Afternoon folks, wondering if anyone can solve an apparent debate regards my 2017 vrs tsi.

Some garages are saying it will definitely need timing chain doin at 100k at a huge cost!

Other garages i spoke to have said its not needed unless theres an issue?

Can somebody please confirm which is correct as i would rather not fork out 2k for no reason.

Thanks all.

4 hours ago, KPMONKEY said:

need timing chain doin at 100k

Pretty sure it's a timing belt, so I'd be finding a new more competent garage.

4 hours ago, KPMONKEY said:

Other garages i spoke to have said its not needed unless theres an issue?

Id go to these guys.

I understand that the interval is more like

Inspection at 240,000km

Inspection every 30K thereafter

Replace at 290K or 15 yrs of you want (185k miles)

I did mineat 300,000km.

Seemed fine before that (I inspect it a few times, no cracks or frays) but the idlers are probably the weak point and you can't really check them

11 hours ago, BlueWagon said:

Pretty sure it's a timing belt, so I'd be finding a new more competent garage.

VRS TSI is a chain, VRS TDI is a belt.

£2,000 to change the Chain would be something, but since there is not a chain and tensioners where or who are quoting £2,000 for a Belt & Tensioner & no Water Pump replaced?

Edited 8 January8 Jan by Evolution13

16 hours ago, KPMONKEY said:

Afternoon folks, wondering if anyone can solve an apparent debate regards my 2017 vrs tsi.

58 minutes ago, PetrolDave said:

VRS TSI is a chain, VRS TDI is a belt.

36 minutes ago, Evolution13 said:

£2,000 to change the Chain would be something, but since there is not a chain and tensioners where or who are quoting £2,000 for a Belt & Tensioner & no Water Pump replaced?

@Evolution13 Since KPMONKEY has a TSI there is a chain (all EA888 1.8 & 2.0 TSIs have a timing chain) so I'm puzzled why you say there isn't a chain?

@PetrolDave Sorry brain fart / my lack of knowledge. Why are they suggesting replacing the chain? & why £2,000 ?

56 minutes ago, Evolution13 said:

@PetrolDave Sorry brain fart / my lack of knowledge. Why are they suggesting replacing the chain? & why £2,000 ?

Possibly because earlier EA888 engines had issues with stretching timing chains and failing chain tensioners - at 2017, OP should have a EA888/3 engine and AFAIK, these particular issues were sorted by then.

Lots of repeated mis understanding here. All ea888 are chain. Ea888 gen 3 no exception.

The real debate is to replace, preventitively or not. That is debated over past forums, you tube videos many times in past.

I can speak from some personal experience as I have a golf r on 102k miles. Same base ea888 gen 3 engine design.

Without taking the upper timing cover off and taking measurements, there are a few indicators you can look at.

1. Lower timing cover inspection hole, remove count ratchet extensions on tensioner.

2. Live data, intake and exhaust timing correction readings.

The cost will differ by garage. The job is probably carded at 5.5 hours.

It wouldn't surprise me the parts are now close to £700. On a gen 2, in 2016 they were about £350....

So £2k is at the top end maybe above the top end pricing.... Unless theyre doing other stuff and more than the main timing chain, guides and tensioner, gaskets and lower cover replacement.....

As a base reference with similar mileage, my correlation measurements are in spec about 3degrees from memory, the ratchet is at 4 extensions showing I think.

Answer, there is stretch but it is still serviceable but a replacement not a bad idea....

Ill see if I can find my photo of the extensions.. and post.

Edit photos added

Second edit. Live data.

The bottom two are correlation adjustment. General rule of thumb 5 replace, 4 caution, 3 and under good.

Edited 9 January9 Jan by TheClient