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Quick question on stock tyres for Yeti TDI2.0 Elegance 4x4.

I understand the default factory size is 225/50 R17 94W. 

 

I'm trying to get a set of All Season tyres - Michelin Cross Climates2 per the factory size, but struggling to get stock.

However have been advise that stock is available for the same type but in 225/50 R17 98V. 

I assume the rating must be 94W or higher.

Although its a higher load rating 98 vs 94. But its lower speed rating which causes issue? I assume the type of tyre (All Season) does not have any bearing on what the ratings can be.

I assume technically on paper the 98V is a no, especially from a insurance point of view? 

 

Can someone advise?

 

I would normally say 'they're fine' but the way insurers are these days on claims, I'd phone them and get a note on your file. Kwik fit show both W and Y rating in stock?

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Should had said, i've been looking at getting these from Costco. They offer the best prices on Michelins that many others can't match.

However, issues with stock..

Well, "you pays your money and makes your choice".

 

As a backup, we've had Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons as well as (current) Cross Climate 2s on our Yetis.

I don't think there's very much difference at all between them, both good.

8 hours ago, Hyeung said:

Quick question on stock tyres for Yeti TDI2.0 Elegance 4x4.

I understand the default factory size is 225/50 R17 94W. 

 

I'm trying to get a set of All Season tyres - Michelin Cross Climates2 per the factory size, but struggling to get stock.

However have been advise that stock is available for the same type but in 225/50 R17 98V. 

I assume the rating must be 94W or higher.

Although its a higher load rating 98 vs 94. But its lower speed rating which causes issue? I assume the type of tyre (All Season) does not have any bearing on what the ratings can be.

I assume technically on paper the 98V is a no, especially from a insurance point of view? 

 

Can someone advise?

 

 

In the May 2017 Yeti owner's manual (English version) it says the following on page 152...

 

All-year or "winter tyres (marked with M+S and a peak/snowflake symbol of a lower speed category than listed in the vehicle's technical documentation can be used provided that the maximum permissible speed for these tyres is not exceeded even if the maximum possible speed of the vehicle is higher.

 

There are no minimum speed rating requirement for winter rated car tyres which include all season tyres that have the 3PMSF symbol (all the good brands of all season tyres have the 3PMSF symbol).

 

There's plenty of all season tyres in size 225/50R17 with a V (240km/h/150mph) speed rating, which is twice what you actually need on UK roads.

 

Bear in mind, no Yeti has a top speed of over 130mph/210km/h so even if you fitted H speed rated tyres with the 3PMSF symbol (ie. winter rated tyres) you wouldn't need to drive at a reduced top speed even on the German autobahn.

 

Explanation of why winter rated tyres can have a lower speed rating than summer tyres

Some winter tyres might only be available in a T (118mph/190km/h) speed rating or lower, such as nordic winter tyres. Nordic winter tyres are made for very cold temperatures such as minus 20 degrees Centigrade that you might experience in countries such as Finland, Sweden, Norway, etc. These nordic winter tyres are made of very soft rubber so that they still give good grip at very low temperatures. If a nordic winter tyre had to be made to cope with driving at very high speed such as over 150mph (240km/h) it wouldn't actually be a nordic winter tyre because this very soft rubber would overheat at such a high speed. Hence, why winter rated tyres can be speed rated lower than the summer tyres that are shown in the car's documentation such as the CoC (Certificate of Conformity).

 

The Michelin CrossClimate 2 225/50R17 94W is available...as shown in the link below.

 

Michelin CrossClimate 2 225/50R17 94W (Euro label C B 71dB)

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rshop/tyre/Michelin/CrossClimate-2/225-50-R17-94W/R-440179

 

Skoda owner's manuals can be downloaded from skoda.co.uk

https://www.skoda.co.uk/apps/manuals/Models

 

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