Still a hard no here, particularly at the price. Feel like the clothing brands that used to buy a 50p polo top, add their logo and decide it was £80 now 😂

With the noises on it really does sound as sh!te in real life as it does on here IMO.   

As does the Abarth. 

As for JCW Trim, well that is a p1ss take.

 

The key fob never needs to come out your pocket or bag, it is keyless entry and start.

 

As to the touch screen and all that is there, bl00dy fantastic if you are very good with your left hand / fingers if you want to select stuff on the screen in a right hand drive car.

Reaching across with the right hand to do it when driving is just not really possible unless you have a very long arm or fingers. 

ET Come Home!.

 

 

 

Well explained. Facts.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 1 July, 20241 yr by Ootohere

There are New / Delivery miles or well under 1,000 miles MINI Electrics (SE Level 2 or 3) of the up to February registered or so current models for as low as £18,000 advertised, 

& as crazy high as £40,000.  Possibly an error, or some dealer putting up the Average Prices for Autotrader....

 

^^^ Not based on the BMW iX1 Platform. 

 

 

 

 

So. Might as well see what it is all about.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 6 July, 20241 yr by Ootohere

 

^^^ Robert just a bit too much of being a smart arse.  MINI / BMW did not just sell 28,000 MINI Electrics, that is how many First Registered in the UK.

She knows not the base or the cheapest. Smaller battery, least power, extras paint, wheels in the size tested.

 

Sitting the charging cable behind the drivers seat is just Simply clever if rear seats down or not and stuff carried in the car.

 

 

 

 

Edited 20 July, 20241 yr by Ootohere

I still have not seen or heard from anyone how many miles they actually get full to empty with the small battery or big battery New Mini Coopers so that is the E or SE.

 

I was going to get to borrow one for a few days and hoped to get it for this weekend and take it to Banchory to spectate at the Voyonic Grampian Forest Rally but it was not available.

So going with a diesel as charging is so crap in the area to take my MINI. 

 

From having short drives, the steering wheel is far too fat, the centre controls are crap and no way would i run one with 18" rims / Tyres. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 11 August, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Just add 'All Weather' tyres. It can grip and go. 

 

 

 

CITY CARS, are perfect COUNTRYSIDE, real UK driving cars for maybe 1,2,3 or sometimes 4 people.

Where a SUV / 4x4 / MPV is not required, or actually a total PITA.

£30,000 starting prices are a p!$$ take really and a Petrol Mini might be a better OUT OF TOWN, VILLAGE or CITY car for people who just need to go places.

Or one or 2 peoples that are not Vloggers / Bloggers, Motoring Journalists or car reviewers. 

 

OBVIOUSLY you can open the rear hatch and remove the parcel shelf or not and drop one or both rear seats without needing to be opening the doors and getting in the car.

The picnic baskets were chosen because tiny.(edit)  & the floor could be removed or dropped to have fitted them in and give more space.

Maybe put the charging cable behind the drivers seat where there is no room for anyones legs and you are opening the drivers door to get out to charge.

Take out the AC cable, charge, then when finished put back, no need to open the rear hatch.  Especially if you needed to be all the way reversed to a charger.

But that would be DC and a Tesla Charger. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No idea why I never got myself a Paceman. Really nice inside. Probably they were just too expensive.

Going to see the New Aceman next week. No driving them though. 

 

 

 

Edited 12 October, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Good to see that someone bothers to look and find that the level of regen has options.  (just a pity not while driving.)

Something that many a Motoring Journalist never bothered to find and tell us about.

 

 

 

 

 

Not just JCW trim but John Cooper Works Mini Cooper & Aceman electric models available next year.

 

From £38,420 next April. Order from end of October.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 16 October, 20241 yr by Ootohere

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 1 November, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Real world perfect condition, under 50kWh battery 4 miles to the kWh so 200 miles, maybe,  not 5 miles to a kWh.

under 40 kWh battery, still a heavy car 160'ish miles.  But probably not. 

 

Best way to know is drive one for 4 hours...Simples.

 

Bigger than a MINI 3 door hatch, is a MINI 5 door hatch.  ICE vehicle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 24 November, 20241 yr by Ootohere

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 12 January, 20251 yr by Ootohere

A story on MINI Electric cars and production of these or not in the UK. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 2 February, 20251 yr by Ootohere

Honest statements by Mini website.

 

Comments about Renault 5 being much lighter and even more premium have given BMW much to think about.

 

Hope it benefits Oxford Cowley plant.

 

BMW are one of the Employers I get getting invited to apply to their customs department and they clearly see much more."customs" goings on in their business now the trade war has gone full chat.

 

They already look a bit like a tarts handbag with JCW plastic tat, but some paint & headlight protection is maybe a good thing. Protecting the Shiny Black Plastic stuff is just a 'Simply Clever' thing to do IMO.

I like.

I would have before i would have a Chinese Built MINI Cooper or Aceman.

Edited 12 May, 20251 yr by Ootohere

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I have yet to see a review on a BEV where the batteries are up high maybe on the roof so above the drivers head rather than below the arse of those in the car.

My laddo looking to get a Great Wall Motors Mini and the E version rather than the SE version so smaller battery but the acceleration is very similar between the E and SE ie 184 and 218 hp versions, torque us more similar than power and E has less weight of course.

ZEPREF site test results gave the 184 hp E at 7.2 to 100 kph and the 218 hp SE version at 6.8 seconds so pretty close.

Always the issue with Minis, even Chinese built ones, the adding of packs etc can make car more expensive than first expected.

SE with Exclusive or Sport pack adding up to £35k retail. E can be had for just over £30k with Exclusive trim and non standard colour. I like the green but lad leaning towards blue.

Range probably not great but he will have option of my Scenic or maybe an R5 if he needs more range than the 140 to 190 miles rated on the Mini E.

Thought the E might be LFP but gather it us also NMC Lithium like bigger battery Minis.

I watched a Vid review this morning of someone doing a "Full in-Depth review" of a MINI Cooper SE.

He said he was getting 2.9 mile a kWh and with a 37 kWh battery 100 miles was not enough etc etc.

He was not in a MINI E with a 4.2 kWh battery it was a Cooper SE with a 54.2 kWh battery.

So much for his full in-depth review & not knowing which car he had been loaned.

Most noticeable from the side over the last MINI SE or ICE MINI,s is no plastic wheel arch trims.

That you can spot from 100 yards away, when the door handles you might not!

Someone read the Media pack.

A MINI E.

One of the first reviews and still one of very few there are on the smaller battery low powered car.

Edited 1 June, 20251 yr by Ootohere

If you actually want the Extra Power over the 218 PS Cooper S and the different suspension & tyres then you can expect the ride to maybe be even harder. Strange that it should surprise anyone, but then they are just reviewing.

What you get all the time when you get fed up of wheel spin is you get the look at me tarty shiny plastics.

(You can have that with the JCW trim on the not a JCW MINI as well.)

No idea where he got the body being being stronger from. I will ask him!

Edited 3 June, 20251 yr by Ootohere

Fuel & Energy efficiency really rather crap with these latest models. (everything said or written needs taken with a pinch of salt, they had months now to correct the vid.)

NSL,s in the quicker models,

but maybe seeing the less powerful ICE & BEV models in a comparison test would be interesting.

Glaring error on the versions available is the MINI E has 181 bhp, Not 246 bhp.

The John Cooper Works electric is 258 bhp. The Cooper SE as they have is the 218 bhp. NOT 292 BHP.

Someone had a brain fart at the graphics dept. (Prices are nothing like shown anymore.)

If the MINI SE could do 4 miles a kWh and get 200 miles you could set off from a home charge @ 7 pence a kWh and that would be £3.50, then is you needed to put in 60 miles of charge @ 85 pence a kWh. You need 15 kWh & to spend £12.75, plus £3.50 = £16.25

Just get 3.5 miles a kWh and go 175 miles for £3.50, go to a Tesla Supercharger to add 85 mile @ 60 pence, 25 kWh call it, £15.00, = £18.50. (The Social divide.)

Edited 7 June, 20257 Jun by Ootohere

29 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

Fuel & Energy efficiency really rather crap with these latest models. (everything said or written needs taken with a pinch of salt, they had months now to correct the vid.)

NSL,s in the quicker models,

but maybe seeing the less powerful ICE & BEV models in a comparison test would be interesting.

Glaring error on the versions available is the MINI E has 181 bhp, Not 246 bhp.

The John Cooper Works electric is 258 bhp. The Cooper SE as they have is the 218 bhp. NOT 292 BHP.

Someone had a brain fart at the graphics dept. (Prices are nothing like shown anymore.)

And in other good new Mini top reliability .........

https://www.whatcar.com/news/reliability-survey-most-reliable-cars-brands/n26159

Skoda best VAG in 13th, shockers for Audi and SEAT. MG OMG.

Brand reliability for cars aged up to five years old

Rank	Brand	Reliability rating
1	Mini	98.3%
2	Lexus	97.9%
3	Suzuki	97.7%
4	Honda	96.6%
5	Toyota	96.1%
6	Dacia	96.0%
7	Citroen	94.1%
8	BMW	94.0%
9	Renault	93.6%
10	Hyundai	93.5%
11	Kia	93.4%
12	Volvo	92.8%
13	Skoda	91.8%
14	Ford	91.5%
15	Tesla	91.4%
16	Mazda	91.1%
17	Cupra	90.6%
18	Volkswagen	90.5%
19	Peugeot	90.3%
20	Jaguar	90.1%
21	Porsche	90.0%
22	Mercedes	89.7%
23	Polestar	89.3%
24	Audi	89.0%
25	Fiat	88.2%
26	Seat	87.5%
27	Land Rover	87.1%
28	Nissan	85.9%
29	Vauxhall	84.7%
30	Alfa Romeo	84.1%
31	MG	76.9%