JUST GOT A MAGIC BLACK VRS TFSI AFTER OWNING A 2004 A3 TDI AND LOVE IT.

ONLY PROBLEM IS I CAN NOTICE THE PAINT UNDER THE RECENT BURST OF SUN SEEMS TO HAVE LOTS OF SWIRL MARKS IN IT. ANYONE ELSE HAD THIS PROBLEM WITH THIS COLOUR AN IF SO WHAT WILL GET RID OF THEM.

CHEERS :confused:

Stop shouting!

Can not see the problem in your pic. But if you have bad markings on your paintwork, it may need a PC to correct it

Quick acronym lesson - PC = Porter Cable, a well famed polishing machine usually imported from America.

Looking down the left side of your keyboard you ought to see one marked Caps Lock, try pressing it and see what happens. :P

I'm not sure how familier you are with internet forums but typing in all capitals in considered to be shouting and often assumed as being a tad rude.

My first bit of advise would be to keep your car well away from car washes, my second would be to take a look in the car care secion where you'll find plenty of tips on, well on car care really

Mine is less than 2 weeks old and the swirls are deffo visible in the sunlight - just one of the drawbacks of having the best colour car:P

I've also got a horrid stone chip on my bonnet already - thought it was bird **** at first as it's gone right through the paint to the white base.:(

i had them in mine, plenty washes and polishes by hand with autoglymm sorted most of mine out

Thought I had a Stone chip on my wing but it turned out to be a patch of Selotape.

How the hell did that get there? Thanks to Alastair for spotting it

Thanks for the advice stu will bear that in mind, just used to writing in capitals so type in it too. Also new to all this.

Think i am gonna let some professionals sort out the swirl marks then take care of paint afterwards. Regular washes, wax and polishing Avoiding hand car washes (think this is the cause of the problem).

Ive also got same type of stonechip to my bonnet. Just one on its own right in the middle right down to the base coat. A friend of mine owns octy vrs tdi in yellow which suffered from the same problem. when he got it back from local dealership with freshley painted bonnet it was more green than yellow. Three attempts were made until the right colour was achieved.

Black is the worst colour to show up swirls...but it does look damn nice clean! Esp with the shiny silver wheels!

Have you owned the car from new? If not, how old was it when you bought it? (just to give us an idea of how bad the swirls might be)

A close up of an affected area would also be helpful. You can usually get near complete correction with the right combination of polishing pad, polish and either a random orbital polisher (like a PC) or a more pro-bodyshop type rotary polisher.

With a bit of the right type of attention, you'll visibly reduce those swirls and get the gold fleck popping again

Steve

Oh, and welcome to the site :wave:

Hi all. Havnt owned the car since new. I bought the car two months ago (6000miles on the clock) and it was first registered in Jan 2006. The swirl marks are not that visible unless the sun is shining.Will try and get some pics uploaded.

I have a black magic metallic Leon and its a pig to keep clean mate. The paint shows every mark, every stone chip, every last spec of dirt. Looks the business when clean but that take 3 hours of hard labour and it lasts 2 days if you're lucky!

I got chipsaway out on mine a year ago (its Oct 04 car) having had it from new and they did a good job of removing scratches and colouring in the stonechips for about

I sort of wish I hadn't opted for black magic now but it's a little too late as the car will hopefully arrive next week. I would never take any car to a hand car wash as you wouldn't believe the scratches on my brothers Astra SRI after he took it to one.

Hand carwashes use one dip in the dirty bucket for the entire side of your car and they often start from the bottom up! Clean water, top down. Its the only way.

I was always told to wash from the top in horizontal strips and slowly work down the car, otherwise youre fighting a never ending battle to keep it clean when washing.

Ive also noticed today that someone has keyed part of the car :-( have used resin etc on it to try and take most of it out, looks much better but still noticable. any ideas anyone to try and remove it or at least make it very unnoticable?

if its gone through to the white basecoat then chipsaway (or similar). They got some scrathes off my Leon when my 3 year old (2 at the time) decided to give it "Daddy, I'm drawing patterns" on the car with a stone. Wing, bonnet and door. If a jobs worth doing! It looked a right mess but they got it out with no paint needed -

Try some Meguiar's Scratch-X.

If that doesn't work, call in someone with a PorterCable or rotary polisher. As said, if it's not gone through the clearcoat and paint it should be do-able.

cheers, ill try and get a pic of it later, it doesnt look to bad today since i had a play with it yesterday, certainly better than before hand but still not gone.

Black Magic paintwork is an utter swine!

Firstly, it is not unknown for a brand new car to have swirls (especially noticable on black!) Depends how the car was washed when it was prepared before delivery. To keep swirls down to a minimum, when you hand wash, use two buckets: one to rinse with clean water between the washing of individual panels and one for the soapy water you wash with. Try to wash in horisontal lines and avoid a circular motion. Also never use a sponge, they trap small bits of debris that cause swirls.....use a sheepskin mit, rinsing in your bucket after panels.

Recently I have been looking at lots of cars in our car park and any I have passed for sale second hand for swirls. Everyone seems to have them....but they are easier to spot on a black car when you look at the right angle in sunlight.

Anyway, I didn't have too many swirls on my vRS......I had 'holograms' caused by the use of electric polishers (badly). Although Mitchels Skoda catogorically deny they use them on new cars the marks got there somehow before I took delivery.

To be fair, they have removed them BUT this removal has NOTICEABLY faded the paint on the passenger side of the car!!! I am just considering how to sort this out myself.

There are loads of products that will help you sort swirls out or improve them greatly. Check out some of the car detailing sites on the intermonkey.

Moral: Inspect the paint work on a brand new car as you would on a used car, preferably in the right ligh and when it isn't raining.....take nothing forgranted.

M

I know black's going to be one of the more difficult colours to keep clean, and it will show defects/swirls/stonechips more noticeably. I suppose that's not rocket science, as there's more contrast available, especially with stonechips. Stonechips, well they're pretty much unavoidable so I guess we have to live with those, but defects and swirls....

This is the second Fabia in Black Magic I've owned and think it's all down to paintwork preparation, and then care from then on. I think you'd find that a detail with a PorterCable/rotary, coupled with a choice selection of pad and polish, finished with sealant and a couple of coats of wax, owners would find it stays cleaner for longer, defects and swirls have been noticeably reduced if not removed, and that it's easier and quicker to wash afterwards.

I know often people don't have the time, and dare I say it, dedication to their cars, or don't want to spend money paying someone else to do it for them, but it really does make a difference

I may be preaching to the converted here, but that's my tuppence worth

Marwood - you look pretty local. If you'd like, I'm happy to run through with you what could be done with your car, and maybe look at this faded paintwork issue with you? PM if you wish.

Cheers,

Steve

Steve,

That's really good of you. Appreciate that

Will PM you.

Cheers,

M

iam on my second black magic octavia ,found that if you mix autoglyn wax

with turtle back colour wax it gives you a nice wax finish that lasts a little

longer than just washing and polishing

any particular ratio?

any particular ratio?

I'd be more tempted to stick with some higher quality waxes that turtlewax / autoglym etc.

You could try Swissvax Onyx

A bit pricier, but lasts a long time and does the job.

Failing that look on Detailing World for advice from proper valeting anoraks.

cheers, my car is slowly becoming scratched by kids rubbing past the car in the car park, small branches petruding out from the side of the road, grrrrrrrrrrrrr :-(