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Replace diesel Yeti with 1.2 Tsi - or different car entirely?

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I've had a really bad experience with my much loved 8 year old 2.0l Yeti. 4 different garages and various diagnoses/fixes later, it seems to be the DPF, and has cost me over £2k with no confidence that it won't happen again. Only now I understand that to do regens I need to be in a low gear at motorway speeds, to get that min 2500 revs... and I'm afraid of further problems, so I think I should say goodbye to the diesel. I would love another Yeti, but is that crazy...? I'd need to spend c £14k to get a low mileage 2016/17 petrol model, and the mechanic at most recent garage I've used says "the chains go" - although I think he must mean pre 2015 models only? I am comparing with Suzuki Vitara and VW T-Cross , could get much younger models of those for similar budget - but my heart still hankers after another Yeti! Nothing else ticks all the boxes of size/space/comfort... anyone got any recommendations? And would I notice very much worse fuel efficiency with a petrol Yeti compared with the diesel?  I have been doing a lot of miles and was delighted with the efficiency - but that's been totally wiped out by the garage bills in the past 4 months.

Not specifically Yeti-related, but is there a button to kick off manual DPF regeneration?

 

Our 2021 Landcruiser recently went in for a fix because more or less all the dashboard lights were on, including bizarre stuff like pre-collision warning system unavailable. The diagnosis? Blocked DPF. Press the button down near the footwell, turn a blind eye to the cloud of carp coming out the back, and hey-presto.

 

In our case the DPF never got a chance to really clear itself because most of our driving is at slower speeds and the Landcruiser has very tall gears. Occasionally I'd see "DPF regeneration in progress" on the dash display and thought that's that, it's taking care of itself. Apparently not. Live & learn ...

35 minutes ago, Edinyeti said:

Nothing else ticks all the boxes of size/space/comfort... anyone got any recommendations?

 

I forgot to add: my next car will be a 4x4 Dacia Duster. With sleep pack.

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4 minutes ago, muppix said:

 

I forgot to add: my next car will be a 4x4 Dacia Duster. With sleep pack.

I like them but decided too long for me!

 

I had a 1.4 petrol as I didn't want another diesel, (partly due to all the problems you mention). Problem is the "newer" 1.4's are all L&K spec (and 4wd), so you run the risk of the dreaded sunroof leak, which would probably cost more to repair than your DPF!...(assume you get a leak). However there are some older 1.4 models on Autotrader, and the 1.4 is a nice engine that gives reasonable performance and economy, (uese to get 40+mpg out of mine). So that is always and option if you must have another Yeti?? Although I have heard good reviews regarding the 1.2's...I almost got one, but decided they were getting a bit "old" at the time as the last models built will now be almost 8 years old...( after much (much), looking I ended up getting a Kia Niro....)

 

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22 minutes ago, muppix said:

Not specifically Yeti-related, but is there a button to kick off manual DPF regeneration?

 

Our 2021 Landcruiser recently went in for a fix because more or less all the dashboard lights were on, including bizarre stuff like pre-collision warning system unavailable. The diagnosis? Blocked DPF. Press the button down near the footwell, turn a blind eye to the cloud of carp coming out the back, and hey-presto.

 

In our case the DPF never got a chance to really clear itself because most of our driving is at slower speeds and the Landcruiser has very tall gears. Occasionally I'd see "DPF regeneration in progress" on the dash display and thought that's that, it's taking care of itself. Apparently not. Live & learn ...

If only! well if there is, I'm totally unaware of it. I do lots of commuting for months on end including daily motorway trips so thought a diesel would be the best option but the def will only clear if the revs are really high so all the time I'd been believing it would clear itself it appears I'm wrong! Never once had the DPF warning light come on, so how could I know it was a problem...☹️

'Chain problems' apply to 105bhp Yetis, which are generally pre-2015 models. Later Yetis (110bhp) have cam belts.

 

I bagged one of the last Yetis before production ceased with the intention of changing it for something else when the 5 year warranty ran out. But at 5 years I could find no other car that ticked as many of my boxes, so I hung on to it for another year. Same at 6 years. Same again at 7 years. And I'm fairly certain it will be the same again at 8 years.

 

There are still a few nice, low mileage Yetis on the market but as you have discovered, the prices are high.

Once your DPF has been replaced, and presumably 3 of the 4 garages checked the EGR valve, then your car should last for ages unless it has already done something like 150,000 miles ?

 

So, some cheap (!) Ideas to try for you. I have always used Miller's Oil diesel additives  in all the diesels I've owned / leased. Someone will come on here and say it's snake oil, but I've never had a DPF issue on the 30 of the 50 diesels I've owned that had one, so I disagree...

 

I would recommend their Diesel Particulate Filter Cleaner & Regenerator (lowers temp for regen).Also, once a month if you have a half hour drive planned, leave the gearbox in a lower gear (or S rather than D in DSG).

 

it you are a 'typical' Yeti driver, the 1.2 gives 42/44 mpg overall (I agree what most people say, as my 1.2s did that also). My other half averaged 58.3 on a 200 mile motorway drive last week in our TDI 4x4 DSG, but its normally about 50.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You have owned and presumably driven 30 EU5 and later diesel engined vehicles?

 

How often do you change your cars?

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106 cars in total. Yes, but you will forgive me if it's only 28 or 29 ...?

 

My last pre-EU5 diesel was a 2006 A6 Allroad 3.0 TDi which had 165,000m when I traded it in. New injectors (2 getting tired) but EGR valve and cooler were still fine.

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2 hours ago, Prezafab said:

Once your DPF has been replaced, and presumably 3 of the 4 garages checked the EGR valve, then your car should last for ages unless it has already done something like 150,000 miles ?

 

So, some cheap (!) Ideas to try for you. I have always used Miller's Oil diesel additives  in all the diesels I've owned / leased. Someone will come on here and say it's snake oil, but I've never had a DPF issue on the 30 of the 50 diesels I've owned that had one, so I disagree...

 

I would recommend their Diesel Particulate Filter Cleaner & Regenerator (lowers temp for regen).Also, once a month if you have a half hour drive planned, leave the gearbox in a lower gear (or S rather than D in DSG).

 

it you are a 'typical' Yeti driver, the 1.2 gives 42/44 mpg overall (I agree what most people say, as my 1.2s did that also). My other half averaged 58.3 on a 200 mile motorway drive last week in our TDI 4x4 DSG, but its normally about 50.

 

 

 

 

 

 

My DPF hasn't actually been replaced - but the EGR has, twice! As I say it's been an expensive journey. That's just the short version of events. DPF Doctor was added to clear the DPF as well as having a forced regen. A new DPF sounded like a very expensive fix...the car has done almost 100k. Thanks, I have heard of these additives just recently and will definitely look into that. Someone recommended Archoil - same sort of idea(?). As I was wondering if I'd done the damage by using almost entirely supermarket fuel. That seems to be a subject fraught with disagreement!

8 hours ago, Robjon said:

'Chain problems' apply to 105bhp Yetis, which are generally pre-2015 models. Later Yetis (110bhp) have cam belts.

 

I bagged one of the last Yetis before production ceased with the intention of changing it for something else when the 5 year warranty ran out. But at 5 years I could find no other car that ticked as many of my boxes, so I hung on to it for another year. Same at 6 years. Same again at 7 years. And I'm fairly certain it will be the same again at 8 years.

 

There are still a few nice, low mileage Yetis on the market but as you have discovered, the prices are high.

Prices for used Yeti's are high, I part exchanged my 2017 Yeti and non Skoda dealer was happy to offer over £11k - and I still got a decent discount matching Carwow off the price of new car.

@Edinyeti  a Dacia Duster in only 5" longer than a Yeti. 

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9 hours ago, Ootohere said:

@Edinyeti  a Dacia Duster in only 5" longer than a Yeti. 

I've added it to my spreadsheet! But every inch counts sometimes...I got the last space on a Calmac ferry by the Yeti being smaller than a Mini Countryman once!

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Have you looked at Skoda Kamiq, similar in size to Yeti, obviously not as high, but slightly more ground clearance, and boot very slightly smaller. 
MPG wise 40 mpg locally and 55 on a run with my not run in yet 1.5 petrol.

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6 minutes ago, Kenny R said:

Have you looked at Skoda Kamiq, similar in size to Yeti, obviously not as high, but slightly more ground clearance, and boot very slightly smaller. 
MPG wise 40 mpg locally and 55 on a run with my not run in yet 1.5 petrol.

I had it on my spreadsheet, but it's crossed out as I thought driving position too low, and that's one of my musts. Not that I've actually sat in one 🤔

1 hour ago, Edinyeti said:

I've added it to my spreadsheet! But every inch counts sometimes...I got the last space on a Calmac ferry by the Yeti being smaller than a Mini Countryman once!

Do they still sell the Fiat Panda 4x4...😁

12 hours ago, Ootohere said:

@Edinyeti  a Dacia Duster in only 5" longer than a Yeti. 

 

Those 5" would be the difference between ooh! and aah! when fitting inside my garage.

They do not build Fiat Panda 4x4,s, anymore. 

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18 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

They do not build Fiat Panda 4x4,s, anymore. 

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Wahayy, now you're talking! 😅 Could definitely tick most of my boxes. Still a Fiat though...🙄

Well a car with Fiat badges but a Stellantis group vehicle like Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Citroen, DS, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, Opel, Peugeot, Ram Trucks and Vauxhall.

 

PS.

I just followed a new registration Citroen 3 Aircross, the size surprised me, never looked close at one or seen inside.

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7 hours ago, Ootohere said:

 

I just followed a new registration Citroen 3 Aircross, the size surprised me, never looked close at one or seen inside.

Had one as a hire car abroad last year. Rode really well, not that quick but fine for the job once up to speed, felt fairly solid. Interior roomy, but so-so (again, fine for the market).

@Prezafab Do you know if it was a 110 or 130ps engine?

... probably the lower powered one as hire cars often are in Spain. Decent transport on bumpy roads and cruising at speed. 

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