has been one such place.

 

On 27/04/2025 at 07:38, Ootohere said:

Saw this. Battery Leasing, with recovery included had its plus points but now appears bit of a pain. All the 22, 40 and 50 kwh packs have the same form but must have different wiring, software and a host of other electrical components so if no more 22 or 40 kwh packs all a bit pointless.

That said with the 40 kwh pack it is reported there were many dormant cells that could be brought on line to bring the overall capacity back over the warranty replacement threshold.

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4 hours ago, Ootohere said:

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Seemed a good choice to do 4 year PCP.

No worries about battery, brake fluid etc just hand it back after 3 £99 services. Two tyres which we about £70, front of course which get a bit chewed with the torque and weight.

Well less than £300 a month, partly due to subsidies and cheap finance available.

Renault 5 40 kwh still the likely replacement bur will evaluate.

Maybe lwr them sweat and ve without second car for a few weeks and see what quarter four finance deals and available.

With interest rates falling EU and UK plus Renault needing to hit their 2025 EV target of 28% there should be some great deals around.

I dont see that many with 3/4 year old plus cars they own paying out to replace a battery because someone points out that is the Service Regime, guidelines, advice, recommendation from Renault.

Just like Skoda Owners never replaced Alarm Sirens / Battery units @ 5 years as was shown in the Service Manual when there was such a thing.

That was Alarm Replace @ 12 years with Volvos from when Ford owned the company.

Actually they lasted for 12 years in many cases and then you knew when replacement made sense.