Looking for some advice if I can.

 

When I first got my Superb (current car) I had plenty of time to get some mileage on it locally to and from work on A/B Roads and in town etc before loading the car with a full family, full roof box and full boot for a long motorway trip for a holiday.

 

It is increasingly looking likely that my Kodiaq replacement will be here very near to a holiday.  It has been in Emden nearly 3 weeks and is still showing as being there, albeit the dealer is being told by Skoda UK it is on track for delivery and being registered in September.  If I am lucky I might have put about 300 miles on it before setting off. 

 

The holiday I have booked for late October involves a mixed Motorway and A Road drive from Lincolnshire to the Scottish Highlands which again will be fully loaded weight wise. The first day is about 300 miles to Glasgow and then a further 150 miles up into the Highlands the next day.

 

Having read the manual it says

 

The driving style during the first 1,500 km determines the quality of the engine run-in process.

For the first 1,000 km load the engine to maximum 3/4 of the highest permissible engine speed and avoid using a trailer.

Over the next 500 km the engine speed can be slowly increased.

 

The car is the 2L Petrol DSG so can I assume just drive normally, thinking of the current car which is a 2L Petrol DSG the REVs never go above 2500 on the motorway and normal driving and only occasionally up to ~3000 on a couple of hills in Scotland.  Obviously loading wise the car will be full (4 adults, full boot and roof box for the journey up).

 

Is there anything I need to be conscious of given the newness of the vehicle.  Obviously will take spare oil with me as I always do, my current Superb tends to use a little (~250ml) on the journey there and again on the way back.

 

Apologies for what a probably silly questions but am just a little concerned with the newness and long distance etc.

 

Thanks

Have fun.

 

Run in the tyres after checking and resetting the tyre pressures. Get the newness off them.

Run in the brakes / pads and the suspension & the engine and gearbox will be fine.

 

Check the Oil cold when you get the car and then when at the normal operating temperature and know where the levels are for future refferance.

1 minute ago, toot said:

Have fun.

 

Run in the tyres after checking and resetting the tyre pressures. Get the newness off them.

Run in the brakes / pads and the suspension & the engine and gearbox will be fine.

 

Check the Oil cold when you get the car and then when at the normal operating temperature and know where the levels are for future refferance.

^^^ Plus avoid using full throttle, vary speed often rather than keeping to steady speed, don't allow DSG to shift up to top gear too early (perhaps switch to S).

7 speed wet clutch DSG, put it in D and drive.

Like every rep / Sales person in a Demonstrator does.

The only difference is they are in a unloaded car.      The p1ss in owners manuals has been the same for decades. 

 

@NX01If you are buying oil for top up,s or asking the Sales Person for a litre free, it is to the spec VW 508 00 / 509 00.  0w 20 FS IV.  

So not the 0w 30 FS III or 5w 30 FS III if that is what have have available. that is VW 504 00 / 507 00

Edited 17 September, 20232 yr by toot

2 hours ago, NX01 said:

Is there anything I need to be conscious of given the newness of the vehicle. 

Moderate your driving in line with the oil temp, if you can.

Oil temp is not shown until the temperature hits 50C, and decent operating temperature is nearer 80C.

Don't let the water temp fool you into thinking your engine is up to temperature. 👍

 

 

1 hour ago, Warrior193 said:

^^^ Plus avoid using full throttle, vary speed often rather than keeping to steady speed, don't allow DSG to shift up to top gear too early (perhaps switch to S).

This is a good point that I completely overlooked. The 2.0TSI DSG cars will happily change up at quite low revs, which might not be ideal during running-in.

I have no experience of the 220 engine, but the 190 engine is happy to try and pretend it's a diesel when it comes to low down grunt. 😊

Thanks all, really appreciate the advice.  Am probably worrying over nothing with taking a brand new car on holiday so quickly but but feel a little OCD with it all wanting to make sure no issues etc.

Enjoy your new car and holiday. If travelling in UK, avoid motorway rush hours if you can - I always try to get an early start.

On 17/09/2023 at 19:00, NX01 said:

Thanks all, really appreciate the advice.  Am probably worrying over nothing with taking a brand new car on holiday so quickly but but feel a little OCD with it all wanting to make sure no issues etc.

When it comes to OCD car concerns, you're in good company.

Wain until you find out about the silica bag in your coolant reservoir. 😊

 

^^^

Are they still putting those in the latest vehicles?

1 hour ago, toot said:

^^^

Are they still putting those in the latest vehicles?

Don't think so, but can't be 100% sure.

That's the beauty of OCD. It's the gift that keeps on giving. 😊

Cant you be OCD but also insouciant and a risk taker?

 

Or am I something else?

One more thought on this issue, albeit a bit late.

If you have the Gen3B engine, by running it in eco mode, the torque of the engine is limited to 250Nm.

So operating the car in ECO mode might be preferable to Sport during running-in.

If you're in a Gen3B-engined car.

See https://procarmanuals.com/self-study-program-645-audi-2-0l-tfsi-engines-ea888-series/ for more info.

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Sounds like a bad idea if you want to be using a range of RPM to have the car running like a slug with a max 250 Nm.

 

Up the Motorway at the max speed limit in D and the car is just using a small amount of its available bhp / Nm sounds fine to me.

The DSG sits in D7 unless maybe dropping a gear or 2. 

1 hour ago, toot said:

Sounds like a bad idea if you want to be using a range of RPM to have the car running like a slug with a max 250 Nm.

 

Up the Motorway at the max speed limit in D and the car is just using a small amount of its available bhp / Nm sounds fine to me.

The DSG sits in D7 unless maybe dropping a gear or 2. 

Slug mode on the 2.0 TSI isn't so bad. (Graph approximate)

Edit: That 1.5TSI data looks wrong. I have to cook tea just now but will come back to that and double-check. Can't believe it gets up to near 150HP at that RPM. 🤨

Edited 21 September, 20232 yr by EnterName

What is the benefit to the engine running that way? 

NOTE: Slug mode torque on 2.0TSI is same as peak torque for 1.5TSI. So it's not that sluggy, really.

 

Anyway, here's my revised/corrected graph. No idea why my 1.5TSI data was out like that, but as I've not shown much interest in the 1.5TSI, I guess I hadn't checked it.

 I did transfer over and transpose a lot of data at the time so I guess I went a bit number-blind.

Graph

Source data for graph. Mostly 1.5TSI data, with slug mode column added for graph. (Highlighted to show peaks)

 

Link to site where I sourced the date I've used for the basic power figures.

https://www.automobile-catalog.com/curve/2019/3147605/skoda_octavia_1_5_tsi_act_150.html#gsc.tab=0

 

I fudged the 2.0TSI slug mode power based on the torque limiter feature.

Edited 21 September, 20232 yr by EnterName

35 minutes ago, toot said:

What is the benefit to the engine running that way? 

My thinking being ECO mode limits the amount of torque the engine is permitted to develop at low revs, which will force the drive to drive at reduced power unless they really cane it.

So there's no luggy torque at low revs.

I noticed my car changing gear at higher RPM from cold in in ECO mode than it does in Drive. I assume this is as there isn't as much torque available at low RPM, so it revs a bit higher (up to around 2K), to ensure the RPM in the higher gear is appropriate for the lower torque.

 

I'll admit, it's a theory that seemed like a reasonable idea at the time. If you can fault my logic, I'll be happy to adapt my thinking if you're convincing.

1.5 TSI , ACTIVE CYLINDER TECHNOLOGY.  2 cylinders if no demand / load on the engine.

Edited 21 September, 20232 yr by toot

4 minutes ago, toot said:

1.5 TSI , ACTIVE CYLINDER TECHNOLOGY.  2 cylinders if no demand / load on the engine.

True.

And that's relevant because....?

Reminder

Edited 21 September, 20232 yr by EnterName

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Edited 21 September, 20232 yr by EnterName

@EnterNameNow you have lost me, we knew what engine car the OP was talking about and then you introduced comparisons with a 1.5 TSI ACT, then graphs.

 

I am just pointing out how the RPM of a 1.5 TSI ACT and be it in 2 or 4 cylinder mode is relevant with them.   Not relevant to the OP,s car though.

Edited 21 September, 20232 yr by toot

55 minutes ago, toot said:

@EnterNameNow you have lost me, we knew what engine car the OP was talking about and then you introduced comparisons with a 1.5 TSI ACT, then graphs.

 

I am just pointing out how the RPM of a 1.5 TSI ACT and be it in 2 or 4 cylinder mode is relevant with them.   Not relevant to the OP,s car though.

No worries, let me clarify.

When you posted....

5 hours ago, toot said:

Sounds like a bad idea if you want to be using a range of RPM to have the car running like a slug with a max 250 Nm.

All I was doing was pointing out that 250Nm does not a slug make. In fact it's the best the 1.5TSI can muster, and the 1.5TSI is no slug, AFAIK.

Hence the comparison data, which allowed me to discover my 1.5TSI data was junk, so it's not been a wasted exercise.

For me, at least.

21st century cars need very little “Running In” special treatment.

 

Simply don’t Flog It or Slog It.

 

You can’t take a DSG car to the engine Rev limiter like we used to do with manuals many years ago.

 

I always found it interesting whether a car had a hard or soft cut out at the Rev limit in lower gears.

 

Similarly, a DSG will drop a gear when it wants do. Unless you’re over-riding manually.

 

Just load up and enjoy the drive.

 

You might want to check the fluids occasionally just to make sure it’s not using any.

 

I like to check fluids and tyres quite frequently on any vehicle “new to me” then less frequently once I get to know how the vehicle behaves.

On 17/09/2023 at 19:00, NX01 said:

Thanks all, really appreciate the advice.  Am probably worrying over nothing with taking a brand new car on holiday so quickly but but feel a little OCD with it all wanting to make sure no issues etc.

As per BoxerBoy

 

Try not to rev past 3000rpm for the first 1000km and you'll be OK.  I don't do anything different with a brand new car than I would when it's 3yr old. Will check the oil more frequently but in reality none of my cars have required an oil top up.

 

As Toot said above, the only think I watch out for isn't really the new engine but new tyres - I'm always wary, especially in the wet, pulling away from standstill.  Can't remember having any horror experiences with the Kodiaq but the 19" tyres they fitted to the Karoq were a real bugger finding grip in the first 1000km. In that instance I used ECO mode as it aided traction.