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Plus the VRS will outlast and be more reliable than any Ford, Vauxhall or French equivalant

I'm sure Scoobychris will be along soon to correct you on your thoughts about a Ford !!!

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do insurance shoot up when u mod it like most other cars

I'm sure Scoobychris will be along soon to correct you on your thoughts about a Ford !!!

Must resist..............;):rofl:

Chris

do insurance shoot up when u mod it like most other cars

Yes, and quite a few insurers have blacklisted it because of the number written off :(

Chris

do insurance shoot up when u mod it like most other cars

It would depend on your age, NCB, any points etc....... as well as the insurance company in question.

Some won't even touch cars with any mods at all.

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I was told today that the best way to spot a written off VRS is the curve on a join on the front bumper. according to him volkswagen only put this curve on original bumpers and all aftermarket bumpers are not fitted with them. any truth to this?

He also said to look at the side wings for any tell tale signs such as rough welds or misaglined panels. also said to look at the slam panel.

As for insurance.. the admiral/bell/elephant group do charge for mods but i dont think the charges are ludicrious.

you could always try Flux, HIC or Brentacre (who I think limit your car to a certain BHP before charging)

^^^^^ u can do that or if u ring the police on a non emergancy number, get in touch with the control room and they can do a PNC check for u to see whether its stolen, written off etc. thay cant tell u who owns it or where it is registered etc due to the data protection act but just do that, and do HPI checks and stuff!

That's what attracts me to the VRS you see! The fact that so much can be changed for relatively little money if you wanted to

I am deffo changing my car... no doubt about it.. you only live once I am extremely bored of it.

But if I bought an Astra 1.8, Polo GTi etc... some 1.8 petrol unit which people would expect you to get at 19... I can see myself getting bored of it after a year or so... throwing 1k at it and only seeing a measly 10-20bhp gain.

Plus the VRS will outlast and be more reliable than any Ford, Vauxhall or French equivalant

I had the astra 1.8 sxi before my furby vrs. The furby is 100% more fun.

Plus the VRS will outlast and be more reliable than any Ford, Vauxhall or French equivalant

Not after a 180bhp remap it won't.

Not after a 180bhp remap it won't.
True! I got my vRS at 19, then at 21 I got bored of it! My advice is, unless there is no way you're gonna be selling it, dont throw loads of money at it. If theres a slight chance you will be moving to better/faster things save the money for that. I didnt lol :o

That sounds familiar Dave! LOL

Steady on!

F*CK YOU?

Ahhh. Not the best of responses

You have just been trolled. If you react like that he will continue to wind you up with pointless, antagonistic posts going round in circles trying to prove a point than never exisited because he thinks he is right about something that wasn't an issue until he made it one, eventually ending in contradtion of himself and ultimate frustration of yourself as he won't finish it once he has got to the point he can't possibly be right.

There was no need to tell you that you are an idiot or you were unable to drive properly especially unprovoked from one post, but this is his speciallity and your reaction has dragged you down to his level. Your probably better than that so don't give him the satisfaction.

There is only one solution because he will just continue to annoy you now. Go to your control panel and on the left side there is a buddy/ignore list. Just add him to the ignore list and suddenly all his posts dissapear! I did and now I can't see anything he writes - Bliss :D :D :D :D

Don't worry, you won't miss anything useful :thumbup:

Welshy - Please try not to be deliberately antagonistic

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How does remapping a car make it less reliable? Does it put more stress on the internals, clutch etc?

How does remapping a car make it less reliable? Does it put more stress on the internals, clutch etc?

Yes. Everything is running close to or above its designed tolerances.....

Chris

Sorry about my language, it wont happen again sir. But my reply was JD powered :p and he caught me in a bit of a mood.

Consider my wrists slapped.

Decron - thanks :-)

Welshy - I enjoy my car on spirited drives along demanding roads every day. Its also my drive to work. My tyres wear is fast because i drive hard, not because i drive round spinning the wheels looking cool down spitty every friday night.

Sorry about my language, it wont happen again sir. But my reply was JD powered :p and he caught me in a bit of a mood.

Consider my wrists slapped.

Decron - thanks :-)

Welshy - I enjoy my car on spirited drives along demanding roads every day. Its also my drive to work. My tyres wear is fast because i drive hard, not because i drive round spinning the wheels looking cool down spitty every friday night.

Im sorry but if you use a set of tyres in a few months your type of driving is excpetionally agressive - Im guessing you have not got super soft tyres either (very quick wearing) which makes it even harder to wear them out.

i go through a pair of front tyres in 3 months what’s wrong with that!!! i don’t particularly drive like a willy!

jimbo, great post about spitty! i've seen the window lickers clowning around down there

Welshy - I enjoy my car on spirited drives along demanding roads every day. Its also my drive to work. My tyres wear is fast because i drive hard, not because i drive round spinning the wheels looking cool down spitty every friday night.

I wonder if it's down to a soft tyre compound? It sounds like we have the same driving style, and I've only managed to shave 2mm off my front tyres in 7k miles! I also apparently don't drive my diesel properly ;)

Chris

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What exactly IS the best way to drive a derv?

Don't get me wrong I enjoyed my test drive but was new to diesels so found myself just flooring it after 2.5k and being pushed back into the seat in a jerky motion lol

Is it more a smooth motion, with a constant but gentle pressure applied to the throttle?

Depends who you listen to ;)

The correct way to drive it is to keep the revs above 2k (if you're going to boot it) and take it to 4k rpm, which is the optimum change point for a stock map. Compared to old-skool diesels which didn't have the ability to rev, modern diesels can be driven just like petrols.....

Chris

What exactly IS the best way to drive a derv?

If you believe the manual or hug trees, then slowly. :snail:

One extreme, called 'going through front tyres in 6k' is not recommended for many reasons (license/life/clutch/looking a ***** at the lights because you left lots of rubber on the tarmac but left no-one behind :D :chqflag: )

The other extreme is just boooooooooring, and probably bad for your engine. I recommend mixing it up.

My favourite approach it to drive like a granny (OK a slow granny) for as long as I can resist, then when I open her up it feels like the first test drive all over again! I managed a week once - awesome.

In traffic, round town, rolling in a queue, I let it virtually idle 1200 - 1500, just tickle the gas and it's fine and happy.

if you want performance, agree with Chris, keep the revs over 2k, and as you described, don't jab the pedal, feed it in.

Andy.

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Cheers lads.

I'm off to look at a few VRS's soon... is there anyway to tell if its been in a frontal straight off?

I've been told to look for TIPEX-like lines in grooves which should line up with the wings and bumper...if they are absent it indicates the front bumper has been removed... and a small curve in one of the joins of the front bumper which indicates its the original one

I wonder if it's down to a soft tyre compound? It sounds like we have the same driving style, and I've only managed to shave 2mm off my front tyres in 7k miles! I also apparently don't drive my diesel properly ;)

Chris

He said he goes through a set of tyres ever few months, if you have only managed 2mm in 7k you have a further 3.4mm which given the same wear rate will last you until nearly 19,000 miles.

So if you call that spirited and you do those 7000 every 8 weeks i.e. 875 miles a week and diver it hard like that every time you drive it .... seems highly odd & frankly unlikely given congestion.

It must be very soft compound tyres if not may I suggest you get a set of hard wearing Michellin Exalto 2's on and they will last you 40k+ well worth it if your using a set every few months.

F1 cars use very soft compound tyres compared to Public Highway tyres and these have been able to last the entire race distance + qualifying + practice (before this years rule change) and that was with 850bhp & 600kg weight. The distance they would have travelled would be near on 500-600 miles. And these would have been driven full tilt all the time.

IIRC Autocar/AutoExpress when they ran an Evo7/8 they complained about tyres needing changing just under 10k, and they treat their cars very hard (track days, fully laiden, not their property so couldnt care less about the car, they are not paying for tyres so couldnt care less).

How come you wear out tyres quicker than them & the vast majority of other drivers?

Are we all driing incorrectly?

Most people do drive their car hard at times but lets be frank here if we are going to need 6 sets of tyres a year the running costs of it are stupidily high.

Maybe you need to have your tracking checked - this may be causing the high abnormal wear.

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