This could go on for ever. 3 years eh? You have seen and done it all. Scrap and Quarry work? Thats not quite all trucks is it. Find me a decent looking scrap/quarry/tipper/bulker truck.

You are misleading the people on here in to thinking that remoulds are safe because you think they are used on all/the mojority of trucks. I put it to you that is utter nonsense.

I'm not claiming to have 'seen and done it all' I'm claiming to know more than just some opinion borne from ignorance.

Fair call it's not all trucks but there's a hell of a lot of scrap/quarry wagons and I'll bet they form the vast majority of artics out there because bagratters and depot vehicles are almost always non-tippers.

Incidentally the reason is not because they're all old sheds (I can show you many very well maintained, clean, new quarry vehicles not 40mins from you) it's because the nature of the work results in a lot of punctures and putting a brand spanking new tyre straight from Michelin every time you run over a bit of scrap/rubble is not cost effective (remoulds being cheaper, not repairable before I get dived on again!).

Point being, they're as safe as any other tyre or they wouldn't be legal. They might not offer the performance that some people want (for example for doing car park burnouts) but neither do budget tyres.

Manners cost nothing BTW - your post comes across as very rude.

Edit: Just checked my original post and I specified artics in it - didn't say 'every' HGV.

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Point being, they're as safe as any other tyre or they wouldn't be legal.

I have to disagree. I like to have a nice big safety margin. A remould would be closer to its limits than a new tyre at any given speed or circumstance. I dread to think of what could happen in an emergency situation.

Its like speed ratings, my car can only do 125mph, yet I still use a W rated tyre.

I had a bad experience years ago with a car I had just bought. Got within 2 miles

of home and thought a half shaft was about to let go. On closer inspection it was

a remould tire with a large section missing. Soon changed them all for new ones.

Manners cost nothing BTW - your post comes across as very rude.

Edit: Just checked my original post and I specified artics in it - didn't say 'every' HGV.

My apologies. Had a bad day that day, and took it out on you.

Still, I've never in 12 years of international truck driving come across any reputable firm using remoulds on a truck. I can see why tippers etc would though.

My apologies. Had a bad day that day, and took it out on you.

Ah, I forgive you fella!

My apologies. Had a bad day that day, and took it out on you.

Still, I've never in 12 years of international truck driving come across any reputable firm using remoulds on a truck. I can see why tippers etc would though.

I have, but then one of the biggest haulage firms in my home town are a quarrymasters, and run mostly new..5 year-old Scanias (a few older ones, driven by older drivers who've pretty much fallen in love with that specific truck, like they'd one "86" 6-legger for 15 years).

Colway tyres are reasonably good, I always thought the problem with remoulds was when you start pushing them on a high grip surface, ie tarmac, especially when cornering this can cause the tyre to eventually delaminate as many people here suggest. Personally i fit the best new tyres i can afford every time these with the brakes IMHO are not worth messing around with and olny the best will do for me.

I had remoulds on a car when travelling around Australia back in 2001. We are all lucky to be alive as one shredded when we were going round a bend doing 70mph. I'd never, ever, ever think of using them again (gambling with death for little really). Fine on a herse doing 2mph. This is my opinion on a real life experience.

/possible thread hijack

There is a question that no one seems to have asked here.

Where does the rubber go?

Think about it, how much rubber does each tyre loose over the course of it's life? 1kg? Say an average of four tyres per car per year and with their being at least 30 million cars on the UK roads thats 120 000 tons of rubber that just vanishes into thin air:eek: :eek: :eek:

Where does is go???????????:confused: :confused:

Where does is go???????????:confused: :confused:

I was wondering the very same thing when I was driving to work the other day.

Chris

Never, after my Dad's Cortina (recently purchased (1978ish) with one remould) started shedding tread over the M6 at < 60mph.

Where does is go???????????:confused: :confused:

Onto the road. It's one of the things that makes the road slippy when it rains after a long dry spell.

Onto the road. It's one of the things that makes the road slippy when it rains after a long dry spell.

Yeah, but 120,000 tons a year for years! It would be inches thick!

Yeah, but 120,000 tons a year for years! It would be inches thick!

Presumably it gets flushed away eventually by rain.

No, with only 4 points of contact on the road, I'd like to know I've got new fresh rubber supporting me and my family.

Whenever you fly away on holiday you will have remoulded tyres supporting 400 tonnes of 747 and your family. Aircraft tyres sometimes can be remoulded up to 6 times if the carcass is ok. Like most things aviation related, standards are higher than road vehicles, and I accept that aircraft tyres are different to car tyres in their useage (The stress on an aircraft tyre is pretty much in one direction), but to say that all remoulds are dangerous isn't true. There is a need and a use somewhere for them.

Definitely no:thumbdwn:

Decron, the Germans did some experiments, and apparently ~50% of the PC10s that are aledged to be a major cause of childhood asthma are "used tyre".

NO WAY

Part worn even less - you cannot tell if there has been damage to the tyre.

With new low and mid range brand tyres compartively much cheaper than remolds were in the 1970's and 80's what's the point.

That said, surely there is a better way to deal with old tyres.

no way would I use them, the way I drive:D

What a load of twaddle getting spoken about....

I used a good brand of retreads, Colway for about 7 years solid,

fitted to various Audi's throughout the ninety's

these performed without issue, true they don't last quite as long as SOME new tyres, but if you compare them to quite a few 'budget new' then they make more sense, as they last longer and grip better than these budget new...

for example my wife's N plate Mondeo ran on Federal budget tyres ( new ) these

had the grip of teflon and lasted 10K, the Colways that have replaced them are

rated as a H ( 130mph ) and have lasted 16K so far, with 3.5mm remaining...

and they grip the road well in all conditions... So for basically 1/2 the price of new budget you are getting a better product!

I agree some unknown remoulds dangerous, but that was years ago before all the legislation came in to test retreads to similar standards as new tyres.

The simple fact is most of the examples quoted on here are from years ago, not recently...

Plus the fact that airlines and HGV use them without issue this makes most perception on here quite frankly outdated!

Strange as it is with the concern over the enviroment that one source of renewable product is shunned based on 1970's or 80's poor quality....

Given that would you trust your life in a 1960's Mino without seatbelts and the crash protection of that era? Compare that to your 21st century Skoda with the crash protection thats here now, which would you prefer to drive down the M6 in rush hour?

Same goes for tyres of all types, and that includes re-treads......

cheers

Dazz

No thanks :thumbdwn:

Why take the risk ?

How much is a life worth..............

No thanks :thumbdwn:

Why take the risk ?

How much is a life worth..............

So don't take a flight in most aircraft cus these take off and land on retreads!!

a few hundred ton of 747 comming in with a cross wind, lands at an angle before straighting out....

Your choice...

What risk?

Out of date concern!

So don't take a flight in most aircraft cus these take off and land on retreads!!

a few hundred ton of 747 comming in with a cross wind, lands at an angle before straighting out....

Your choice...

What risk?

Out of date concern!

Correct, we don't take flights these days anyway

I don't think aircraft tyres are reused after 'incidents' - i.e. the aircraft companies are very stringent as to quality control.

This would be virtually non-existent on vehicle tyres - i.e. oh, yeah, hit the kerb at 50mph, tyre survived but I thought I'd get it changed anyway............