My son has a 2017 1.0 110ps Monte Carlo and is desperate to remap it.  I've had experience of remapping in the past with mixed outcomes - on both occasions it delivered the claimed increase in engine output but on one of the 2 occasions it overwhelmed the clutch.   

 

Has anybody on here remapped a 1.0 110ps Fabia and is so has the standard clutch coped. (if not is there an uprated clutch option for the car). The map he is looking at is not extreme and will add 22bhp and 27lb/ft of torque

 

Any insight would be really appreciated

Although my experience is with the 1.2 tsi 4cyl, it may be worth something.. 

 

I had mine mapped from 90 to 130ps and the difference was noticeable. 

No problems with reliability for nearly 30k miles since the remap was done. 

 

However, despite the map being "95 RON safe", while running on some supermarket fuels it now stutters occasionally at WOT. So my only option is to stick to the branded stations or use super unleaded if available. 

 

Also worth checking the increase in insurance with the map declared, my first year was £1 extra. Every year since has been typically £200 above a standard quote. 

 

My recommendation is to keep the car standard and put the money towards his next purchase as the map will only delay it for a short time. 

 

Hope this helps 

1 hour ago, alep said:

My recommendation is to keep the car standard and put the money towards his next purchase as the map will only delay it for a short time. 

I think this is very good advice and it comes from someone with a 40+% increase in PS twice as much as your son is proposing.

 

What does your son want to achieve, what did you want to achieve when you had yours done, was it just ego figures, where the needle is on gauges, or keeping up or in with the boys and girls, or more, will it ever be enough, was it ever enough.  It's his life but you as his father obviously want to help.  Note the comment about insurance costs.

 

To me already the recommended servicing and maintenance is already thin in some areas for cars in standard form, with the 20% increase probably not a lot more is needed than at standard but more is needed at standard.  A VW 4-pot sounds rough to me and the 3-pot (that VW don't have much history with AFAIK) we had as a loan car for a few weeks sounded a bit rougher still, that was a standard 110.

 

There are plenty of posts and threads in the Mk3 forum and others on mapping and the results of mapping plus there's the 'Fabia Projects' forum.

 

"Go faster" stripes just aren't good enough anymore.  😆

Edited 29 November, 20241 yr by nta16
typo

I don't have a 1.0 tsi so I'm not that familiar with them but I've been reading through an old topic about modifying mk3s and when the 1.0 tsi was released there was a bit of talk around it. One of the commenters there remapped their 1.0 and had no bother after 20k miles, and it's been out long enough that there should be good, reliable options.

 

JBS Tuning built an Up! gti, which has the same 1.0 tsi as the fabia, and were able to get a good bit of power out of it. You might need to give them a ring but they should be able to help you.

 

Another option is a tuning box, like the one the Tdi-tuning does. These are generic though and wouldn't be as good as a tune done with a rolling road, which would be specific to your son's car.

 

I was going to comment on the insurance but it looks like you've already lowered the car so the premium is probably already higher but a power increase will probably hurt more than the lowering springs.

 

Whatever you go with though will probably get you around 130-140 bhp without other mods. The standard clutch should be able to handle it. It's rated to 200Nm but should be able to handle the extra torque, but if you're worried some fabias (including my 1.4 tdi) came with clutches rated for 250Nm, so you could try to swap it if it fits.

 

P.S.- Maybe wait till after the winter to remap the car. It's probably not the best time to test the extra power, and it'll be hard to resist flooring it every now and then at first, so maybe wait till the black ice is off of the roads.

Hi.

If anyone ever needs any help with insurance for a remap, chip or tuning box then please feel free to drop me a line.

Regards,

Dan.

@Napastar if you're still with this, I forgot the following Briskoda forums that you could look at and/or ask on.

 

Fabia Projects - https://www.briskoda.net/forums/forum/205-fabia-projects/

 

Performance & Tuning Upgrades - https://www.briskoda.net/forums/forum/212-performance-tuning-upgrades/

 

Edited 30 November, 20241 yr by nta16
ETA: second link

Many thanks to all above for taking the time to reply - all good advice.

 

From the point of view of insurance I've got that covered as spent a career in motor claims insurance heading up the claims department for a large UK motor insurer so I've made sure he's declared and will continue to declare modifications. I've liked and owned relatively fast cars all my life and so has my wife so I guess its in the genes and its a case of trying to rein in my 21year old. The advice to save the money and put towards the next car is often the advice I've given others, but with 4 years NCD he's getting itchy feet and the logic of semi supporting his remap intentions is that it will hopefully delay his desire for a much faster car for a little while longer until he has a few more years driving experience.  I'm painfully aware of the financial and sometimes tragic consequences of young inexperienced drivers (both genders) driving around in Golf R's thanks to cheap lease deals and living rent free with parents. 

 

I was predominantly interested in gearbox/clutch reliability and I'm a little concerned by NavyW's post that the gearbox is only rated tp 200nm as his standard car has 200nm.

 

I'm now going to spend some time reading the info on the links kindly provided nta and ootohere

 

Perhaps he's too young for this and you and your wife's car history might not help.  A much older and  basic "slower" car can be much more fun to drive, you don't need to drive them really fast to get any enjoyment out of them, modern cars that put the driver as a parttime-passenger-behind-the-steering-wheel with all their electronic "aids" and "assists" make the car so remote from the actually driving (particularly with infotainment and other distractions).  Doesn't matter about the badge or numbers on dials and paper, bhp, hp, PS, Nm, lb-ft, they're all quite boring at legal road speeds because they can do so much more.  A less capable car is more rewarding to coax into performance and this will be at lower and legal speeds at least.  Of course for this type of car, or any other, as you probably well know the best tuning aid is further driver training and it's transferable to future cars.  You may well have already thought about or got him on further driver training.

 

In the end the only relatively safe space for to use of soup'd-up cars is a racetrack and there, as on the roads, it's soon learnt that no matter what badge, power and speed you have you could sometimes do with more and much more but often you can't fully use what you've already got (same as on the roads to).  A power guage may teach just how very little power is often needed and used but this could also encourage turning it up to 11 if ego or excitement figures are required.

 

At 21 he might be better with a car that needs more servicing, maintenance, repairs and attention (that he carry's out with himself with his own earnings) then he can learn about the car and it's performance and safety and appreciate things more.

 

As for the clutch I have no idea but it would last longer if the teachings of further driver training are applied.

 

Good luck.

 

ETA: just thought, could you get him into polishing and cosmetics for the car then he'll probably not want to drive it too much let alone too fast, especially at show or concours level. - Styling and Car Care - https://www.briskoda.net/forums/forum/8-styling-and-car-care/