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VCDS DSG Adaptation - Safe vs Not Safe

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I'd like to do a re-adaption of my transmission and so far have unsuccessfully run IDE-02903 Basic Settings of Transmission, ignition on, engine off.  It starts off ok ( a few clunks and bangs heard as the transmission resets ) but after about a minute or so it will come back with a malfunction error message and doesn't finish the operation. 

 

Thereafter I've run IDE-02906, Reset Clutch Data, IDE-02908 Clutch Movement Pressure & IDE-02909 Double Clutch Fast Adaptation successfully ( they take less than 1 sec each to complete )

 

I've gone no further with this as I'm mindful of the fact that some operations in 'Basic Settings' can cause big problems if carried out incorrectly or out of sequence, could anyone advise which of the below could be deemed to be Safe to carry out, ie not going to 'brick' the transmission.

 

My DQ200 clutches are still slow to engage during gear changes with revs rising 500 - 2000 rpm when shifting, and the recent injection of £2.5k has achieved absolutely now't. 

 

 

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No idea but maybe @Crasher or @ApertureS can assist.   What is the story about with £2,500.  Has someone replaced the clutches or the MCU?

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4 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

What is the story about with £2,500.  Has someone replaced the clutches or the MCU?

 

Yes, clutch pack, flywheel, cam belt, water pump, mechatronic oil change, transmission oil change, engine oil & filters plus bottom crank seal.

Also the DSG software has recently been upgraded from OCW 300 048 N to OCW 300 042 F

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On 03/05/2024 at 18:27, Gammyleg said:

 

Yes, clutch pack, flywheel, cam belt, water pump, mechatronic oil change, transmission oil change, engine oil & filters plus bottom crank seal.

Also the DSG software has recently been upgraded from OCW 300 048 N to OCW 300 042 F

Who carried out the work?

if the garage has done the clutch packs and software update. They NEED to carry out the static adaptions and ideally the dynamic ones…

 

also as it’s a dry clutch gearbox, did they correctly shim the clutches with the correct tools?

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I have struggled to get VCDS to dial in the clearances and had to use ODIS but the function has reportedly been upgraded.

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On 05/05/2024 at 18:10, ApertureS said:

Who carried out the work?

My usual indy. Time-served VW tech who has done plenty of DSGs in the past I'm led to believe 

 

On 05/05/2024 at 18:10, ApertureS said:

They NEED to carry out the static adaptions and ideally the dynamic ones…

I'd like to think this was done but I'll inquire when I next speak to him. He admits to not being a guru with a VCDS but he seems to know his way around the essentials. Probably why he's never offered to do a deep-dive into the system.

The software update was done by Skoda when I took the car in to get the Drive Mode function fixed. They had two attempts and I'd booked a third visit before discovering that they'd actually fixed the issue but they hadn't actually realised it. Duh!!

 

 

On 05/05/2024 at 18:10, ApertureS said:

also as it’s a dry clutch gearbox, did they correctly shim the clutches with the correct tools?

Again I'll ask. I've watched stacks of youtube videos learning the process so I can fully appreciate the importance of shimming & tolerances but It's a job I'd happily do myself if I had facilities. With the right tools it's not exactly complicated.

 

The slow/lazy clutch engagement during gear changes with associated increase in revs, anything from 100 - 1500rpm on a bad day, and has been going on since I got the car 4 years ago. I bought the VCDS not long after to hopefully help diagnose the problem, which is why I'm keen to know what I can safely do and what I should avoid.

 

The new clutch pack, flywheel etc was a attempt to fix it but it's done absolutely nothing. If anything it's worse now and can happen with any shift from 1 - 5. 6 to 7 is usually good and snappy. Prior to the software and clutch change it was usually only even to odd changes up to 5th.

 

I've had a few re-adaptations done over the years and a couple of 'autobodge' specialists have a look and shrug their shoulders with disinterest saying "it's not as bad as a BMW box"

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