Enyaq rear drum brakes, why!!!

[roughrider10]

Can anyone explain to me why ŠKODA have fitted drum breaks to the Enyaq.

[Stonekeeper]

Drum brakes are thought to be a good idea for EVs because they use so much regenerative braking.

 

Discs get oxidization on them due to lack of use?

[Luckypants]

Because due to regen braking, the rear brakes are barely used. The front disks don't get a lot of use either, except when coming to rest. Switching to drums makes the rear brakes practically 'sealed for life' and need no interventions in normal servicing. Drum brakes are also better at being parking brakes too. Take a look at this video by Tesla Bjorn of an ID.3 drum brake being inspected after 2 years and 60k kms, shows it to be a good decision.

By contrast, Tesla rear disk brakes have well known corrosion and seizing problems.

 

https://youtu.be/r1XvoTIyWzE?feature=shared

 

[roughrider10]

1 minute ago, Stonekeeper said:

Drum brakes are thought to be a good idea for EVs because they use so much regenerative braking.

 

Discs get oxidization on them due to lack of use?

Interesting point, I know that the rear discs have been an issue on many different manufacturers EV’s.

I currently have a KIA E Niro 4+, interestingly I haven’t had any issues with the rear discs.

The KIA is okay, just okay, but build quality hasn’t matched that of my MK3 Superb SE L Executive which I really miss.

[roughrider10]

7 minutes ago, Luckypants said:

Because due to regen braking, the rear brakes are barely used. The front disks don't get a lot of use either, except when coming to rest. Switching to drums makes the rear brakes practically 'sealed for life' and need no interventions in normal servicing. Drum brakes are also better at being parking brakes too. Take a look at this video by Tesla Bjorn of an ID.3 drum brake being inspected after 2 years and 60k kms, shows it to be a good decision.

By contrast, Tesla rear disk brakes have well known corrosion and seizing problems.

 

https://youtu.be/r1XvoTIyWzE?feature=shared

 

Very good points made there, I could only relate to my current experience with the Kia, rear discs still in very good condition.

I am seriously looking at returning to ŠKODA, especially the Enyaq as a replacement for the Kia.

[Luckypants]

Corrosion and seizing are problems on EV friction brakes due to getting a lot less use because regen takes care of most of braking. EV service specialists know that brakes need a 'lubrication service' as part of regular servicing to keep them tip-top whereas car manufacturers have not twigged on to differences between EV and ICE cars in how it operates. Brakes are one example, 12V battery charging problems is another. (VW / Skoda cured a 12V battery flat problem by switching to another battery chemistry and changing the charging algorithm. Software version 2.4 had the s/w update and a new battery as part of a recall that affected ID cars and Enyaq).

[roughrider10]

Thanks to all of you who replied, last question is, are you al happy with your purchases, has the Enyaq lived up to your expectations.

[Luckypants]

I have an ID.4 rather than an Enyaq but they are the same car underneath. I'm happy with mine and has lived up to expectations. As long as you have the latest software update installed if buying used. You will probably find an MEB based car thirsty after an E-Niro, over 4 miles per kWh is the exception rather than the rule.

 

[roughrider10]

1 hour ago, Luckypants said:

I have an ID.4 rather than an Enyaq but they are the same car underneath. I'm happy with mine and has lived up to expectations. As long as you have the latest software update installed if buying used. You will probably find an MEB based car thirsty after an E-Niro, over 4 miles per kWh is the exception rather than the rule.

 

The best I have got from the KIA was 5.7, only once though, on average it's 4.3 - 4.6, sometimes I dip down to around 3.4.

[Ootohere]

A Kia Nitro EV, or PHEV or Mild Hybrid are fwd and rear discs rusting will depend very much on if a driver uses much braking and location location location.     My Corsa Electric had 2 set of replacement discs in 3 years.  It did 60,000 miles but I hardly use the brakes.  They were red with rust on the rear from lack of use.  My 5 month old MINI Electric with over 5,000 miles has the brakes scrapping all the time now.  They corroded badly in the last month.  They might well need replacing before it gets to the 2 year brake fluid change or 25,000 mile service.  

[Phil245]

I'm very happy with my Enyaq, I've been lucky enough to have some fairly decent cars over the years,( Audi's, VW's, BMW's, Mercedes) but this is the best.............

 

 

 

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Edited 9 January by Phil245

[domhnall]

On 08/01/2024 at 14:08, roughrider10 said:

Thanks to all of you who replied, last question is, are you al happy with your purchases, has the Enyaq lived up to your expectations.

 

so happy with it I made a video

 

 

previously I have had numerous Skodas (1 x estelle, 2 x favorit, 1 x Felicia, 5 x octavias, 1 x yeti, another octavia)  then a Nissan Leaf, Renault Zoe and finally a Tesla model 3. The Enyaq is the best of the lot. 

 

I have o

[domhnall]

On 08/01/2024 at 14:17, Luckypants said:

I have an ID.4 rather than an Enyaq but they are the same car underneath. I'm happy with mine and has lived up to expectations. As long as you have the latest software update installed if buying used. You will probably find an MEB based car thirsty after an E-Niro, over 4 miles per kWh is the exception rather than the rule.

 

 

I've been averaging 4.1 or 4.2 most days on my commute the last couple of weeks. Heating on, heated seats on, heated steering wheel on.