Good evening

My Superb continues to give me grief! 

It has just gone over 180,000 miles so maybe it has reason.

I digress.

On my way home from the UK my clutch went as I arrived at the ferry port. My car was put onboard and off again on arrival in France. 

My breakdown towed me to their garage. They wouldn't repair it. Long story short it was taken to Skoda.

Two parts of the clutch were replaced - the récepteur and immiteur which translate as clutch slave and clutch release.

Went to pick up car which was over 400kms from where I live.

Drove it home with no problems.

Today I drove about 10kms, parked up and when I went to drive away the engine management light had come on.

I drove home, light stayed on, car drove ok.

I have an OBD eleven so plugged that in and scanned for errors - none showed up. The light is still on.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Unlikely to be related to the clutch job unless they disturbed something during the work.

 

My advice would be to have a VCDS scan done but owners in France are thin on the ground.

 

I have VCDS and will be back in the SW (Bergerac area) by the end of the week if that is any help to you.

 

That said I dont think that OBD11 would miss anything that VCDS would find, are you able to interrogate the individual control modules with OBD11?

16 minutes ago, Tresco said:

Two parts of the clutch were replaced - the récepteur and immiteur which translate as clutch slave and clutch release.

Allowing for any typos the récepteur is the slave cylinder which if the concentric type will include the release bearing and émetteur (not the term I would use in French) can only mean the master cylinder.

18 minutes ago, J.R. said:

Unlikely to be related to the clutch job unless they disturbed something during the work.

 

My advice would be to have a VCDS scan done but owners in France are thin on the ground.

 

I have VCDS and will be back in the SW (Bergerac area) by the end of the week if that is any help to you.

 

That said I dont think that OBD11 would miss anything that VCDS would find, are you able to interrogate the individual control modules with OBD11?

Not sure about interrogating individual control modules. I will have to get OH to have a look, although I'm not sure he will have any more idea than me! He's not technically minded. 

Unfortunately Bergerac is a bit of a trek as we're in North Deux-Sèvres.

19 minutes ago, J.R. said:

Allowing for any typos the récepteur is the slave cylinder which if the concentric type will include the release bearing and émetteur (not the term I would use in French) can only mean the master cylinder.

Sorry yes it says émetteur which was slightly more expensive than the récepteur. 

I was told by the garage that they replaced both due to the mileage being so high.

Hoping I can post a link here for the features of the OBD11.

https://obdeleven.com/en/apps-and-features

I have the basic.

24 minutes ago, Tresco said:

I was told by the garage that they replaced both due to the mileage being so high

So, yet again, we catch a garage using the parts cannon at the owner's expense.

2 hours ago, KenONeill said:

So, yet again, we catch a garage using the parts cannon at the owner's expense.

 

Presuming it's master and slave being changed I'd say in this case it's sensible at this high mileage/age especially as clutch fluid is rarely bled through even during the bi-annual brake fluid change so the condition of the cylinders/pistons can be er interesting (I've seem some horror stories)!!  I also think the 1.6 Greenline diesel has an external slave cylinder (unlike the 2.0) so not a gearbox off job - ie cheaper  simpler. Also you are only dealing with the hydraulics once and not risking doing half a job to then experience another potential breakdown.

 

I would have though a code would show up if EML is on however I do wonder if something has been disturbed. Out of interest was cruise control working ok on the way back? Also where was it last filled with diesel?

Edited 20 September, 20223 yr by bigjohn

15 minutes ago, bigjohn said:

 

Presuming it's master and slave being changed I'd say in this case it's sensible at this high mileage/age especially as clutch fluid is rarely bled through even during the bi-annual brake fluid change so the condition of the cylinders/pistons can be er interesting (I've seem some horror stories)!!  I also think the 1.6 Greenline has an external slave cylinder so not a gearbox off job - ie cheaper  simpler. Also you are only dealing with the hydraulics once and not risking doing half a job to then experience another potential breakdown.

 

I would have though a code would show up if EML is on however I do wonder if something has been disturbed. Out of interest was cruise control working ok on the way back? Also where was it last filled with diesel?

Yes the job was much cheaper than originally quoted which was 2,500/3,000€. Ended up just under 800€.

 

I never use cruise control.

The car was full of diesel when it was left at the garage.

3 minutes ago, Tresco said:

 

I never use cruise control.

 

 

Ok - it was just a diagnostic enquiry as cruise control uses a sensor from the clutch master cylinder - cruise disengages when clutch pedal is depressed. Of anything to have been disturbed is the wiring to this.......

Edited 20 September, 20223 yr by bigjohn

3 hours ago, KenONeill said:

So, yet again, we catch a garage using the parts cannon at the owner's expense.

 

I'm no defender of french garagistes but what they did in this instance was very prudent.

 

Now we know it was not a gearbox out job I think the MIL light coming on now is simply a coincidence but the clutch master cylinder is definitely something to check, I seem to recall breaking the latch on mine when struggling to remove it and I think it is now tywrapped in position, they may have done the same but not secured it hoping that it would remain in place.

Well yesterday I drove about 60 miles. When I left home the bulb light came on on the dash. I checked when I got home and one of the front driving lights was out.

OH replaced the bulb and was going to take the car to the local garage to check why the engine management light was on. When he restarted the car heyho the bulb light and the  engine management light had both gone out.

 

On 22/09/2022 at 15:23, Tresco said:

When he restarted the car heyho the bulb light and the  engine management light had both gone out.

 

 

I had a career based on turn if off and on and again (IT) 🤣

 

Sometimes a glitch can trigger an EML incident that clears after a set number of starts - in the case of my Superb it was shortly after I had bought it and filled to the brim in Luxemburg (cheaper petrol). I booked it into a German dealer en-route after phoning my home dealer for advice. The EML had cleared before I arrived at the dealer - but they checked it out anyway, saying "von clik halte!!"

 

Edited 28 September, 20223 yr by bigjohn

19 minutes ago, bigjohn said:

 

I had a career based on turn if off and on and again (IT) 🤣

 Don’t knock it, the method works on cars as well…😄