I've been looking for a 'fun' car for while and just spotted a Nissan Sunny GTi. Trouble is I can't find any decent info on them so I've hoping someone else will no a little bit about them...

Is it the same as a Pulsar GTI-R if not, what are the differences?:confused: It's a 2.0e if that makes any difference.

Anyone know what insurance group it might be?

there's a very good chance i'm wrong here, but isnt the gti a fwd 2.0 NA and the gti-r a 4wd turbo?

Sunny GTi is the non-turbo version.

Sunny GTi-R (uk car) and Pulsar GTi-R (import) are the turbo version.

Insurance group will be about 12-13 I'd imagine. The SR20DE engine is great, really strong takes to tuning quite well.

To be honest though I'd avoid the sunny, unless you can find a low mileage one with no rust. Best off getting an Almera GTi. Cheap as chips, much newer and better chance of getting a good one. Plus they are way nicer inside. The sunny is horrible where as the Almera has quite a few mod cons.

Both very good handling cars though

Try the bigger brother, 1997 onwards Primera GT. Great handling, decent performance, and gadgets such as sunroof, air-con, computer, etc. You can get them really cheap now and they have strong engines.

Try the bigger brother, 1997 onwards Primera GT. Great handling, decent performance, and gadgets such as sunroof, air-con, computer, etc. You can get them really cheap now and they have strong engines.

It's a bit big though. I'm looking for more of a hot hatch for my fun. Plus SWMBO will be driving it and she struggles to park a small car, god only knows how many dents and knocks she'd put in a primera!

Andy's right about the difference between the Pulsar/Sunny GTi and GTi-R. The first is an FWD hot hatch, and the second is turbo, inter-heater (Check location and flow direction through the "chargecooler" and you'll know why it gets that), 4WD rally homologation missile.

I'd agree that it's probably worth looking for an Almira GTi instead.

See your point about the size of the Primera Rob. I'd suggest you have a look at the Almera GTi's too. Under-rated IMO and you get a lot of car for the money. I've had one passenger ride out in one a fair few years ago, but remember it handling fairly well.

Worth a look and a test anyway, me thinks. What sort of money are you looking at?

Steve

I should have said, that I owned an Almera GTi for a fair bit.

Best car I've owned so far.. I dont own the vRS yet :P

Handling was great. Steering feel was perfect. Very under rated tho.

Good examples are coming up around the 1k mark, mint late ones for about 2k max.

The sunny GTi was a very nippy and underrated hot hatch - if you can find a decent one - snap it up, both the Almera and especially the Primera will feel sluggish in comparison.

Got to disagree with that. The engine power is virtually the same between the 3. Only difference is the Almera using the low port SR20 where as Sunny and Primera use the high port SR20.

Weight difference is not that different either. Maybe 1000kg for the sunny, almera is 1150 and primera a bit more again I'd imagine. Not a noticable difference IMO.

how can you compare a FWD NA 2.0 almera with an AWD 2.0T sunny :confused:

massivley different things!!

how can you compare a FWD NA 2.0 almera with an AWD 2.0T sunny :confused:

massivley different things!!

Not sure where you have got the 2.0 Turbo 4WD from?? We are talking about the GTi, not the GTi-R.

Worth a look and a test anyway, me thinks. What sort of money are you looking at?

Steve

I'm looking for something as cheap as possible, less than

Well, you've got an expn of the differences between GTi and GTi-R now!

A quick glance at the classifieds in an oldish Banzai on my desk quotes one GTi at £2_000, and 3 GTi-Rs at £4_500 to £6_000. all for 1990 to 1992 cars.

GTI-R is a good little beast, but a bit twitchy and not as good to drive as similar age Scoobies and Evo's running similar power, imvho

Chris

Got to disagree with that. The engine power is virtually the same between the 3. Only difference is the Almera using the low port SR20 where as Sunny and Primera use the high port SR20.

Weight difference is not that different either. Maybe 1000kg for the sunny, almera is 1150 and primera a bit more again I'd imagine. Not a noticable difference IMO.

Well running a cav turbo for many years I can say I came up against most cars on the roads between '93 and '04, the Almeras were easy, the Primeras (you couldn't even call it a performance car really) were just plain embarrassed, but I had to actually try against the odd Sunny (NOT Pulsar turbos or watever they were called). I seem to recall the magazine in gear figures bore this out at the time too.

All sunny's are fast, even 1.4LX's

Not sure where you have got the 2.0 Turbo 4WD from?? We are talking about the GTi, not the GTi-R.

from post one, you know the bloke who started the thread!!

what is it with people not reading the bloody forums they are posting in these days!!!