Future Hybrid Kodiaq

[Rogerstone]

I read that they are launching hybrid versions of the Kodiaq at some point.

 

Does anyone have any idea around the engine types, plug in capacity etc? or is it just a case of looking at what Audi are offering at the mo and hoping it translates into the Skoda line-up?

[kodiaqsportline]

1 hour ago, Rogerstone said:

I read that they are launching hybrid versions of the Kodiaq at some point.

 

Does anyone have any idea around the engine types, plug in capacity etc? or is it just a case of looking at what Audi are offering at the mo and hoping it translates into the Skoda line-up?

 

All the mainstream VW Group brands share the same parts bin so current Audi offerings are as good a guide as any.  ( that said, II'm sure Skoda offered the 1.5tsi before Audi - at least here in the UK anyway ).

 

And the direction things are going, the current Audi hybrid price list won't be that far off what Skoda will charge for it.  🤣 

Edited 12 May, 2023 by kodiaqsportline

[SurreyJohn]

22 hours ago, Rogerstone said:

I read that they are launching hybrid versions of the Kodiaq at some point.

Clearly says choice will be petrol, diesel, plug-in hybrid and mild hybrid.

 

https://www.skoda-storyboard.com/en/skoda-world/first-taster-a-glimpse-of-the-superb-and-kodiaq/

 

The mild hybrid will presumably be a similar engine to the current 1.5 mhev, although yet to be seen if there will be a 2 litre version (might be too similar output to plug- in to justify it)

 

I suspect the plug in hybrid will have same power train as new generation Superb mark4, so basically an update of current superb iV unit.

 

Doesn't appear to be any self charging full hybrids

Fairly sure, VW group also announced few months ago cancelling further development of engines, sticking with existing euro 6d, as euro 7 to expensive to develop, so will simply phase out existing engines in affected countries when new rules apply.

 

Edited 13 May, 2023 by SurreyJohn

[Yogi-Bear]

2 hours ago, SurreyJohn said:

Doesn't appear to be any self charging full hybrids

 

There definitely seems to be a divide between European manufacturers (VAG, BMW, Mercedes) preferring plug-in hybrids, and Toyota/Honda preferring self-charging ones. But there are a few (e.g. Kia, Renault) who seem to be doing both…

[Ootohere]

'Mild hybrid'  is what is called by some 'Self charging'.  e-Tech or what ever term.

 

So for Euro 7 that would likely be 1.5 TSI Mild Hybrid, 

1.4 TSI PHEV unless they do them with 1.5 TSI for PHEV's. 

[ZacDaMan72]

16 hours ago, toot said:

'Mild hybrid'  is what is called by some 'Self charging'

Disagree. A mild hybrid in 99.9% of cases cannot operate in a full electric mode unlike a self charging hybrid.

 

@Rogerstone in the annual press conference they confirmed both Superb and Kodiaq PHEV will have an electric-only range of over 62mi/100km but otherwise no technical details as of yet.

[Ootohere]

@ZacDaMan72I have in the past weeks driven Renault e-Tech Capture (& a PHEV model) & Clio e-Tech 145 with 1.6 litre engines and a Suzuki s-Cross & Vitara looking at replacements for my BEV..

Mild Hybrids or self charging hybrids.

No point getting concerned over the terms as they get called 'Full hybrids' as well. 

 

Que sera sera, 

But Skoda will announce what ever when ever but it can only be what is available from the VW group and then they can use what ever terms or words.

It is an issue that VW have not got Full Fat Hybrids.  But then they spent billions going for Diesel Hybrids, even building factories to produce them in and then the truth came out about VW and diesel's. 

 

 

A Briskoda member and another of his excellent vids.

 

 

Edited 14 May, 2023 by toot

[SurreyJohn]

Details of new Kodiaq engines now released

 

https://www.skoda-storyboard.com/en/press-kits/the-all-new-skoda-kodiaq-press-kit/

 

1.5 mild hybrid tsi 150hp

2.0 tsi  204hp with 4x4

2.0 diesel 150hp

2.0 diesel 193hp with 4x4

all these with 7speed DSG

 

also 1.5 Plug in hybrid 204hp (combined petrol and electric) 6speed DSG

 

all engines meet euro 6e standard

[Yogi-Bear]

Can I have mine with that funky paint / colour scheme, please…? 😁

 

Alas, no mention of anything that would go in a vRS, so I guess it’s either a case of keeping that under wraps for the launch event, it launching later on, or it not existing at all.

[ZacDaMan72]

For christ sake. Why does the VW Group have to gatekeep so much. So I have to get a Q5 PHEV if I want an AWD PHEV from the group...

[Kungfumonkey]

I'm hoping for a Plug-in Hybrid vRS with +300 bhp combined, that would be nice.

But instead I'm probably going to buy a nearly new vRS TSI and pimp that bad boy.

[technics100]

Is there any idea on timescales? I'm due to renew me lease next July, I had my Kodiaq in for some warranty work last month and they said I should order now for next July?? I just wouldn't want to and end up missing a newer version / hybrid model. 

[Yogi-Bear]

My guess would be a launch towards the end of this year / beginning of 2024, with production ramping up over the next few months and first deliveries around June/July (current models will probably be stock-only from around the time of the launch, if not we’ll before due to the current long lead times).

 

If you order now, you will order a current model. You won’t be able to place an order for a new model until the order books open after it is launched. It’s not like a model year change where you can end up with a slight variation in spec from what you ordered…

[technics100]

On 30/06/2023 at 17:26, Yogi-Bear said:

My guess would be a launch towards the end of this year / beginning of 2024, with production ramping up over the next few months and first deliveries around June/July (current models will probably be stock-only from around the time of the launch, if not we’ll before due to the current long lead times).

 

If you order now, you will order a current model. You won’t be able to place an order for a new model until the order books open after it is launched. It’s not like a model year change where you can end up with a slight variation in spec from what you ordered…

 

Thanks, Yeah I missed the facelift last time by a few months.. so might hold off and extend the lease for a few months if needed..