High Mileage - Impact On Battery Range

[PeteAcrossChina]

Hi All,

 

Newbie to the EV world and Interested in purchasing a second hand Enyaq, looking at +15k miles and a couple of years old. Do any owners out there have any experience on how the range is impacted by higher mileage cars or older cars?

 

thanks

pete

[Warrior193]

Hello Pete, welcome to the forum. I'm not an EV owner, but I would suggest battery life/remaining capacity is more likely to be adversely affected by the way it's charged - I.e. always being charged to 100% Strongly recommend getting an independent check of battery condition on any 2nd hand EV. 

[Stripy]

I’m on 24k after 2 years and not noticed any degradation, but learned that range is impacted by road, weather and your right foot more than anything.

 

Enjoy your new wheels

[PeteAcrossChina]

Thanks both, appreciate your input. Not to self not to charge the battery to 100% 👍

[Ootohere]

Welcome to the forum.

 

Your post confused because 15,000 miles + to20,000 miles with a 2 year old car is not high miles or old.

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How many miles a year are you going to do and are you going to be charging mostly AC on a wall box or public charging on DC / CCS?

 

 

You charge to maybe 98 or 99% if you need to, @ 100% there is no regen.

If you do not need to go to 100% & have that range then you have no need to.

 

It is about DC Rapid Charging to 100% all the time and that is what many need to do.

You can maybe charge to 90% and then set for setting off and heat the cars interior for setting off and charge to 98%. 

 

This nonsense of only charging to 80% and then you maybe charge when down to 10% might suit those not going far and that are fine using 70% of the battery capacity and running from charged to a charger.

[kenfowler3966]

There are owners on the Facebook sites whose cars have already reached 100k with no real impact on range noticed.

you can’t actually charge the battery to a full 100% or completely flatten it as in the 82kW battery you can only access 77kW. This helps protect it.

Its not charging to 100% or going nearly flat which does significant damage, it is charging to 100% then not immediately using it, or nearly flat and fail to charge asap.

I normally charge to 80%, but will occasionally go to 100% if I need the extra range to do the trip and get home again, or if I would need to charge away from home to complete a trip. Every kW I charge at home instead of at a fast charger could save me between 46 to 92p!

[domhnall]

the thing to avoid os leaving your car at 100%, that's what sresses the battery and causes faster degradation. I'm at 27K miles and not seen any noricabel drop off in range

[Luckypants]

On 18/09/2023 at 20:11, PeteAcrossChina said:

Hi All,

 

Newbie to the EV world and Interested in purchasing a second hand Enyaq, looking at +15k miles and a couple of years old. Do any owners out there have any experience on how the range is impacted by higher mileage cars or older cars?

 

thanks

pete

I think take a look at Battery Life's videos about his ID.3 battery state of health. As you may know the ID.3 has the same chassis and powertrain as the Enyaq. https://www.youtube.com/@BatteryLife

He freely admits that he has abused the battery in the first year and has done high miles, but still has over 90% of original capacity after 3 years.

 

Personally my ID.4 is up to 35k miles with no noticeable drop in range, the weather has the biggest impact. I regularly see in excess of 280 mile range with 77kWh battery. As others have said charging to 100% is not a problem, it is leaving the car at this high state of charge that is a problem. Similarly, driving down to a low state of charge of 5% or less is not a problem as long as the car is not left in this state. i.e. plug in after driving and charge to at least 20% (recommended by VAG).

If the car has not been abused in this way, the battery will be good. I would ask any seller for a battery state of health report, which would be simple for a Skoda dealer. I'd also recommend making sure the car's software is up to date and all recall work carried out.

[RockyDog]

Hi , I have done 32 k in 2 years.  Normally charge to 80% and try to keep it above 15%.  Occasionaly, I charge to 100 before a long run about once a month and mostly all at 7 kw though it has had about 15 to 20 fast charges on Ionity when I  have travelled to Scotland and the occasional London and back in a day.  Usually get around 280 in Summer on the Motorway and that decays to 250/260 in winter.  No noticeable loss of range so far.  One thing I would add is on winter, I fully condition/preheat on mains before departure.  

[Gerrycan]

That is pretty much textbook battery care and good to know that it seems to be working for you.

Most battery guarantees seem to be around 70% capacity retention after 8 years, but I'm assuming that would cater for abuse by less considerate owners so, fingers crossed, you should easily improve on those figures.

[Ootohere]

Battery Warranties were discussed the other night in a post about PHEV,s.  Worth knowing just what the T&C,s are.

 

SKODA_Warranty_Terms_July_2023.pdf

[Stray]

Hi My Enyaq 60 is now 14 months old and is at 32,000 miles

Nearly always charged to 100% in the cold (7deg down) I'm getting 220 miles range averaging 4.1 Miles per Kwh

in warmer weather 10Deg plus i have had 240 mile plus range and have seen 4.5 miles per kwh.

[Stripy]

44 minutes ago, Stray said:

Hi My Enyaq 60 is now 14 months old and is at 32,000 miles

Nearly always charged to 100% in the cold (7deg down) I'm getting 220 miles range averaging 4.1 Miles per Kwh

in warmer weather 10Deg plus i have had 240 mile plus range and have seen 4.5 miles per kwh.

You must drive very very carefully and long trips to get this mileage

[Stray]

Motorways and town driving  normally sat on cruise control at 65 -70 on the motorway I'm not a racer lol

[Stripy]

5 minutes ago, Stray said:

Motorways and town driving  normally sat on cruise control at 65 -70 on the motorway I'm not a racer lol

I’m lucky if I get 3mi/kwh!! And take it gentle as granny

[Stray]

Wow. Mine had a software update last month, but has always been good. Here's today Bristol to Leeds  197 miles 4.3 mi/kWh.