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Full matrix headlights - working as designed or not?

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My father became blind in one eye before they would consider him a priority for surgery on the other eye, that was years down the line so he gave up his driving licence, he died at 86 still with the cataract in his one working eye.

 

I too have inherited the glaucoma, I too only have vision in one eye due to botched surgery and 5 incidences of detached retina, I have to use 2 different eyedrops twice a day, it is entirely possible that I am more sensitive to bright lights or the contrast of them than other people, it certainly was not like this when I was young.

 

I recognise that people sometimes forget to dip their headlights and that when loaded they may be too high, a momentary flash from me is usually all it takes for them to display common courtesy and consideration, or at least it was until the advent of people abdicating their responsbilities as drivers, letting the vehicle systems do what they want, as long as they have better forward vision then its the problem of the oncoming driver being too sensitive or who should have there eyes operated on or stop driving, I suspect Felix is under 40, probably under 30.

 

I have an even worse problem with fellow runners and head torches, when I was a bacpacker there was a thing called fireside or camp etiquette, if there was no lighting in camp you would use your headtorch but on minimum setting (they were not bright anyway back then) and never look someone in the face, if you spoke with someone you would bot turn out your lamps.

 

In my old running club the local was in the brightly lit town square & our running routes were always on roads with street lamps, some idiots would come out of the locale into the brightly lit town square with high powered COB headtorches on maximum setting and look you straight in the eye, sme deal when out running, the worst were the ones worn around the chest, often you would see them lighting up the trees above but not the road in front.

 

I would constantly have to shield my eyes from the burning lights, most people got the message but some people were either too dim or too selfish, on two occasions I had to be driven home by someone else and on one occasion hospitalised for a burned retina, the light and the flare that it left on my vision was 100 times worse than the high powered slit lamp that the opthalmogists use and exposure to those are strictly controlled, go beyond a certain time and you cannot drive home, the opthalmogist said he would be struck off if he had burned someone retina like mine had been.

 

I can tell you that when you have lost one eye you take great care with the remaining one, being hospitalised through someone elses ignorance or selfishness and not knowing if you will regain your already compromised vision is not a happy experience.

 

It's 2 days now since my 20 hour journey of which less than 8 hours was in darkness and my eyes still havn't recovered and daytime driving is a challenge, if they dont improve by Monday I will have to go to les urgences ophtalmologique because I am due to do the return journey within a few days.

 

3 years ago I would get dazzled very infrequently and a quick flash of the headlights sufficed, now it is far far worse and I try to avoid night driving wherever I can, it is LED and Matrix headlights that have made the difference.

From the video:

 

"when you approach a reflective road sign the matrix lights dim around it to prevent you from being dazzled"

 

Proof that they dazzle but as long as its not the driver being dazzled then I'm alright Jack!

 

Also they show the headlight adapting and say that "the pedestrian and animal is still perfectly illuminated", dazzled would be the operative word, I always dip my headlights when there are pedestrians, cyclists etc, it's common courtesy.

 

If you blind someone who ay already be squeezed to the side of the road or walking on the verge they may trip over and fall into your path, but hey, thats their fault isn't it!

On 03/09/2022 at 14:00, KenONeill said:

@Felix2021 Blocked for @$$hatted arrogance.

Seems like a teenager that got onto here pretending to have ordered/bought a car.

 

Anyways, I did two more drives including highway, commute roads and city. Both times the matrix lights worked flawlessly - it was funny to watch the beams constantly adjust and not even a single car flashed me. I start to think that the first time I might have had some dirt on the windshield that reduced the camera`s sensitivity (wild guess but after washing the car its fine).

Regarding the setting of the matrix "reaction speed". You were right, that sensor sensitivity is only for dark/light and when to turn on the headlights. But as I clicking through the individual drive mode setting, there is one item called "Light Assistant" and there is Sport/Normal/something...  I dont know if its adjusting the "reaction speed" or not,  I did not find it anywhere else in the settings of car...

 

Anyways my working also good and its nicely see, that the light is usually turn of even before the car "hit" the lit area... 

On 04/09/2022 at 00:11, J.R. said:

My father became blind in one eye before they would consider him a priority for surgery on the other eye, that was years down the line so he gave up his driving licence, he died at 86 still with the cataract in his one working eye.

 

I too have inherited the glaucoma, I too only have vision in one eye due to botched surgery and 5 incidences of detached retina, I have to use 2 different eyedrops twice a day, it is entirely possible that I am more sensitive to bright lights or the contrast of them than other people, it certainly was not like this when I was young.

 

I recognise that people sometimes forget to dip their headlights and that when loaded they may be too high, a momentary flash from me is usually all it takes for them to display common courtesy and consideration, or at least it was until the advent of people abdicating their responsbilities as drivers, letting the vehicle systems do what they want, as long as they have better forward vision then its the problem of the oncoming driver being too sensitive or who should have there eyes operated on or stop driving, I suspect Felix is under 40, probably under 30.

 

I have an even worse problem with fellow runners and head torches, when I was a bacpacker there was a thing called fireside or camp etiquette, if there was no lighting in camp you would use your headtorch but on minimum setting (they were not bright anyway back then) and never look someone in the face, if you spoke with someone you would bot turn out your lamps.

 

In my old running club the local was in the brightly lit town square & our running routes were always on roads with street lamps, some idiots would come out of the locale into the brightly lit town square with high powered COB headtorches on maximum setting and look you straight in the eye, sme deal when out running, the worst were the ones worn around the chest, often you would see them lighting up the trees above but not the road in front.

 

I would constantly have to shield my eyes from the burning lights, most people got the message but some people were either too dim or too selfish, on two occasions I had to be driven home by someone else and on one occasion hospitalised for a burned retina, the light and the flare that it left on my vision was 100 times worse than the high powered slit lamp that the opthalmogists use and exposure to those are strictly controlled, go beyond a certain time and you cannot drive home, the opthalmogist said he would be struck off if he had burned someone retina like mine had been.

 

I can tell you that when you have lost one eye you take great care with the remaining one, being hospitalised through someone elses ignorance or selfishness and not knowing if you will regain your already compromised vision is not a happy experience.

 

It's 2 days now since my 20 hour journey of which less than 8 hours was in darkness and my eyes still havn't recovered and daytime driving is a challenge, if they dont improve by Monday I will have to go to les urgences ophtalmologique because I am due to do the return journey within a few days.

 

3 years ago I would get dazzled very infrequently and a quick flash of the headlights sufficed, now it is far far worse and I try to avoid night driving wherever I can, it is LED and Matrix headlights that have made the difference.

Can i ask why you drive at night if it’s horrible for you? 

On 06/09/2022 at 05:16, MP1983 said:

it was funny to watch the beams constantly adjust and not even a single car flashed me

You're lucky. I got flashed yesterday and I was on low beam. The other driver flashed a lot, he must have got really frustrated at my lack of reaction but I could do nothing about it. Obviously the LED lights, even when dimmed, are perceived as too bright by quite a few drivers.

 

I remember "ploughing " the M4 at night and my passengers telling me "blue lights" these were the first high intensity

lights and even dipped they appeared to dazzle, I just averted my gaze a litte and that was all it needed.

Technology is wonderful but as has already been said humans can often be better, especially when they are well

informed as to what Matrix capabilities are and what its shortcomings are so they can make allowances.

My favourite mod was in the Citroens and on my Yeti, the cornering lights!

8 hours ago, JirikH said:

Regarding the setting of the matrix "reaction speed". You were right, that sensor sensitivity is only for dark/light and when to turn on the headlights. But as I clicking through the individual drive mode setting, there is one item called "Light Assistant" and there is Sport/Normal/something...  I dont know if its adjusting the "reaction speed" or not,  I did not find it anywhere else in the settings of car...

I've tried to test this "normal" and "sport" options. My thoughts are that Sport makes the lights react quicker when going ON, and with Normal they are more softer.

 

So for example when a car is passing by, in Sport the lights go on much quicker, perhaps even in an annoying way. They might even look like flickering when they are going on/off quickly when a car is perhaps behind a tree or something.

 

With Normal, the lights are more unnoticeable, since they light up more softly.

 

 

@timster thanks for checking this. Finally I know what do this setting :) 

2 hours ago, JirikH said:

@timster thanks for checking this. Finally I know what do this setting :) 

No prob. Glad to be as curious as you :)

 

Personally i did have it on Sport for a long time. Later i noticed that it can even be annoying since it tries to push high beam in every small slot it can. That causes some flicker/blinking and does not provide so much advantage over Normal.


Do your own testing. Glad to hear other opinions :)

On 07/09/2022 at 13:36, DaveFromSydney said:

You're lucky. I got flashed yesterday and I was on low beam. The other driver flashed a lot, he must have got really frustrated at my lack of reaction but I could do nothing about it. Obviously the LED lights, even when dimmed, are perceived as too bright by quite a few drivers.

 

Was he flashing at you? Maybe another car behind on long beam? Funny, but I don`t find led to be blinding, indeed light seems a bit more scattered somehow (approaching opposite vehicle).

 

I think you can lower them manually but not sure how - not knowing the car that much yet.

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