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Stock clutch for 245 Remap

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Afternoon all!

 

I've had my VRS 245 for 3 days now and thinking about a remap. Having spoken to Midland VW they have explained the reputation of the stock clutch and suggested they upgrade the clutch and flywheel at the same time taking the cost from £650 (remap only) to £1550. 

 

Flat out had not budgeted for that but happy to learn from others experience and consider. 

 

The car is a 2019 manual with 39K on the clock. It was fully serviced and in great condition but I purchased from AC so I don't have any knowledge of the previous owner or how the car was driven. 

 

Has anyone had a remap on stock and immediately need a new clutch and how long does a clutch roughly to last following? (I do a lot of motorway with work, I drive 'enthusiastically' around town but I don't launch at every opportunity for context)

 

Cheers

I had my 67 plate 245 manual remapped Tuesday this week. 51k miles on stock clutch and seems fine still. Tried to make it slip and can't feel any slippage. I'd also heard about stock clutches not being good enough but decided to get the remap and go from there instead of a preemptive clutch and flywheel change. 

 

That being said £900 extra for clutch and flywheel sounds good if includes fitting. 

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Fair enough @Tazdaz - Let me know how you get on without? I have 3 months warranty on the car from the dealer so I might leave it until that expires then try the remap alone...

I got a revo stage 1 remap on my 2014 220 tsi. I’ve posted on this before. I remapped the car when it had 70k about 4 years ago. It’s now on 136k on same stock clutch.

 

when I got it mapped they were able to adapt the boost kicking in to later on as they were worried about slip. I said that was fine. So it still hits peak power and torque just a little later. 
 

clutch is still fine!

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That's interesting - I'm guessing there was a new clutch in the first 70k? 

I bought it from a dealer in 2018 with 70k. Full service history and no clutch. My guess is the first 70k were mostly motorway as just under 20k per annum. 
 

so still on original clutch. To be fair I don’t hoon it much. 

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That's encouraging to hear. I murdered out my airbox on the weekend and fitting ramair new turbo inlet later so may as well go whole hog and give the remap a go 😂

I have the 230bhp model i mapped it to to stage 1 300bhp. The clutch started to slip then mapped it to stage 2 over 300bhp then the clutch really started to slip.

I ordered a racing clutch and flywheel from awesome gti for less than £1000 and cost nothing to fit as i fitted it myself.

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Can we go back to dumping positivity on the post to save me a bag o'sand please @mattft86? 😂

Just tell me everything is going to be okay..... 

In all seriousness, when the clutch started slipping, whats it like? Is the car undriveable? 

1 minute ago, DavidBates said:

Can we go back to dumping positivity on the post to save me a bag o'sand please @mattft86? 😂

Just tell me everything is going to be okay..... 

In all seriousness, when the clutch started slipping, whats it like? Is the car undriveable? 

Haha sorry, it didn't slip right away i noticed it about 3 months later. I could still drive the car fine but i couldn't pull off quick it just slipped and on the motorway doing 70 if i stuck my foot down it would rev up then it would pull once the clutch stopped slipping.

When i went stage 2 it had to be changed just slipped most of the time. But when i took the clutch out it didn't look worn out at all.

On 03/06/2023 at 16:00, DavidBates said:

Let me know how you get on without? I have 3 months warranty on the car from the dealer so I might leave it until that expires

 

That didn't last long!

 

1 hour ago, DavidBates said:

I murdered out my airbox on the weekend and fitting ramair new turbo inlet later

 

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9 minutes ago, mattft86 said:

When i went stage 2 it had to be changed just slipped most of the time. But when i took the clutch out it didn't look worn out at all.

That's weird - I assumed that they slipped when they were battered. 

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8 minutes ago, J.R. said:

 

That didn't last long!

 

 

😂 I am very fluid when it comes to these things.... 

 

To be fair I haven't fitted anything i can't swap back pretty easily. 

2 minutes ago, DavidBates said:

That's weird - I assumed that they slipped when they were battered. 

They do unless you over power them see its not the bhp you need to worry about its the torque. Mines 550nm now. 

If you zoom in that’s what the standard clutch looked like when I pulled it out

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2 hours ago, mattft86 said:

Haha sorry, it didn't slip right away i noticed it about 3 months later. I could still drive the car fine but i couldn't pull off quick it just slipped and on the motorway doing 70 if i stuck my foot down it would rev up then it would pull once the clutch stopped slipping.

I better start saving for a clutch then...zero slip so far.

 

Had a good play over weekend and did a long run and MPG unaffected if that matters to anyone. Lights up the tyres if floor it in 2nd though. 

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