Just out of interest, quotes for the Octy replac front side window was £226.85 and a replacement key was £395 😵‍💫

still making enquiries re a blind key just to open the door.

will report back when I get the info.

 

so far the best answer was as soon as we are in the car, I keep the key in case the initial scenario happens again.

 

 

Why do you want  pre-owned key?

 

There are Ebay sellers that for about £4 will provide you a key to open the door but which will not start the engine, all you need to do is send them a good side on photograph of the key blade, I use one when I go running and leave the car, I used to hide the keys but that attracts attention which is the opposite of what I want, I lock the keyring in the car with the dumb key and take that with me.

 

"still making enquiries re a blind key just to open the door." - From inside?

 

I don't know if having one would actually get you out of the car, I will try an experiment and let you know, it will go in the ignition and switch it on but I dont know 100% whether the ECU would allow you to unlock the doors.

 

You could of course have a hole water jet drilled in the passenger window allowing you to put your arm out to put the key in the lock 🤣

Edited 27 December, 20232 yr by J.R.

I can confirm that having locked myself in the car switching on the ignition with the dumb key unlocks all doors.

 

 

Thanks but this was ok in our previous Octavia, but this is a contactless ignition. The car starts with a button on the steering wheel if it senses the key somewhere in the car.

Then there is no chance of you using a second hand key.

Yes I’ve realised that thanks 

This thread is of mild interest to me as my previous Australian and basic 1.9pd mk2 (no Kessy) would lock all doors and windows from the fob so you could not get out as being reported in this thread, although I think there was an emergency method of exiting through the boot but I really cannot remember the details. Just a little disturbing and something to avoid mistakenly inflicting on a passenger even for a short time on our potentially hot days.

 

However, our current similar low spec 1.4tsi 2014 mk3 is totally different in operation as after locking with the fob, any of the doors opens from inside with the door handle or unlocking using the central lock/unlock button. Cannot find any setting on the Swing radio so far that would change it, but I'm far happier with this arrangement. No idea why the operation would be so different and yet apparently cycled around again on the mk4?

So my conclusion is that if my other half when entering the car (with or without me inside), puts the key in the glovebox  so every time he leaves the car to lock the car from the outside he has to make an effort to get the key out of the glovebox….all a bit silly but for a replacement side window at £250  (if an emergency hammer is used) and a spare key at £390, it’s the cheapest option.

 

with the old Octavia, he had to take the key out of the ignition, therefore had the key already in his hand ready to get out and lock it, but with this mk4 E -tec, he unlocks it from the outside, then the key remains somewhere in the car, so he has to find it to lock up, so I think this will be just less likely for this to happen.   At the end of the day, I rarely stay inside the car anyway.

 

thanks for you reply.  Still think a passenger should be able to get out if locked in.   Perhaps one of the Skoda designers should try being locked in on a hot day🙀😵‍💫

Just info:-

 

If anybody is locked in a car and need to get out by breaking a window they can try this.

Remove a headrest and use one of the metal legs to break the glass.

Don't forget if you can not get a front one out ( electric adjustment but no power ) us a rear one.

 

HTH

 

Thanks. AG Falco

beat advice if you don’t have a safety hammer!  Hope I never have to do that though.
 

Yes what a pain not being able to get the front headrest off, can’t get any decent car seat covers because of that!

3 hours ago, Gerrycan said:

our current similar low spec 1.4tsi 2014 mk3 is totally different in operation as after locking with the fob, any of the doors opens from inside with the door handle or unlocking using the central lock/unlock button.

 

That surprises me, have you tried testing it after 5 minutes or so after going through the correct locking procedure, ignition off, door open, door closed then locked from remote then wait for alarm to activate? All VAG vehicles have had deadlocking for close to 30 years now.

 

That said I have a recollection that on my MK1 Octavia if I slept inside with the alarm sensor disabled (button on B post) and the doors locked I could open the drivers door only from the inside handle but if ot was locked from the outside it was 100% definitely deadlocked, the MK2 and Yeti do not behave the same, I once locked myself in the Yeti!

I have a 2011 Octavia estate, and I am really concerned by this post and some of the self-righteous answers to it. No, no one would probably chose to be locked in a car, but it can happen. 
I did this this afternoon. I went to pay for parking, and I think that as I got my phone out of my pocket to pay, I must have pressed the keys and my wife was locked in. You now have a potentially lethal situation.
What happens if your sat next to an electric car whose battery cascades (as they do) and it's going off next to you. There is no way you can get out. You will laterally fry to death because of a software bug.
I have tried pressing the lock button on the central console and nothing happens.
Cars are recalled for far less than this. It is a major safety issue, and needs to be addressed. Do you remember how they changed the doors on every fridge in the world because little kids were getting stuck inside and suffocating - the fridge makers were forced to have social responsibility, so why are car makers exempt from this safety coercion (we all know VW/Skoda don't naturally have any morals so they would need to be forced).

If you did not have bad luck you have no luck if the Skoda locks you in and you are next to an EV that has gone on fire.

Best buy that Glass Hammer. 

 

I hope it is not a Skoda that missed the recall that sets the EV on fire and their occupants are locked in. 

 

http://skoda-auto.com/services/recall-campaigns

REMEMBER and check the AIR BAG RECALL.

 

Edited 22 November, 20241 yr by Ootohere

1 hour ago, BristolPete said:

I have a 2011 Octavia estate, and I am really concerned by this post and some of the self-righteous answers to it. No, no one would probably chose to be locked in a car, but it can happen. 
I did this this afternoon. I went to pay for parking, and I think that as I got my phone out of my pocket to pay, I must have pressed the keys and my wife was locked in. You now have a potentially lethal situation.
What happens if your sat next to an electric car whose battery cascades (as they do) and it's going off next to you. There is no way you can get out. You will laterally fry to death because of a software bug.
I have tried pressing the lock button on the central console and nothing happens.
Cars are recalled for far less than this. It is a major safety issue, and needs to be addressed. Do you remember how they changed the doors on every fridge in the world because little kids were getting stuck inside and suffocating - the fridge makers were forced to have social responsibility, so why are car makers exempt from this safety coercion (we all know VW/Skoda don't naturally have any morals so they would need to be forced).

You locked your wife in the car, how is that a software bug or skoda’s issue?

Most if not all modern cars have deadlocks so if you lock it with the remote it cannot be unlocked from the inside, that’s the whole point. 
 

When you have seen the remains (or lack of them) of someone who bought a state of the art electric car and paid for it with their life it does tend to focus the mind.
Yes I have a belt cutter/window breaker, but I've never tried one out so I have no real idea how they work, which probably makes them useless in a crisis. Using this method could also make for a very expensive shopping trip.
I am impressed by you guy (who from your confidence in them) have tried them out, and given their partners/children the same chance, so that this design issue isn't a safety concern. Did you test it once or do you do an evacuation drill every year, as one has to by law with a building where you only have to walk through an unlocked door. What does your insurance company make of this? Can I come round and test one out on your rig?
I think this is a serious problem. I value my family being alive more than I fear someone stealing my car, and I know that I wouldn't want to have to have them identified them from dental records.

@Neily03 makes a valid point.

5 hours ago, BristolPete said:

When you have seen the remains (or lack of them) of someone who bought a state of the art electric car and paid for it with their life it does tend to focus the mind.
Yes I have a belt cutter/window breaker, but I've never tried one out so I have no real idea how they work, which probably makes them useless in a crisis. Using this method could also make for a very expensive shopping trip.
I am impressed by you guy (who from your confidence in them) have tried them out, and given their partners/children the same chance, so that this design issue isn't a safety concern. Did you test it once or do you do an evacuation drill every year, as one has to by law with a building where you only have to walk through an unlocked door. What does your insurance company make of this? Can I come round and test one out on your rig?
I think this is a serious problem. I value my family being alive more than I fear someone stealing my car, and I know that I wouldn't want to have to have them identified them from dental records.

Are you ok?

I am now scared to go out, or to stay in.

When i do i will carry a centre punch. 

Always amazed to see that when anyone complains that a feature is inherently dangerous they get an indignant response that that is how it's meant to work.

Yes, I'm aware what a feature is.  It's still inherently dangerous. It needs to be fixed.

- this is why safety regulations are put in place  - to remove features that do not take into account the automatic behaviour of people, particularly in stressful situations.

Lots of issues in Australia with kids being locked in cars in hot sun. 

Primary issue is adults automatically locking the car when they get out, because automatic is how people operate

They then recall that their kid is in the car and unlock it.  And after 30 seconds (while they go indoors) the car AUTOMATICALLY relocks the car with the kid inside.

From the AA with regard to using escape tools. 

  Luckily, these types of accidents are rare – in 2017 there were an estimated 8,000 crashes where a vehicle became partially or fully submerged

  During testing, AAA researchers found that only four of the tools were able to shatter the tempered glass and none were able to break the laminated glass, which stayed intact even after being cracked.

On 23/11/2024 at 15:07, Ootohere said:

I am now scared to go out

 

Quite right, you don't want to end up laterally fried to death!

 

But if you must go out and lock yourself in your car next to a blazing EV make sure to turn around slowly like a rotisserie to avoid being fried on one side only